Alot of gas causing pickup talk lately!

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I love the mcp detroiter which i have put back in my SG, as its the perfect pickup in that guitar. I love JB's in my les paul studio, and ive heard that the mcp angel dust, AND the garuda are better versions of the jb.....
Can anyone tell me how these two are alike different?? Would love to experiment with different versions of the one pickup that seems to keep coming back in my life.
 
Speaking of Gas...The Detroiter is the pup that I really want to put in my LP Studio on recommendations from friends of mine. But I am not a fan of the JB...



mchn13":8lsy36ma said:
I love the mcp detroiter which i have put back in my SG, as its the perfect pickup in that guitar. I love JB's in my les paul studio, and ive heard that the mcp angel dust, AND the garuda are better versions of the jb.....
Can anyone tell me how these two are alike different?? Would love to experiment with different versions of the one pickup that seems to keep coming back in my life.
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mchn13":1mu3nmsy said:
I love the mcp detroiter which i have put back in my SG, as its the perfect pickup in that guitar. I love JB's in my les paul studio, and ive heard that the mcp angel dust, AND the garuda are better versions of the jb.....
Can anyone tell me how these two are alike different?? Would love to experiment with different versions of the one pickup that seems to keep coming back in my life.
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Thanks! I'm really glad your getting on with the Detroiter. Muscle and attitude make a mean tone : )The Garuda has a touch more gain than the Angel dust and a silkier high end (softer, or rounder). In comparison to each, the Angel dust compared to the Garuda is very similar in regards to the low mid vocalness that they both project with the Angel Dust being a touch dryer in character (not as wet sounding, or spongy/less compression) and has one notch more in the high end department than the Garuda. In summary, the Garuda has a little more gain and is softer in the highs than the Angel Dust. The Big Brother of the Angel Dust. The Coil size is nearly identical in terms of shape and how they express the focus of the note being they are 3/4 full bobbins with the exact same core components/magnets/bobbins/plate material. Very very close in size. The Angel Dust uses custom spec'd 43 Plain Enamel wire (dryer characteristics with the enamel), the Garuda uses custom spec'd 44 Formvar wire (rather silkier, or darker sounding insulation which in design you actually need to work at bringing the high end back).
I actually made the Garuda for a buddy as a request. The beginning inspiration was an older model from manufacturers you are speaking of for your lespaul with the ideal of "nullifying" the stringent high end and increasing the low end response-It's different for sure,. The older Jb's used Poly-nylon/Polyethylene whereas the Garuda's use the vintage formvar insulation wire, and custom metals differing also. As far as "better" I will not comment :lol: :LOL: They are not on the site, and will be offered very shortly with a huge new selection as well.

Kind Regards.

Peace. Wade
 
I'm looking forward to some info on all the newer pickups (I guess when the website gets updated, or maybe I'll just call Wade). I've been wanting another MCP for a while now ever since getting my Afwayu.
 
Sinnerx96":36uf1vzh said:
I'm looking forward to some info on all the newer pickups (I guess when the website gets updated, or maybe I'll just call Wade). I've been wanting another MCP for a while now ever since getting my Afwayu.
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Thanks man. I appreciate it. There are quite a few new models and most have been in development for almost 3 yrs and after getting some reviews of them from other artists, I feel comfortable with the new models for release. The revised website and new items go hand and hand and has been quite a challenge and well overdue. Thanks again for your patience : )

Peace,
Wade- MCP

** Also wanted to note the Jb was and still is one of my favorite production pickups of all time. Never knock the Jb!
 
I suffer from having-bright-guitarightis so once again i am looking for something to beef my highs up. I don't need it beefed up necessarily across the board (bass for example) but I do need something to tame highs. Anything like that?

AS for JB's, I dig em in darker guitars, they sound awesome. How can i get that sound in a brighter wood/guitar is the real question here. I'm guessing it will have to be something with an alnico II.
 
thefyn said:
Speaking of Gas...The Detroiter is the pup that I really want to put in my LP Studio on recommendations from friends of mine. But I am not a fan of the JB...

The detroiter is awesome. Seems to have more output than it says it does. I would put it in my les paul, but it adds just the right amount of ass to my SG. Nothing else has sounded that good in that guitar. I want to try something different from mcp now, and since i have a jb in there now, figured i would get something with that kind of output.
Thanks for the info Wade; sounds like the garuda is what im after. Can you order them now??
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mchn13":3hnbk11c said:
thefyn":3hnbk11c said:
Speaking of Gas...The Detroiter is the pup that I really want to put in my LP Studio on recommendations from friends of mine. But I am not a fan of the JB...

