What happen to psychodave????

[Digital Jams]

This whole thing may actually turn into a positive. True colors are coming out, some of which I never knew.

I have said the same things to Dave in the past that I have said in this thread. Nothing new from me here.

I agree, what you have said in this thread you have said to Dave so nothing new from you. I believe you too always seemed to agree to disagree and moved forward.

I have known dave for years and have enjoyed our conversations, I also knew this time was coming as I already knew what Brad explained concerning Mark's lack of presence and I also agree with alot of what dave thought regarding the new amps only, not defending past behaviors or characters.

 

[killertone]

This whole thing may actually turn into a positive. True colors are coming out, some of which I never knew.

I have said the same things to Dave in the past that I have said in this thread. Nothing new from me here.

I agree, what you have said in this thread you have said to Dave so nothing new from you. I believe you too always seemed to agree to disagree and moved forward.

True. We had a completely civil relationship. I live my life drama free, and this will be my last post in this thread in order to uphold that mission.

 

[Gainzilla]

My worthless .02 and no offense to those who consider Dave a friend. But for me I would never be friends with anyone who thinks it's ok to be friends with a thief like Mark Cameron. All gear knowledge, great chops, and video demo's aside this really tainted my view of Dave, especially one who claimed the ethics he did in political discussions in the OT. Smelt a little hypocritical at best.

And yes after a bit I really thought "What the hell is Brad thinking in doing this Cameron amp thing and helping a guy that screwed over all those people". Sorry Brad and no offense but at least you never defended Mark's actions like Dave did. I understand it from seeing an amp that a lot of people liked and trying to acquire that property to bring it to market and make money but Mark Cameron is fucking thief and sounds like nothing short of a miracle will always be. Best of luck with what you were able to get out of it.

+1. Pretty much spot on with this.

There is a huuuuge reason I never go into the OT area of this forum...I just don't want to know what ridiculous shit is spewed there.

Well, you both got it wrong but youre certainly welcomed to your opinions..

Nope I'm dead on right in where I said Dave defends and by his own words is friends with a thief and thinks that's ok. Fact.

Not cool in my book.

Nope, you arent but this certainly isnt worth arguing about. Like I said, youre welcomed to your opinion but dont claim it as a fact

No opinion involved becasue it is a fact Dave constantly defended a guy who is a well known thief and called him by his own words a friend. Use the "opinion" red herring all you wish but your thinking is "fat" on this.

No red herrings or fat thinking here, certainly not on my end. As this is just going in circles, Ill happily leave you to your opinion as none of this really serves anything..

 

[Gainzilla]

This whole thing may actually turn into a positive. True colors are coming out, some of which I never knew.

I have said the same things to Dave in the past that I have said in this thread. Nothing new from me here.

I agree, what you have said in this thread you have said to Dave so nothing new from you. I believe you too always seemed to agree to disagree and moved forward.

True. We had a completely civil relationship. I live my life drama free, and this will be my last post in this thread in order to uphold that mission.

Amen to that, count me in!!!

 

[ejecta]

As this is just going in circles, Ill happily leave you to your opinion

Likewise. And like Killertone said I'm glad this happened...... showed some true colors around here.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Dave believed the bullshit Mark would tell him and developed an agenda based on Marks version of events. Dave pretty much said Mark didn't design any of these amps and Mark was being screwed and he developed an agenda to promote the total BS agenda Mark was telling him.

I called Dave on it and told him to stop, I told him his source was full of shit and he is. I have no problems with people sharing their honest opinions about anything and I could care less if you like an amp or not but if you make it your mission to kick me in the nuts because Mark Cameron sold you a bunch of bullshit I will have a conversation with you which I did with Dave via PM.

He didn't want to believe it, asked to leave AND requested all of his posts to be removed. So thats what happened.

Here is the deal on Cameron and Cameron Amplifiers.

Mark is a talented designer and has an ear for great tone. Mark is also mentally unstable and less than honest. I had my fill of Mark Cameron just before Christmas and broke ties with him. I have allot vested in the Cameron Amplifiers name and I will protect my investment.

At great expense and drama over the past year Mark Cameron sat down with designed, blue printed & spec'd the following products:

CCV
Mini CCV
Atomica
Old Bitch
Attenuator
Several Cabinet designs.

For those not in the know most guys can't get back their simple Marshall mods from Mark in years so the uphill battle to get all of these on paper was more that you could imagine. Dave Friedman didn't design these amps Mark did, if Mark says any different he is lying.

