Vai talks EVH tone....must read

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I love the way he describes everything ! So spot on. Vai is a genius in his own right and a true virtuoso. To give Eddie that much respect speaks a great deal of his character. Thanks for posting !
 
I am with him when he says there was Hendrix, then Van Halen and everyone else just followed. IMO he be right.
 
I also learned that Steve Vai used to do guitar transcriptions for the trade rags to make extra cash back in the day and he tabbed out Eruption but never played it.
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Guitar Player magazine used to have these little thin plastic albums(one song if I remember right) inside the pages
that you ripped out and stuck em on your turntable.
Recall Vai had a demo with those Carvin X100 amps.
He made them sounds great (those amps blew Goat)
 
John4021 said:
I also learned that Steve Vai used to do guitar transcriptions for the trade rags to make extra cash back in the day and he tabbed out Eruption but never played it.
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Guitar Player magazine used to have these little thin plastic albums(one song if I remember right) inside the pages
that you ripped out and stuck em on your turntable.
Recall Vai had a demo with those Carvin X100 amps.
He made them sounds great (those amps blew Goat)
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Yep, they had The Attitude Song on one of those little records. Eric Johnson's Cliffs of Dover was another.
 
It’s interesting that he made the point later in the article about the chart positions of the music. Not only was Eddie an amazing guitarist, but he wrote some really great music that allowed his playing to reach the masses.
 
Markedman said:
I am with him when he says there was Hendrix, then Van Halen and everyone else just followed. IMO he be right.
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I don't know about that.. I think there is room for a few more personally.. yes you had Hendrix but you also had Page. His riff writing and ideas are on another level for their time. You had VH but then you also had the rise of the neoclassical shredder thanks to Uli and Malmsteen. Uli was first if you want to talk shredders and Malmsteen just took it to where nobody had nor could. The importance of VH and his ideas and hacks are unparalleled though for sure. I just don't subscribe to the 2 and done thing. There have been too many punctuation marks along the way throughout the history of guitar players to ignore them.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
I don't know about that.. I think there is room for a few more personally.. yes you had Hendrix but you also had Page. His riff writing and ideas are on another level for their time. You had VH but then you also had the rise of the neoclassical shredder thanks to Uli and Malmsteen. Uli was first if you want to talk shredders and Malmsteen just took it to where nobody had nor could. The importance of VH and his ideas and hacks are unparalleled though for sure. I just don't subscribe to the 2 and done thing. There have been too many punctuation marks along the way throughout the history of guitar players to ignore them.
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I think he meant to the general populace not guitar nerds. Most regular people know EVH. They do not know Uli Jon Roth etc. We all have our favs etc. But for biggest impact in the world of guitar I would say he is right. Everyone chased EVH in the early 80s.
 
legend71 said:
I think he meant to the general populace not guitar nerds. Most regular people know EVH. They do not know Uli Jon Roth etc. We all have our favs etc. But for biggest impact in the world of guitar I would say he is right. Everyone chased EVH in the early 80s.
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This. EVH actually wrote songs that people like to listen to.
 
legend71 said:
I think he meant to the general populace not guitar nerds. Most regular people know EVH. They do not know Uli Jon Roth etc. We all have our favs etc. But for biggest impact in the world of guitar I would say he is right. Everyone chased EVH in the early 80s.
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Yeah that's a fair point and I would agree with that. Also on the songs.. some great tunes that were catchy enough to sing along to. I give DLR some of the credit for that too but the riffage is all Ed.
 
311splawndude said:
OK. You don't HAVE to read it but the way he describes Eddie's tone and how it worked within the mix etc is just a really really good read. I highly recommend.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/new...frank_zappa_used_to_call_his_guitar_tone.html

I also learned that Steve Vai used to do guitar transcriptions for the trade rags to make extra cash back in the day and he tabbed out Eruption but never played it.
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He did Spanish Fly too, they were in Guitar Player.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
I don't know about that.. I think there is room for a few more personally.. yes you had Hendrix but you also had Page. His riff writing and ideas are on another level for their time. You had VH but then you also had the rise of the neoclassical shredder thanks to Uli and Malmsteen. Uli was first if you want to talk shredders and Malmsteen just took it to where nobody had nor could. The importance of VH and his ideas and hacks are unparalleled though for sure. I just don't subscribe to the 2 and done thing. There have been too many punctuation marks along the way throughout the history of guitar players to ignore them.
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I don`t know if you heard the audio version but Steve does mention other players just not by name
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
Yeah that's a fair point and I would agree with that. Also on the songs.. some great tunes that were catchy enough to sing along to. I give DLR some of the credit for that too but the riffage is all Ed.
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You'd be surprised how many songs were completely written by Dave. He was no slouch guitar player either and I love how in the old days those 2 would bounce stuff off each other. I was not there of course, but there was magic.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
I don't know about that.. I think there is room for a few more personally.. yes you had Hendrix but you also had Page. His riff writing and ideas are on another level for their time. You had VH but then you also had the rise of the neoclassical shredder thanks to Uli and Malmsteen. Uli was first if you want to talk shredders and Malmsteen just took it to where nobody had nor could. The importance of VH and his ideas and hacks are unparalleled though for sure. I just don't subscribe to the 2 and done thing. There have been too many punctuation marks along the way throughout the history of guitar players to ignore them.
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Only two albums but Randy Rhoads is in their somewhere..
 
I disagree as far as "Hendrix, EVH, and there hasn't been anyone else"

Yngwie, like it or not, influenced as many people as evh.

Now, after Yngwie? Maybe vais right. There have been precious few since that late 70s early 80s era.

But Vai is downplaying Yngwies influence. ESPECIALLY on metal.

How many arpeggios have you guys heard in modern lead? How much harmonic minor?
 
Sorry, I am never going to by Yngwie is as influential as EVH - in a particular genre, maybe...but overall? No way.

just look at album sales, magazine covers, product endorsements, etc...one can say that is just how much mass appeal is there but that is correlated with ‘influence’
 
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