stephen sawall
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Bad marketing & production. Completely forgot about it when I sold my soul .... Never trust a being of light.
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C1-ocaster
New member
Who said I haven't made it big...yet?
I just signed with a major record company, owned and managed by this guy I met not too long ago. His name is Takin B. Satan. Odd name. I think he said it was Middle Easter or something like that. He seemed a decent fellow. We've been to a lot of cool parties stocked with the most gorgeous women, like model hot and gorgeous. He even hooked me up with a couple. He told me about all the fame and fortune that he can get me, and all the promotion he's investing it. All that was left to do was to sign the contract.
Kinda odd though cause the contract was written on some odd feeling paper. It felt kinda soft and velvety, kinda like....I don't know...baby skin?
He had a fountain pen, but was out of ink and it HAD to get signed last night. He say's, "Just give me your finger and I'll just prick a couple finger tips a bit, like checking blood sugar levels. No big thing. It'll work fine."
It didn't hurt at all. Surprised though at the amount of blood that came out. Anyway, plenty to sign my name. Done Deal! Sweet!
The best part is that he's only keeping 5% of everything! And I get 95%!
The only stipulation, for insurance and return on his invest, is that once my career either wanes or if I get killed somehow, then everything left goes 100% to him. But how cares about that. I'm still young and very healthy.
He joked, "Yeah, I take EVERYTHING in the end...and I'll probably even take your body." He's a riot and funny like that.
It was funny really and we both laughed.
Did some jamming today, and I'll tell ya, I must have been feeling really good from signing that contract because I was playing so F'ing awesome today. I mean I was playing like I've never played before. It felt inspired like by some other worldly power.
BTW, I think I'm developing some odd eye thing I need to get looked at. I keep seeing these dark specs kinda like shadows quickly flying by out of the corner of my eye. I keep thinking that the specks look like human shapes or something zipping around just our of my peripheral vision.
I kid myself that I'm seeing ghosts or something. But I don't believe in that malarky cause there's no such thing as spirits and $hit.
You should be hearing my new album very soon. Rock ON!
I just signed with a major record company, owned and managed by this guy I met not too long ago. His name is Takin B. Satan. Odd name. I think he said it was Middle Easter or something like that. He seemed a decent fellow. We've been to a lot of cool parties stocked with the most gorgeous women, like model hot and gorgeous. He even hooked me up with a couple. He told me about all the fame and fortune that he can get me, and all the promotion he's investing it. All that was left to do was to sign the contract.
Kinda odd though cause the contract was written on some odd feeling paper. It felt kinda soft and velvety, kinda like....I don't know...baby skin?
He had a fountain pen, but was out of ink and it HAD to get signed last night. He say's, "Just give me your finger and I'll just prick a couple finger tips a bit, like checking blood sugar levels. No big thing. It'll work fine."
It didn't hurt at all. Surprised though at the amount of blood that came out. Anyway, plenty to sign my name. Done Deal! Sweet!
The best part is that he's only keeping 5% of everything! And I get 95%!
The only stipulation, for insurance and return on his invest, is that once my career either wanes or if I get killed somehow, then everything left goes 100% to him. But how cares about that. I'm still young and very healthy.
He joked, "Yeah, I take EVERYTHING in the end...and I'll probably even take your body." He's a riot and funny like that.
It was funny really and we both laughed.
Did some jamming today, and I'll tell ya, I must have been feeling really good from signing that contract because I was playing so F'ing awesome today. I mean I was playing like I've never played before. It felt inspired like by some other worldly power.
BTW, I think I'm developing some odd eye thing I need to get looked at. I keep seeing these dark specs kinda like shadows quickly flying by out of the corner of my eye. I keep thinking that the specks look like human shapes or something zipping around just our of my peripheral vision.
I kid myself that I'm seeing ghosts or something. But I don't believe in that malarky cause there's no such thing as spirits and $hit.
You should be hearing my new album very soon. Rock ON!
Chubtone
Well-known member
Can we call you Lightning Boy? 
ChadVanHalen
New member
You poor, unfortunate soul... It's sad. But true.C1-ocaster":35z6iczn said:Who said I haven't made it big...yet?