Thats it, those will be the only Cameron products along with possibly the CCM in the future. Mark Cameron has very few friends left and Dave is one of them until he gets screwed. Ask Jerry, Kurt, Nick, Chris, Drew, Rob, Myself and countless others. All roads lead to the same place with Mark.

Thats the honest truth and the reason Dave is no longer here at his own choice.

Brad

I can't say that I believe you that you're 100% accurate about Dave but since I really don't have a dog in any fight and I do agree that Mark has fucked over guys in the past and ran a shady business then I could care less that he dropped the ball and has been shown the door. Seems like he made yet another bad business decision and has to watch from the sidelines as his name and design gets used.

 

[Gainzilla]

As this is just going in circles, Ill happily leave you to your opinion

Likewise. And like Killertone said I'm glad this happened...... showed some true colors around here.

 

[ejecta]

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe the game had a change of heart and did it himself.

I didn't delete anything. Sucks that the funniest part was the photo.

The mod that deleted it should fess up.

Was not me...I like a good train wreck as much as anybody else!!


Oh and....I like Booby's..

 

[thegame]

Maybe the game had a change of heart and did it himself.

Oh, and thats ridiculous. I don't have a heart. Look at my avatar. I'm made of metal and my circuits gleam....

 

[Anonymous]

There's far too many dogs not fighting or hunting....I wanna see some fighting and hunting yes..you can watch hunting kinda like watching a guy fish....

 

[joepete77]

Dave did contribute the stuff that keeps it interesting around here such as clips and mod info and an honest opinion. That being said, he did seem to have an agenda in his posts about the brad era Cameron stuff at times. I think his posts where he didn't like how the newer amps sounded ruffled some feathers as many valued Dave's opinion and this could effect sales. I know he was curious as to why the 1 gain knob on atomica and it's spec etc.

 

[Chubtone]

At great expense and drama over the past year Mark Cameron sat down with us and designed, blue printed & spec'd the following products:

CCV
Mini CCV
Atomica
Old Bitch
Attenuator
Several Cabinet designs.

Brad,
Thanks for explaining your side of things. I have known Mark for about 15 years and always wish for the best for him (and his customers). He has the mind of an artist (of which many of the most talented are truly nuts. I'm not saying Mark is!) and just doesn't have the kind of focus and discipline to succeed in the business world. When he is on his own this hurts him and when he partners with a business partner it can lead them to want to jump off of a bridge or throw Mark off. Have you been there?

But look at the bright side. You mention one year and great expense, but look at that line-up of products you listed above. Four amp heads, an attenuator and several cabinet designs! If you take all the small companies with a less impressive line-up than that out of the NAMM show or the Amp Show you are going to have empty Amp Shows and the downstairs of NAMM won't be needed.

I can't imagine what it was like to corral Mark and get that stuff out of him, but I'd say that's an impressive potential line up for one year with any amp designer. I doubt Santiago at Marshall or Delaney at Randall or any other amp designer gives there company that much product in a year.

When the dust clears, I want a mini CCV!

 

[Bob Savage]

When the dust clears, I want a mini CCV!

I want one of those too. It sounded fantastic.

 

[Chubtone]

When the dust clears, I want a mini CCV!

I want one of those too. It sounded fantastic.

I'm basing wanting one off of sah5150's description of the amp.

 

[Anonymous]

When the dust clears, I want a mini CCV!

I want one of those too. It sounded fantastic.

I'm basing wanting one off of sah5150's description of the amp.

I want one too!

Steve

 

[Bob Savage]

this is the best worst thread ever...when will it end?!

A dollar three eighty.

 

[jmgman69]

WTF......only 5 pages is this place slowing down

 

[Mailman1971]

WTF......only 5 pages is this place slowing down

"Its just the right thing to do."

 

[shreder75]

I like Dave. Been to each other's pads many times and he's helped me with tube issues on more than one occasion...

as far as Cameron being a 'shady' guy insofar as his business dealings or not getting people what they paid for one to two years after the fact? That news is about as recent as the news that the earth does indeed revolve around the sun and not the other way around..

at this point I'm surprised this comes to a shock to anybody that's hung out here..

what's also funny is that Dave seems to be the tip of the spear here...prior to the JVM, prior to Fortin, there were plenty of people on here who were throwing their hats in Mark's corner of the ring even though a single production model wasn't even out at that point..and wouldn't come for many many months..despite all the horror stories people would post about sending him an amp and four figures worth of dollars for mods then still be waiting two years after the fact...

so in my opinion I think singling out dave in any way shape or form insofar as Cameron goes (for good or bad) is quite frankly, a douche move...