Vh4 vs wiz mtl

[MetalHeadMike]

You would hate the VH4.... it's the antithesis of the Wizard. lol Dark, compressed, and smooth. It is probably the tightest of the Diezels though.

That's kind of what I suspected hence my never following through on the urge to try one. Diezels just seem to have a processed/polished and compressed tone/feel that I just haven't liked. The Herbert is evil sounding no doubt, but the low end is still too round and soft in the attack, too slow for my taste...despite boosting.

 

[Apex1Rg7X]

That's kind of what I suspected hence my never following through on the urge to try one. Diezels just seem to have a processed/polished and compressed tone/feel that I just haven't liked. The Herbert is evil sounding no doubt, but the low end is still too round and soft in the attack, too slow for my taste...despite boosting.

You basically just described why every single time I nearly talk myself into buying a Herbert or VH4 I bitch out at the last minute because I know I wont like it, haha.

 

[Dyllheaven88]

I've owned the Vh4 and Cali. The Cali is cool, but it needs to be a 100w amp. I hated the saturation pull... it gives it too much compression.

What do you not like about the MTL that makes you want to sell? If you want something more compressed and saturated with a little bounce in the response, maybe consider a Driftwood.

I honestly love it , I’ve had the mtl and mc25 , I actually have a 2016 as well , I feel like since I can’t open it up very often . And past two and half on the MV it shakes the doors I’m wasting its power lol . But the MV is really good .

 

[RedB4Black]

I honestly love it , I’ve had the mtl and mc25 , I actually have a 2016 as well , I feel like since I can’t open it up very often . And past two and half on the MV it shakes the doors I’m wasting its power lol . But the MV is really good .

It's not gonna be any better with a VH4 or Cali then. They all sound better moving some air. Maybe get a Fryette powerstation.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

You basically just described why every single time I nearly talk myself into buying a Herbert or VH4 I bitch out at the last minute because I know I wont like it, haha.

Yep. The Dmoll for me was one of the most disappointing amp purchases. I listed it after 3 days. At least the Heberts I kept for a week or two...LOL!

I always wanted to try the Lil Fokker, but like the VH4 never pull the trigger. Think it'd be better than Dmoll, or Herbert. for my tastes, but still not something I'd be super happy with.

 

[Techdeth]

You would hate the VH4.... it's the antithesis of the Wizard. lol Dark, compressed, and smooth. It is probably the tightest of the Diezels though.

It took awhile to bond with my Vh4 after owing a wizard that I love . It took me time but I got it sounding pretty damn awesome. But the wizard just fires up perfectly. I love my Herberts a lot more than my Vh4

 

[ZEN Amps]

What year is your MTL. I have a '16 that is definitely more scooped than my newer '19 KT150 and the '20 mk2 I had which are much more mid forward. I actually like '16 better than my mk2, so I ended up selling the mk2.

2016. It's a bit scooped, but just the right amount. I feel like it's the perfect 'rock players metal amp', meaning if you are a real metalhead and think Marshalls sound like arse you might need something more modern and aggressive.

The VH4 is certainly a great amp to have in the arsenal but it's a unique sound that doesn't work for everything, and certainly not for everyone. I would encourage anyone to try one in person if possible, hard to gauge through chat and recordings.

 

[saxxamafone]

The VH4 works when blended with a Marshall. I struggle with the VH4 by itself.

The MTL basically gets that blended sound in 1 amp in my opinion.

 

[Dino 939]

Any of you dude's ever wonder..
With these versus questions,
Screw the amps, let's have a
Amp Builder Death Match.
Rick vs Peter?
Larry vs Dumble?
Friedman vs Cameron?

The ring will be in the shape of an octal
power tube base.

I want to be the Vegas announcer guy.
No worries dude's, I'll be bringing the
Corey Taylor best scream in the business: "COME ON!!!!!!"

For real man!

Hey Racererated, I call you Racer X,
FYI, there was a big curveball for the main event, Larry versus Dumble.
2 hours before the fight, Howard cancelled
due to some random GI troubles and was replaced by...Fortin.
Dude, that was a bloodbath.
I gotta mention how RAD that move was
that Fortin pulled at the end man.
Basically, Larry smoked cigarettes the entire bought.
At the end of the 3rd round, Fortin had enough
of it and right after Larry lit his German
stoggie', Mike grabbed the stoggie' out of
Larry's mouth, broke it in half, lit the broken
half of the stoggie' with the other lit half of stoggie & crammed each lit stoggie' right on center into his ears and..dimed them.
TKO, ENDGAME, there's a bit more but I can't
type it.
Man, what a CRAZY night!!!