Who got in Metallica’s ear on the justice tour?

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Mids or not, I find those guitars are super buried in that live mix in the video.

I personally find the whole more mids mentality a bit overblown. Yes, don't scoop your mids to hell and back live, that's common sense, but you also have to consider the vocals occupy that space, so you have to leave some room for them.

Like someone said, it's a fine line. It's as easy to get into a stuffy, boxy, vocal, honky sound as it is to get into a boomy, sibilant mess.

JMO/JME.
 
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I just enjoyed them still being awesome in this clip... but yes, MIDs for live playing naturally where there is no sound treatment in hockey arena's where bass is bouncing all over the place.
 
Can someone explain why did the engineer listen to Lars? Lars is not a fucking engineer. Engineer should have told him to get out of the room you don't know shit. There's no bass on the record. How the fuck did Lars have the final say when the bass isn't audible. As far as I am concerned, AJFA is only 75% of a complete record.
 
Metalhex said:
Can someone explain why did the engineer listen to Lars? Lars is not a fucking engineer. Engineer should have told him to get out of the room you don't know shit. There's no bass on the record. How the fuck did Lars have the final say when the bass isn't audible. As far as I am concerned, AJFA is only 75% of a complete record.
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Because he was in the band that had the deal with the record label that wrote the checks?
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Because he was in the band that had the deal with the record label that wrote the checks?
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No one else chimed in and said that might be a bad idea? Didn't they listen to a master copy before the album was released and realized there was no bass? That's a real head scratcher there.
 
I'd imagine both James and Lars were out of control during those sessions between grief, being major pissed off, and lots of booze.
Doubt Kirk ever got much of a vote on anything and Jason sure wasn't gonna start a fight over it.
James probably got sick of Lars yapping his case all the time and just said fuck it. :bash:

Not sure why Lars did it since it exposed how shitty his bass drums were recorded.
Way too dry and sterile sounding.
 
Metalhex said:
No one else chimed in and said that might be a bad idea? Didn't they listen to a master copy before the album was released and realized there was no bass? That's a real head scratcher there.
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Apparently James made a 'I know dude, but whaddayagonnado, right?'-shrug to the engineer, probably trying to not explode the band.

But I agree it's still shitty and more folks involved -with ears- should've done something about it, because some lame-ass pissing contest should not destroy a record's mix. One of the reasons I actually find it hard to commit to recordings myself, because I treat it as 'once it's done, it should be perfect, because it's a record...in the broader sense of the word, for posterity, etc.'
But then again, nobody told Vinnie Vincent "hey dude, your guitar is ehm... annoyingly loud in the mix" either. :cautious:
 
Rex Rocker said:
Mids or not, I find those guitars are super buried in that live mix in the video.

I personally find the whole more mids mentality a bit overblown. Yes, don't scoop your mids to hell and back live, that's common sense, but you also have to consider the vocals occupy that space, so you have to leave some room for them.

Like someone said, it's a fine line. It's as easy to get into a stuffy, boxy, vocal, honky sound as it is to get into a boomy, sibilant mess.

JMO/JME.
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Definitely. Cranked mids always sound like shit, unless you're using an amp with an EQ that barely works
 
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