Van Hagar tones

[paulyc]

VH I is the epitome of rock guitar tone. Period. My .02.

 

[metalmaniac93]

VH I is the epitome of rock guitar tone. Period. My .02.

No, it is VH1 through Fiar Warning that is the epitome of rock gutar tone!!!

 

[paulyc]

VH1 stands on it's own as different enough from II, Women, and Fair Warning. The chorus started on II and was silly by 1984...

 

[metalmaniac93]

VH1 stands on it's own as different enough from II, Women, and Fair Warning. The chorus started on II and was silly by 1984...

Yeah VH1 is defintely different, but they all kick ass!!! VH1 could never be recreated though I assume?

 

[paulyc]

Not even by Eddie ! I read in a recording magazine that he bought ALL the gear they did VH1 on (console, tape machine, outboard gear, etc...) when he built his 5150 studio all in an attempt to "get that sound back"...I think we can all see how THAT turned out.

I like VHII also, but Women is a little "grungy" for me. Fair Warning and Diver Down sound good, crisp...but without the saturation of VHI.

1984 has some good tunes and GREAT playing (Hot For Teacher...OMG!), but the actual sound seems weaker than the rest.

5150 (the album) is a buzzy chorused out mess..in fact, I didn't like anything until Balance and the Greatest Hits package (the 2 new Dave songs and Human's Being)

 

[stratotone]

VH1 stands on it's own as different enough from II, Women, and Fair Warning. The chorus started on II and was silly by 1984...

Yeah VH1 is defintely different, but they all kick ass!!! VH1 could never be recreated though I assume?

I think I got pretty close here. Original guitar first, then it fades, then mine recorded with one of my kemper profiles...

https://soundcloud.com/okstrat/feel-you ... tone-match

 

[ChadVanHalen]

worst evh era ...

I'll take 5150 over 1984 anyday... Except Panama and Teacher...

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Yes, I agree, Mean Street and anything from VHI, II, WACF, FW is some of if not the best music ever released...

I was just saying, unlike the people above me, I do like Van Hagar... So much so that Van Hagar's 5150 album, as a whole, is better than Van Halen's 1984, as a whole... Except for Panama and Hot for Teacher...

 

[charveldan]

worst evh era ...

exhibit A :

Anyone that grew up and was Blown away by the first 4 albums was scratching their heads at this one, well at least I was ...

 

[Racerxrated]

My favorite VH tones stopped after Fair Warning...although I enjoy ALL VH albums yes even Van Hagar. I thought the F.U.C.K tones were really good, and Balance as well. 5150 wasn't the raw VH that we grew up with but I still like a lot of the tunes..and at least Sammy stayed in tune..love the Dave stuff the best but live you never knew what you'd get ...

 

[paulyc]

I never said I didn't like Van Hagar...the tunes are still by Ed after all...but tone for tone, I like the DLR era best. I think his actual soloing and innovation had become stale by 5150 as well, just my .02

The chorus had been there since VHII, what I hate is the harmonizer that started on 5150 and the fizzy, super high gain of F.U.C.K.

And say what you want about VHIII with Gary Cherone...the album wasn't the best, but that was the best tour I've seen yet (starting with 5150). I didn't see the last one, but I've seen enough YT clips that it didn't matter to me to go. Gary singing "Unchained" and "Mean Street" was worth the price of admission alone...far, far better than either Dave or Sammy.

 

[charveldan]

Sammy writes in his book that when Eddie tried to bash out a window at 30'000 feet on their private jet in a rage it was at that time EVH was crazy and they parted ways.

Mmmm yep.

 

[Bluplirst]

I never said I didn't like Van Hagar...the tunes are still by Ed after all...but tone for tone, I like the DLR era best. I think his actual soloing and innovation had become stale by 5150 as well, just my .02

The chorus had been there since VHII, what I hate is the harmonizer that started on 5150 and the fizzy, super high gain of F.U.C.K.

And say what you want about VHIII with Gary Cherone...the album wasn't the best, but that was the best tour I've seen yet (starting with 5150). I didn't see the last one, but I've seen enough YT clips that it didn't matter to me to go. Gary singing "Unchained" and "Mean Street" was worth the price of admission alone...far, far better than either Dave or Sammy.

I think you just called an SLO fizzy

 

[paulyc]

Well, IF it was an SLO and NOT the 5150 I guess they didn't know how to EQ it in the studio or maybe at mastering.