Which speakers to get?

[Omnipotent1]

Vintage 30 and G12T-75 X pattern Build ur own uberkab? Just a thought. Most definitely a safe build. Or roll the dice & live a little with something you never heard of.

 

[VonBonfire]

I went the opposite direction, and it's absolutely devastation.
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Somebody around here knows what's up!!!!

 

[thegame]

I went the opposite direction, and it's absolutely devastation.
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My God, you've got to be pushing at least 50w through each of those cabs!

 

[VonBonfire]

My God, you've got to be pushing at least 50w through each of those cabs!

 

[Nigel]

I have a Friedman.

Those are Chinese. Get some T4416 16 ohm Mesas and it will be a level above a stock Friedman cab, for enjoyment AND resale.

Then get a Mesa OS with the T4335 8 ohms and you'll be super set on V30 tone! Best of both worlds!

Mesa retained the OG formula from Celestion after they made a cheaper version for everyone else. Even UK V30's after 91 or 92 were inferior. "UK" means nothing.

 

[thegame]

How many is this? You have no idea bitch!
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JJs in a vintage Boogie? Shame on you.

 

[stephen sawall]

The Celestion G12-100 Raven is supposed to be out in April.

 

[Music&Chaos]

I have six 4x12s, one of which is unloaded.

Currently I have the following speaker setups.

Vintage 30s
Greenbacks
Lynchbacks
Creambacks M65
Mamzer 30s by Fane

I’ve been considering Scumback BM75s.

Play hard rock primarily.

Try the Scumbacks - everyone says they are good.

I do like my Avatar speakers - particularly the AV75s for certain amps, but definitely not for others.

Fane M65s are great to pair in a mix, or on their own depending on the amp.

I have had a couple of WGS speakers I liked, but they weren't phenomenal at volume.

 

[ChurchHill]

I was gonna say G12-65 or EVM-12L but everybody beat me to it. The new 55hz Blackbacks might be a good thing, too, as others have suggested.

Fane F70?

 

[anomaly]

Yeah I thought about the 16 ohm Marshall Vintages as being legit, you are correct, but they aren't as good as Mesa T4416's.

I've got a OS Mesa cab, sounds great. That said, by best sounding V30's are actually chinese.

 

[Racerxrated]

Yeah I thought about the 16 ohm Marshall Vintages as being legit, you are correct, but they aren't as good as Mesa T4416's.

Clearly, you haven't played the 80s Marshall Vintages. But, not many have. They're more rare than any other Celestion not named G12M20 from 1966-67.
So, you get a free pass. I've had a few Mesa cabs, both Standard and Traditional from the early 2k range and they are great...with Mesas. Not so much with other amps.

 

[njshred]

. I've had a few Mesa cabs, both Standard and Traditional from the early 2k range and they are great...with Mesas. Not so much with other amps.

So you mean Soldanos.

 

[Racerxrated]

So you mean Soldanos.

Yep, Soldanos hate them too, in my experience. SLOs, HRs all seem to love any speaker that Marshalls love.

 

[Beyond Black]

I went the opposite direction, and it's absolutely devastation.

Yep, Soldanos hate them too, in my experience. SLOs, HRs all seem to love any speaker that Marshalls love.

Any upper mid prevalent amp with V30’s is mid overkill.

 

[Nigel]

Clearly, you haven't played the 80s Marshall Vintages. But, not many have. They're more rare than any other Celestion not named G12M20 from 1966-67.
So, you get a free pass. I've had a few Mesa cabs, both Standard and Traditional from the early 2k range and they are great...with Mesas. Not so much with other amps.

The problem with Mesa 4x12 tone is the input jack and parallel-series wiring. Once I rewired mine, it sounds incredible with any amp I put on it. Unless the cab is beat to death broken in, the wiring is why amps hate it imho.

 

[thegame]

Clearly, you haven't played the 80s Marshall Vintages.

Those are 8 ohm only, correct?

 

[anomaly]

Any upper mid prevalent amp with V30’s is mid overkill.

Not exactly, I think most Peavey amps sound good with Mesa cabs and V30's. Actually, almost anything high gain, and modern sounding amps as well. Vintage amps tend to like speakers like greenbacks better, but they can work with the right V30 loaded cab.

 

[anomaly]

The problem with Mesa 4x12 tone is the input jack and parallel-series wiring. Once I rewired mine, it sounds incredible with any amp I put on it. Unless the cab is beat to death broken in, the wiring is why amps hate it imho.

So it's gotta be series parallel? There's hardly an audible difference IMO, if any.

 

[Racerxrated]

Those are 8 ohm only, correct?

Not necessarily. I have a 412 with all 16 ohm versions from 87. They are labelled 8 ohm. I'm thinking they were 'mislabelled' as Celestion sometimes did over the years. But, afaik no 412 came stock with them as 16s. The cab I have is an early 80s 800 cab that someone later put these in. The other cab I have is a stock original 1988 8 ohm 800 cab with them. The only other way to find 16 ohm versions were to pull them from Jubilee 212 combos.

 

[Racerxrated]

The problem with Mesa 4x12 tone is the input jack and parallel-series wiring. Once I rewired mine, it sounds incredible with any amp I put on it. Unless the cab is beat to death broken in, the wiring is why amps hate it imho.

Haven't tried that, so can't say.