Diezel VH4 changes over the years
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Ventura
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[Changes] Mostly gain structures and compression. Further to this, the original was the Blueface, a 6L6 format circuit, then came the Silverface, with a bias switch to incorporate both 6L6 and EL34. Outside of some caps and resistors (I'm assuming), this is it. Personally, I like the latest iteration of the VH4 as its Channel 3 is noticeably different than the earlier version. As is 4, and I think, unless I'm tone deaf 1 is slightly crisper and 2 a little more gritty. Could be wrong. But overall, it seems as though the later version offer more "more" if that makes any sense.Louder":1yw4g3cl said:
Uncle
cardinal
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Haven't played a '12, but I owned an '07 and played an '11 (and I currently own a '98, but that seems unimportant to your question). The '11 seemed more dynamic (even Channel four cleaned up with the guitar's volume knob and soft picking). But very very similar. Difference get more apparent wih some of the older amps (bluefaces).
Peter Diezel
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Please let me know if you like it
Mailman1971
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Yeah.........my next amp purchase.
Another VH4S!!
Might be a while....but thats my next amp.
Another VH4S!!
Might be a while....but thats my next amp.
Louder
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Peter Diezel":1zrogn5z said:
I got it a day early! All I can say is: WOW. This amp is a monster! I really cannot believe the amount of gain the amp has and how tight it sounds. I only got to play it for about an hour so far, but here are my first impressions:
The VH4 did not seem to like being paired with the M75 loaded Orange PPC412 I have. I found it to be really dark sounding and overall just kind of wrong (to my ears of course). But as soon as I plugged it into my Mesa Boogie 4x12 (oversize) the VH4 came to life!
Of the four channels, channel three was my favorite (no surprise there from what I have read on the forum). Channel two was very cool, it definitely surprised me and I found myself switching back to it and really loving it for chords and bluesy riffs. Channel two was very clear as well, you could really hear every note in the chord, it was great for Van Halen! Channel four was just insane - I could not believe the amount of gain available making pinch harmonics and Floyd tricks really sing. Channel one was interesting, I don't think I would use it for cleans, I found it sounded good with my big box Clark Gainster and a Tube Screamer when I had the channel gain near max, but I don't see me using it much.
I was wondering when I bought it if it would lead me to sell my CAA PT100. After playing the VH4 I plugged into the PT and it really had a different feel and sound. I love the PT100 and it is not going anywhere. I am very happy to be able to own both, the VH4 is really its own world and very different to the point that I can easily justify owning both.
In short the VH4 lived up to everything people are saying. It is a MONSTER amp with unreal gain and it is so tight and focused that I'm going to have to up my practicing!
PETER YOU ARE A GOD!!!!!!
Here is family photo with the VH4:
Peter Diezel
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Please tell me the serial number of the amp and
maybe we can get some more presence and less
compression out of it.
maybe we can get some more presence and less
compression out of it.
Yo Louder, you do know what the "VH" stands for in front of the "4", right?Louder":2bhmu28c said:
It's kind of similar to what "ESX" stands for following "VMware".
Ventura
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Super stoked for you Louder - this is great news... What is the Mesa loaded with, V30s? Great stuff - and don't forget about the loop in the VH4, it's one of if not the best in the industry. Takes everything nicely, especially a delay or 'verb to fatten up solo playing.Louder":vt3pp4zo said:
Welcome aboard
Louder
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Ventura":34ltvb38 said:Super stoked for you Louder - this is great news... What is the Mesa loaded with, V30s? Great stuff - and don't forget about the loop in the VH4, it's one of if not the best in the industry. Takes everything nicely, especially a delay or 'verb to fatten up solo playing.Louder":34ltvb38 said:
Welcome aboard
Thanks! The Mesa does have V30's and I may add a Diezel cab in the near future if I can make the finances work. I use a Dr Scientist RRR in the loop on the plate setting and it sounds awesome. I use it for my PT100 as well. I am thinking of getting a Wet Reverb for the VH4, I definitely like a touch of 'verb.
LOL!!! Good try, but not even in the ballpark...Louder":2tpg86xv said:
Ventura
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You'll find the loop on the VH4 incredible - totally dead silent and perfect for reverb and DD, or AD. The V mics super well too - just need to lay off the gain when close mic'ing. What's it loaded with as far as power tubes? EL34s? And stock high grade chinese 12AX7 preamps? Just checking - I've run the gamut of different glass in my Diezels and usually fall back on the usual suspects.Louder":1owhkiqz said:Ventura":1owhkiqz said:Super stoked for you Louder - this is great news... What is the Mesa loaded with, V30s? Great stuff - and don't forget about the loop in the VH4, it's one of if not the best in the industry. Takes everything nicely, especially a delay or 'verb to fatten up solo playing.Louder":1owhkiqz said:
Welcome aboard
Thanks! The Mesa does have V30's and I may add a Diezel cab in the near future if I can make the finances work. I use a Dr Scientist RRR in the loop on the plate setting and it sounds awesome. I use it for my PT100 as well. I am thinking of getting a Wet Reverb for the VH4, I definitely like a touch of 'verb.
Keep at 'er, and again, super stoked for ya!!
Uncle Mo