The detroiter is awesome. Seems to have more output than it says it does. I would put it in my les paul, but it adds just the right amount of ass to my SG. Nothing else has sounded that good in that guitar. I want to try something different from mcp now, and since i have a jb in there now, figured i would get something with that kind of output.
Thanks for the info Wade; sounds like the garuda is what im after. Can you order them now??
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No Problem. Sure. I don't have the official page up yet, but I can get you going. The Detroiter is a chameleon considering the amount of raw punch it has. The last 2 Overkill albums were recorded exclusively with them, and is a head scratcher sometimes because it does so many other things extremely well too, I often think it gets underplayed somewhat as a lone wolf metal head. Send me an e-mail with your details/woods/etc and I'll get you straitened out and we will go over a few other things. I really personally like the Garuda's in les pauls a hell of a lot, and was pretty shocked when I proto'd them in some strats with and without Floyds also. Very very rounded mouthpiece : 0
Peace,
Wade (motorcitypickups@yahoo.com)
 
Kapo_Polenton":3anoxmbd said:
I suffer from having-bright-guitarightis so once again i am looking for something to beef my highs up. I don't need it beefed up necessarily across the board (bass for example) but I do need something to tame highs. Anything like that?

AS for JB's, I dig em in darker guitars, they sound awesome. How can i get that sound in a brighter wood/guitar is the real question here. I'm guessing it will have to be something with an alnico II.
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Are you needing a darker pickup with less highs, or a darker pickup with more highs and less bass? Just want to understand correctly. Not necessarily an Alnico 2. There are lots of things we can do to combat overly high guitars... Just let me know.
 
I have both pickups the Angel Dust A5 and Garuda!! Wade is dead on in his description for both. I also just received a few days ago a slightly hotter Angel Dust for my Charvel single humbucker and an underwound Angel Dust. The Angel Dust A5 is my favorite MCP so far. The Hot Head is another one I will have in a few weeks.
 
metalmaniac93":1cxuhgd0 said:
I have both pickups the Angel Dust and Garuda!! Wade is dead on in his description for both. I also just received a few days ago a slightly hotter Angel Dust for my Charvel single humbucker and another standard Angel Dust as a just in case pickup since this is my fav MCP so far. The Hot Head is another one I will have in a few weeks.
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Thanks R.F! I just put the Garuda through the 74' Marshall and a Hoochie mama O.D- Ridiculous!! Sounds like Tool on Crack!
 
MotorCityPickUps":okm8atfj said:
metalmaniac93":okm8atfj said:
I have both pickups the Angel Dust and Garuda!! Wade is dead on in his description for both. I also just received a few days ago a slightly hotter Angel Dust for my Charvel single humbucker and another standard Angel Dust as a just in case pickup since this is my fav MCP so far. The Hot Head is another one I will have in a few weeks.
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Thanks R.F! I just put the Garuda through the 74' Marshall and a Hoochie mama O.D- Ridiculous!! Sounds like Tool on Crack!
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Wade, sounds awesome!!! It is ridiculous sounding for sure.
 
Are you needing a darker pickup with less highs, or a darker pickup with more highs and less bass? Just want to understand correctly. Not necessarily an Alnico 2. There are lots of things we can do to combat overly high guitars... Just let me know.
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I need something a bit warmer. Two of my guitars , a michael kelly Les Paul copy and an alder/koa top strat just have this real spank to them. I don't necessarily like overly thick, but i need less highs on the bottom 3 light strings. They just cut way too much and sound too thin. I've had to lower my air zone in the les paul copy and the lead tones are still not quite what i want. That dark alder strat i have with the JB is awesome though. It has kind of set my ears now so I need my guitars to be in that same sonic ballpark. I think the best way to describe it is smooth highs but not too loose bass. I still like tighter rythm tones and don't want something with a huge bass side like a tone zone type of pup.I have alnico II duncans in an epiphone that sound great and this is why i keep thinking i need alnico II and the only option seems to be a JB with alnico II mag or custom custom.. 36th annivesary was wayyyyyy too spanky for me with these guitars. I really think it comes down to wood type. Spanky guitars are a bitch to work with!
 
MotorCityPickUps":23etq4tm said:
mchn13":23etq4tm said:
thefyn":23etq4tm said:
Speaking of Gas...The Detroiter is the pup that I really want to put in my LP Studio on recommendations from friends of mine. But I am not a fan of the JB...