I just signed with a major record producer named Iam B. Satan. He seemed a decent fellow. Told about all the fame and fortune that he can get me and all the was required was to sign the contract.
Kinda odd though cause the contract was written on some odd feeling paper. It felt kinda soft and velvety, kinda like....I don't know...baby skin?
He had a fountain pen, but was out of ink so he said, "Just me your finger and I'll just prick the finger tips a bit, like checking blood sugar levels."
It didn't hurt at all. Surprised though at the amount of blood that came out. Anyway, plenty to sign my name.
The best part is that he's only keeping 5% of everything! And I get 95%!
The only stipulation is that once my career either wanes or if I get killed somehow, then everything left goes 100% to him.
He joked, "Yeah, I take EVERYTHING in the end...and I even get to take you." It was funny really and we both laughed.
Did some jamming today, and I'll tell ya, I must have been feeling really good from signing that contract because I was playing so F'ing good today. I mean I was playing like I've never played before. It felt inspired by some other worldly power.
BTW, I think I'm developing some odd eye thing I need to get looked at. I'm keep seeing these dark shadows quickly flying by out of the corner of my eye. I keep thinking that it looks like someone or something is zipping around just our of m peripheral vision.
I kid myself that I'm seeing ghosts or something. But I don't believe in that malarky cause there's no such thing as spirits and $hit.
You should be hearing my new album very soon.
jet66
Member
That's the long and short of it, for me. Between cutthroat band members and greedy club owners, the fun got sucked right out of it for me pretty quick. It wasn't long after we finally started getting steady paying work (cover band, but it paid vs. playing for 'exposure' with the originals...) that it felt like a job for me. And not the satisfying 'I enjoy my work' kind of job, but rather the 'I can't wait to get paid and go home' kind of job. The originals scenes seemed to be even worse, with all kinds of people who wrote checks their 'talent' couldn't cash. And it seemed like there was ALWAYS someone trying to lure you away from whatever band you were in at the time. The way the music business works, at pretty much all levels, is just too F-ed up for me. I can put up with a lot of BS, but not for that low of a salary.Heritage Softail":cclz3y4p said:
P.S.: My idea of 'making it BIG' didn't mean I had to be famous, I just wanted to get to the point where I could make a living. Some of the most 'successful' guitar guys I knew were never even close to famous, they were just steadily and well-paid. Cruise lines, corporate gigs, nicer club franchises/circuits, etc.
diezelduder
Well-known member
i thought it would be better to be a jobless gear whore instead, makes sense, who really wants to make it anyways?
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TrueTone500
Banned
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singtall":8qez3pzn said:
Would this vocal coach happen to be Ron Feldman?
PBGas
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I always only did it for fun. I mean, everyone dreams of the rock star lifestyle when they are younger but as pointed out, reality starts to set in.
When I started making some $$$ at it in the studio years ago and continuing today, I realized, it's still fun.....just getting paid once in a while is a bonus and I don't have to deal with the other crap.
When I started making some $$$ at it in the studio years ago and continuing today, I realized, it's still fun.....just getting paid once in a while is a bonus and I don't have to deal with the other crap.
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polaris20
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Jer":16ihwiio said:
+1.
I went through a string of bands that failed to lift off due to mostly drama, or one member sucking. Then marriage/higher education/kids pretty much cemented my life as a family man/IT guy.
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sparkle**
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Our singer asked the A&R REP ...'when she was due"... well guess what she WASN"T DUE AT ALL!....
rlord1974
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sparkle**":gw9wyqxi said:
Did your singer suffer from developmental issues?
muudrock
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Read my sig.....
Seriously though, what is the definition of making it big? Regional, National, International? Consistent income or 7 figures before the decimal point?
I was brought up around the biz and have seen so many people fail at it more so for a lack of knowledge on how it really works... Truth is, in the end wait for it.....It's a business and has little to nothing to do with art or music. It's just a job, a career choice.
That being said, you can make a living in the biz and a good one if you are smart about it, and that's the kind of life you want. It's really like any other career or job choice. If you apply yourself, work at it and network it can be done.
I look at guys like Pete Thorn as "making it". Having a successful career as a musician, making a living and doing what you love.
