Why Democracy Leads to Tyranny

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The U.S. had some states with very strict measures and some with little to none. The U.S. is a pretty huge country and in a way, is like 50 separate countries in one.

Comparing the U.S. and Australia in terms of Covid measures and outcomes is an apples/oranges comparison. The U.S. is about seven times the size of Australia with a population over 12 times larger than Australia. The U.S. has over 8 times the number of people per square kilometer than Australia. I would think those factors would have a large part in the disparity between the two countries in terms of Covid deaths per capital, maybe more so than any government measures. The U.S. Covid deaths count was distorted by attributing any death of a person with Covid as a Covid death. If someone died of a heart attack but also had Covid, it was accounted as a Covid death. Or if someone died in a car crash but had Covid, it was a Covid death.

When it comes down to it, shit has to get done regardless of the dangers in the world. When humans were hunter/gatherers, if all people stayed inside the safety of their dwellings to avoid getting eaten by predators, killed by other factions, or whatever other dangers there were, they would have starved to death.

The deaths caused by Covid measures in the U.S. will never be accurately accounted and there were deaths. Mental illness proliferated and there were no adequate resources for treatment. Drug addiction and alcoholism increased. Physical fitness declined as recreational facilities were closed, even outdoor facilities and people were encouraged to stay in their homes. Walking and hiking trails were closed. People were arrested for kayaking alone. Preventative medical screenings were out on hold as doctors offices were shutdown .

I won't even get into the economic impacts or the setbacks in development and education of children.

It was all fucking ridiculous and shameful.
The size comparison and population densities are misleading... All our population is concentrated on the coasts and our large cities (where most people live) are just like any US city. I don't think it's apples and oranges at all really.
 
I truly believe that anyone who thinks other people should be forced to stay at home, instead of them choosing to stay at home, has an incurable personality disorder or brain damage.
 
I truly believe that anyone who thinks other people should be forced to stay at home, instead of them choosing to stay at home, has an incurable personality disorder or brain damage.
As long as they don't have to get their hands dirty it's fine. The spirit of fear is a powerful demon.
 
I truly believe that anyone who thinks other people should be forced to stay at home, instead of them choosing to stay at home, has an incurable personality disorder or brain damage.
I truly believe that any Government or person would forgo sensible quarantine measures to protect their citizens in the face of a pandemic has an incurable personality disorder of brain damage. The quarantine measures bought us time while they developed measures to mitigate the threat. It was very well managed under trying circumstances. We did a lot better than the US did in terms of the numbers.
 
As long as they don't have to get their hands dirty it's fine. The spirit of fear is a powerful demon.
and yet you are afraid of vaccines.

Incidentally managing risk is not fear. It's using your brain.
 
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It's now been "tested" on billions. That makes it one of the most tested drugs in the history of man.
Yes, tested on people who were willing to be guinea pigs and the long term results of that test are still unknown.
 
“Emergency” use ??
Ah yes, that's right. Same thing. Lacking any long term testing. Lacking any short term testing too. Gotta take it to find out what's in it is not my preferred method of consuming drugs.
 
truly believe that any Government or person would forgo sensible quarantine measures to protect their citizens in the face of a pandemic has an incurable personality disorder of brain damage
Are people not smart enough to choose to stay in if there is a risk? And like the vaccine, why does someone care if others decide to go out if one is safe and secure in their own home?
 
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And like the vaccine, why does someone care if others decide to go out if one is safe and secure in their own home?
because those people that don't stay in their own home spread it to new communities and locales. It ain't rocket science. They get petrol, they go to the supermarket. It spreads. They visit old folks in retirement homes and kill them by giving them COVID. Those people who have to stay in their homes live with people that wouldn't and they come home and give it to them after having their selfish little parties. What you are suggesting wouldn't have worked and in the US it didn't did it. Idiots.
 
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You can't maintain a state of perpetual lockdown so ultimately it spreads anyways.
Yes but here we slowed the spread until we got vaccinated unlike the US. So it worked. I didn't end up catching it until I was fully vaccinated and then for me it was mild - so I'm happy I was vaccinated.
 
because those people that don't stay in their own home spread it to new communities and locales. It ain't rocket science. They get petrol, they go to the supermarket. It spreads. They visit old folks in retirement homes and kill them by giving them COVID. Those people who have to stay in their homes live with people that wouldn't and they come home and give it to them after having their selfish little parties. What you are suggesting wouldn't have worked and in the US it didn't did it. Idiots.
Dude. How is it my fault someone’s roommate, spouse, etc. can’t take proper precautions? …It’s not! And how is it my fault some nursing home can’t properly vet the visitors as needed during a pandemic? …It’s not! Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? You are as “Left” as anyone I’ve ever heard! You call yourself a conservative?! You’re just a big government, whiny ass lefty ?
 
Quit calling the mutagen a vaccine, please.
Vaxx or Vax is acceptable as it has Xs in it. Like the X-Men. Who are mutants.
 
Quit calling the mutagen a vaccine, please.
Vaxx or Vax is acceptable as it has Xs in it. Like the X-Men. Who are mutants.
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