The detroiter is awesome. Seems to have more output than it says it does. I would put it in my les paul, but it adds just the right amount of ass to my SG. Nothing else has sounded that good in that guitar. I want to try something different from mcp now, and since i have a jb in there now, figured i would get something with that kind of output.
Thanks for the info Wade; sounds like the garuda is what im after. Can you order them now??
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No Problem. Sure. I don't have the official page up yet, but I can get you going. The Detroiter is a chameleon considering the amount of raw punch it has. The last 2 Overkill albums were recorded exclusively with them, and is a head scratcher sometimes because it does so many other things extremely well too, I often think it gets underplayed somewhat as a lone wolf metal head. Send me an e-mail with your details/woods/etc and I'll get you straitened out and we will go over a few other things. I really personally like the Garuda's in les pauls a hell of a lot, and was pretty shocked when I proto'd them in some strats with and without Floyds also. Very very rounded mouthpiece : 0
Peace,
Wade (motorcitypickups@yahoo.com)
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I emailed you Wade. It sounds like the garuda would be a good match for my les paul, while theyre known for being chunky guitars, mines fairly bright!
 
Kapo_Polenton":359tbs94 said:
Are you needing a darker pickup with less highs, or a darker pickup with more highs and less bass? Just want to understand correctly. Not necessarily an Alnico 2. There are lots of things we can do to combat overly high guitars... Just let me know.
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I need something a bit warmer. Two of my guitars , a michael kelly Les Paul copy and an alder/koa top strat just have this real spank to them. I don't necessarily like overly thick, but i need less highs on the bottom 3 light strings. They just cut way too much and sound too thin. I've had to lower my air zone in the les paul copy and the lead tones are still not quite what i want. That dark alder strat i have with the JB is awesome though. It has kind of set my ears now so I need my guitars to be in that same sonic ballpark. I think the best way to describe it is smooth highs but not too loose bass. I still like tighter rythm tones and don't want something with a huge bass side like a tone zone type of pup.I have alnico II duncans in an epiphone that sound great and this is why i keep thinking i need alnico II and the only option seems to be a JB with alnico II mag or custom custom.. 36th annivesary was wayyyyyy too spanky for me with these guitars. I really think it comes down to wood type. Spanky guitars are a bitch to work with!
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For your LP copy, I'd try a underwound Detroiter with a custom A2 magnet. This is a tight pickup to begin with in the lows. This should definitely keep the lows tight, but ever so slightly round the highs just right. For the Strat, I'd roll a Black Iron A2 and be done with that. This pickup was designed for an A2 magnet. There is also alot to play into strats with bridges, gauge strings, etc so these can be a challenge to personalize. Your absolutely right, wood type and overall tone of the individual instrument play a roll in choices for your pickup.
 
mchn13":xqgajuzr said:
MotorCityPickUps":xqgajuzr said:
mchn13":xqgajuzr said:
thefyn":xqgajuzr said:
Speaking of Gas...The Detroiter is the pup that I really want to put in my LP Studio on recommendations from friends of mine. But I am not a fan of the JB...

The detroiter is awesome. Seems to have more output than it says it does. I would put it in my les paul, but it adds just the right amount of ass to my SG. Nothing else has sounded that good in that guitar. I want to try something different from mcp now, and since i have a jb in there now, figured i would get something with that kind of output.
Thanks for the info Wade; sounds like the garuda is what im after. Can you order them now??
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No Problem. Sure. I don't have the official page up yet, but I can get you going. The Detroiter is a chameleon considering the amount of raw punch it has. The last 2 Overkill albums were recorded exclusively with them, and is a head scratcher sometimes because it does so many other things extremely well too, I often think it gets underplayed somewhat as a lone wolf metal head. Send me an e-mail with your details/woods/etc and I'll get you straitened out and we will go over a few other things. I really personally like the Garuda's in les pauls a hell of a lot, and was pretty shocked when I proto'd them in some strats with and without Floyds also. Very very rounded mouthpiece : 0
Peace,
Wade (motorcitypickups@yahoo.com)
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I emailed you Wade. It sounds like the garuda would be a good match for my les paul, while theyre known for being chunky guitars, mines fairly bright!
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Yes, got it!. Your absolutely right. This model is going to do extremely well. I just got a few more reviews in and its money!!
I'm really stoked to get this one out there!!
 
Laura":idzhpwgm said:
The Detroiter is bad ass. Love it in my Silverburst LP.
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LOL. Laura! And you heard that live! Still cracks me up, after the show you said " He was dddRunk!"
 
Thanks for the info and suggestions.. I'm going to try an borrow a buddy's custom custom and see if the A2 is the ticket. I noticed the detroiter has an A5 on the site description though, is underwound with an A2 a custom order type thing? The black iron might be the ticket for the strat after that. It is the absolute worst offender.
 
MotorCityPickUps":2kzb3ioz said:
Laura":2kzb3ioz said:
The Detroiter is bad ass. Love it in my Silverburst LP.
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LOL. Laura! And you heard that live! Still cracks me up, after the show you said " He was dddRunk!"
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Good lord. Proof that I need to lay off the sauce. Pretty sure I meant to say, "I"... I got silly that night but they were awesome.
 
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