I've been fortunate to have been making a living doing what I truly love to do for 25 yrs. I'm 44, you've never heard of me and probably never will. I've been lucky to have played music with great musicians, some well known, some not, but at the end of the day, I've made it a career.
Seriously though, what is the definition of making it big? Regional, National, International? Consistent income or 7 figures before the decimal point?
I was brought up around the biz and have seen so many people fail at it more so for a lack of knowledge on how it really works... Truth is, in the end wait for it.....It's a business and has little to nothing to do with art or music. It's just a job, a career choice.
That being said, you can make a living in the biz and a good one if you are smart about it, and that's the kind of life you want. It's really like any other career or job choice. If you apply yourself, work at it and network it can be done.
I look at guys like Pete Thorn as "making it". Having a successful career as a musician, making a living and doing what you love.
I've been fortunate to have been making a living doing what I truly love to do for 25 yrs. I'm 44, you've never heard of me and probably never will. I've been lucky to have played music with great musicians, some well known, some not, but at the end of the day, I've made it a career.
MOOSEHEADS
Member
I was always better with the drugs than I was with the rocknroll.......... 
Say no to drugs kids.
Say no to drugs kids.
Rushtallica
Member
Business":31ok8px3 said:
Same here. And having no major concern about trying to make it at least plays a role for me.
WhammybarAllstar
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muudrock":umnn6jdp said:Read my sig.....
Seriously though, what is the definition of making it big? Regional, National, International? Consistent income or 7 figures before the decimal point?
I was brought up around the biz and have seen so many people fail at it more so for a lack of knowledge on how it really works... Truth is, in the end wait for it.....It's a business and has little to nothing to do with art or music. It's just a job, a career choice.
That being said, you can make a living in the biz and a good one if you are smart about it, and that's the kind of life you want. It's really like any other career or job choice. If you apply yourself, work at it and network it can be done.
I look at guys like Pete Thorn as "making it". Having a successful career as a musician, making a living and doing what you love.
I've been fortunate to have been making a living doing what I truly love to do for 25 yrs. I'm 44, you've never heard of me and probably never will. I've been lucky to have played music with great musicians, some well known, some not, but at the end of the day, I've made it a career.
This is very close to my experience. I didn't start making money in music until I decided to stop "trying" to make it, and be practical, with realistic expectations. It really depends on what you're trying to accomplish as a musician. I tour quite a bit all over the globe, it is my career, but wasn't always this way. I wanted to be an active touring rock musician, and I made all the choices necessary to get here. It took me about 3 years going from playing in tiny, starving bar bands with their head in the clouds, to touring all over the world in front of 250,000-3 million person crowds with Rob Zombie, Korn, Muse, Foo Fighters, etc. I don't plan on touring like this very long. When I feel it's time to get off the stages, I can choose to write/record, co-produce, work with film industry, etc. I'm far from wealthy, and I'm definitely not famous compared to my peers, but I'm happy to do what I love and am able to pay my bills and have a few nice things.
Some of the bands and musicians from my past are still in the same boat chasing the dream, which in reality, has been their tail. Everyone has their own way of working in the biz, but it just makes me squirm when I see the huge amount of failure due to the way they are trying to manage their way up. A lot of the time, it makes absolutely no sense to a business that is about revenue and profit margin. I see some of those examples cited right here in this thread. They spend tons of money, time, and wasted effort concentrating on things that have no impact on really getting them to a better place. I always offer suggestions to help them, but for some unknown reason, they are very stubborn to listen to my advise. At that point all I can do I wish them luck
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kurtsstuff
Member
Played all the clubs on the strip..We were very good...Didn't have the backing. Would we have made it
with backing?? Who knows but...Poison made it??
with backing?? Who knows but...Poison made it??
overthemountain
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Probably had the talent back in the day, but didn't have the balls to move to a more major market and pursue it full time.
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spguitar
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spguitar
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WhammybarAllstar":ozf6s9xz said:
This is basically my ultimate dream. Glad someone on here is experiencing it right now. I think it's gonna take me getting away from Mississippi to achieve this one.
diezelduder
Well-known member
heroin, no really