Does Anyone Else Get the Feeling that

[Thumbpicker]

Significant = meaningful, notable and it is relative. So for me 50k is significant. In the case of millions of rapes, yeah, I think it’s significant.

In accounting things can be material due to percentage (normally > 5% to 10% depending on what it is) but they can also be material by nature ie. eg. It includes any item that could be as a result of serious mismanagement, fraud, illegality or irregularity or intentional misstatement or misrepresentation etc.

So you could argue getting 1 in 20 people convicted that are innocent is material by nature and it is on the threshold of materiality quantitatively as well under the 5% rule.

 

[rsm]

well the number of rapes are increasing due to the influx of illegal invaders; so that's another data point. IIRC, in Germany, 6 out of 10 violent crimes are committed by non-German migrants, could be higher...haven't looked up the statistics; then there are the UK grooming gangs that went on for decades...probably still continue...yet the borders are wide open for the invaders and their food, shelter, and medical needs are paid for by the taxpayers who don't get any of the same benefits for free, including veterans.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

which study? 5% of rapes result in pregnancy (1 in 20) is hardly significant percentage. At 20%+ you'd have a point regarding significant, but that is still less than half of all rapes; that means 95%+ of all rapes don't result in pregnancy. Maths is simple

The study that I am assuming you got the 5% number from. The one that is almost 20 years old and only studied like 4,000 people

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I think 5% is significant but I also think in reality it’s probably a fraction of that. Still not good though.

I think it is likely much more than that. Numbers vary, but most any study shows that a significant number of rapes are not even reported, often the majority.

 

[rsm]

The study that I am assuming you got the 5% number from. The one that is almost 20 years old and only studied like 4,000 people

may want to go back and see what I posted, the study I posted was dated January 2024.

if you have a better study, you haven't posted it, so you're going on your opinions and feelings, as usual?

 

[rsm]

I think it is likely much more than that. Numbers vary, but most any study shows that a significant number of rapes are not even reported, often the majority.

if they're not reported, did they happen? No investigation, no results, no suspects, no charges,...believe all women?

 

[311boogieman]

...a significant number of rapes are not even reported,...

I believe that.

How significant would be the question.

 

[Thumbpicker]

I believe people being people regardless of their sex that:
- a lot of rapes are not reported
- some of them are made up because women are human, can have agendas and sin like men;
- and, most of them are probably real.

Working out what category each one falls into is the problem.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Not all rape is violent. Not to mention not all rape is reported, so again, pulling a stat out of the air is pointless.

But back to the original actual point, anyone being forced to go through a pregnancy that was a result of rape, no matter how you choose to skew the data, is absolute bullshit.

Are you fucking kidding me ? Absolutely all rape is violent. Forcing someone to have sex regardless of physical violence is inherently violent. You if all fucking people should know that.

 

[311boogieman]

Are you fucking kidding me ? Absolutely all rape is violent. Forcing someone to have sex regardless of physical violence is inherently violent. You if all fucking people should know that.

I think what he meant, or how I read it, might be those cases where she wanted it and maybe even encouraged and enjoyed it and then yelled rape after the fact for whatever reason. That could work in reverse I suppose too.

 

[Bad Brain]

Are you fucking kidding me ? Absolutely all rape is violent. Forcing someone to have sex regardless of physical violence is inherently violent. You if all fucking people should know that.

There also exists non-violent or coercive rape — threatening employment or other benefits, psychological assault/manipulation, blackmail, etc.

 

[harddriver]

it's down to agency and basic biology. Most men would have sex with most women; women by nature are more selective. Knowing that, and the fact that women control access to sex, and bear the consequences more significantly than the man, etc., means the woman bears more responsibility for the outcome of intercourse. As I stated, if she required the man to use a condom, most would comply; if she didn't care, some men would hit it raw.

 

[harddriver]

 

[Floyd Eye]

There also exists non-violent or coercive rape — threatening employment or other benefits, psychological assault/manipulation, blackmail, etc.

Nah dude, forcing someone to fuck you is violent.

Perry Farrell said all sex is violent.

 

[rsm]

but you can get away with it in Germany if you're an invader; and if native Germans object they will be arrested...