when did thrash tone change?

[Juggernaut]

See, even though song and arrangement is killer I just don't like this kind of guitar tone. It's thick and throaty but there's just this layer of fizz and sizzle on the top end that gets really fatiguing for me. Is it a Diezel or Uber thing? Recto? I just think a JMP/JCM with a pedal will never be eclipsed for the greatest Thrash Metal sound. A lot of the newer modern amps are just trying to be too thick and HiFi and I've never heard a top end I like on any modern high gain amp yet.

I know you posted this as a response that not all new stuff is tuned to Z, rubbery nonsense and Exodus has been a better band in the last 10 years than they ever were in the 80's but I think my ears are time capsuled into the 70's and 80's, re: guitar tones, for better our worse.

It's a boosted Engl savage 120

 

[LowDesertSludge]

I don't dig the vocalists on the new young bands doing the Thrash thing. Too much carry over from screamo etc. A high pitched shriek is not Thrash to my ears. It's why I can't get into bands like Skeltonwitch and that band posted Warbringer even though the music is pretty good.

Started listening to Skeletonwitch a couple of years ago. I don't see how they can be lumped into Thrash. Great grooves written in E standard though.

 

[ke2]

Look to Britain

 

[moronmountain]

See, even though song and arrangement is killer I just don't like this kind of guitar tone. It's thick and throaty but there's just this layer of fizz and sizzle on the top end that gets really fatiguing for me. Is it a Diezel or Uber thing? Recto? I just think a JMP/JCM with a pedal will never be eclipsed for the greatest Thrash Metal sound. A lot of the newer modern amps are just trying to be too thick and HiFi and I've never heard a top end I like on any modern high gain amp yet.

I know you posted this as a response that not all new stuff is tuned to Z, rubbery nonsense and Exodus has been a better band in the last 10 years than they ever were in the 80's but I think my ears are time capsuled into the 70's and 80's, re: guitar tones, for better our worse.

I dunno, Exodus has always been super scooped out sounding with lots of high end. In fact the regular rock dudes I know from the 80's always called guitars with a thrash tone a buzzy bee in a jar. I always got what there were saying, but the sound still makes sense for that kind of music, and I think most of the bands back then always had a bit of sizzle on top.

 

[shredhead7]

Because 5150's and Recto's became the standard amps for the genre, though now you can add Engl and Randall into the mix. Hell, you were hard pressed to find a new thrash band until about 5 years ago. So with the exception of shitty releases from the big 4 throughout the 90's, plus Overkill and Anthrax, thrash died until around '07-08 when it started cropping up again. But, mostly it has to do with metal guys getting away from Marshall's and moving to high gain amps.

 

[headlessdeadguy]

i know what you mean, i don't necessarily mind a meatier production , here's another new thrash band, mids/meat/peavey ? =0

MARK IV

 

[moltisanti]

doesn't get any better than this for me :

 

[mctallica1]

I like this album quite a bit. Not sure I would use that tone for my playing but it works when Gary is ripping it up!

On a side note, I saw them when they were on tour with Anthrax, Shadows Fall, etc a while back and the singer for Exodus came accross as a coked up asshole backstage and when they were playing. He really turned me off wanting to see them again any time soon.

 

[Mudder]

Something that has changed over the last 15 years or so has been the lowering of tuning everywhere. Whether the idea is to have the song feel heavier or help the singer, I'm not a huge fan. I want the guitars to have that higher midrange growl, let the bass be low. Great thrash tunes, to me, seem to have that mid range that's a punch to the chin.