Redefining Language

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

Seemed pretty vague

They're just trolling or looking to justify a position they hold and had "moved the goal posts" several times.
The whole thing comes down to the point of the thread for me.
Language and attempting to change it to fit narratives and agendas.
Something that obviously went over their head and instead became offended by the notion, yet too stupid to realize they were playing along.

Do biologists, geneticists, etc... sit around and refer to humans as mutants? No, not likely on the regular.
I referred to neuroscience as one must have a very good grasp of biology prior to that point, therefore it's one of if not the best source of reputable information. While the particular link is not all inclusive to every degree, it sums it up in short order.
To which I followed with the term mutant. Which is 100% correct.

If someone doesn't like it or feels like using terms such as feigning because they're either too slow understand or too prideful to look past their fantasy bullshit, it's really not my problem.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

if you have a Y, you're a guy.

So men’s room?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

They're just trolling or looking to justify a position they hold and had "moved the goal posts" several times.
The whole thing comes down to the point of the thread for me.
Language and attempting to change it to fit narratives and agendas.
Something that obviously went over their head and instead became offended by the notion, yet too stupid to realize they were playing along.

Do biologists, geneticists, etc... sit around and refer to humans as mutants? No, not likely on the regular.
I referred to neuroscience as one must have a very good grasp of biology prior to that point, therefore it's one of if not the best source of reputable information. While the particular link is not all inclusive to every degree, it sums it up in short order.
To which I followed with the term mutant. Which is 100% correct.

If someone doesn't like it or feels like using terms such as feigning because they're either too slow understand or too prideful to look past their fantasy bullshit, it's really not my problem.

Do you think mutants should be allowed to compete in professional sports or Olympics?

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

Do you think mutants should be allowed to compete in professional sports or Olympics?

Yes. I feel that leagues need to be formed for specific types of humans, like I have said many times over. It's the fault of the Olympics that it has yet to happen, and just because there are loopholes that allow for the current rules, doesn't make it any less unsportsmanlike on the behalf of the individuals taking advantage.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Yes. I feel that leagues need to be formed for specific types of humans, like I have said many times over. It's the fault of the Olympics that it has yet to happen, and just because there are loopholes that allow for the current rules, doesn't make it any less unsportsmanlike on the behalf of the individuals taking advantage.

So there should be a league just for mutants?

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

So there should be a league just for mutants?

All inclusive coed leagues that everyone is aware of what they're getting into and/or individual leagues to meet the needs of handicaps for others. It's not rocket surgery, and it's not "twenty years ago when genetic testing was unreliable."

 

[rsm]

So there should be a league just for mutants?

there is, it's called Marvel X-Men.

but at an estimated 5% of the global human population, those born with a true biological hermaphrodite disorder would be a small number vs all those with mental disorders that believe "gender is a construct", they are whatever they choose to be at any given time - they should be in therapy, medical treatment or in asylums.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

All inclusive coed leagues that everyone is aware of what they're getting into and/or individual leagues to meet the needs of handicaps for others. It's not rocket surgery, and it's not "twenty years ago when genetic testing was unreliable."

Personally I think creating a 3rd professional sport league (4th or you count para Olympics) for all sports is not feasible and will never happen, but thank you for a clear answer. It’s not rocket surgery, it’s just a pipe dream.

I’m curious then what you think of the ramifications of creating such leagues though. Do all athletes need to undergo genetic testing to sign up for leagues? Who keeps all this information and who are they allowed to share it with? What age should they start testing? Seems like a nightmare for everyone involved

 

[Dan Gleesak]

there is, it's called Marvel X-Men.

but at an estimated 5% of the global human population, those born with a true biological hermaphrodite disorder would be a small number vs all those with mental disorders that believe "gender is a construct", they are whatever they choose to be at any given time - they should be in therapy, medical treatment or in asylums.

Well it was a good conversation while it lasted

 

[rsm]

Well it was a good conversation while it lasted

well reinforcing the delusions of the mentally ill doesn't help them or society.

it's fine, islam will fix the delusions; it's already started in Western Europe.

 

[JTyson]

Meh, I still say if you have a dick you should not be allowed to beat the shit out of girls…
Even if you think your one of them.
The pussies in charge should be replaced with people who have functioning brains…
This is not a space shuttle, it’s a matchbox car people ?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

well reinforcing the delusions of the mentally ill doesn't help them or society.

it's fine, islam will fix the delusions; it's already started in Western Europe.

It wasn’t really the topic if discussion though

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

Personally I think creating a 3rd professional sport league (4th or you count para Olympics) for all sports is not feasible and will never happen, but thank you for a clear answer. It’s not rocket surgery, it’s just a pipe dream.

I’m curious then what you think of the ramifications of creating such leagues though. Do all athletes need to undergo genetic testing to sign up for leagues? Who keeps all this information and who are they allowed to share it with? What age should they start testing? Seems like a nightmare for everyone involved

I would agree if it were decades ago, but testing is now both cheap and reliable. I think a personal doctor is viable if someone doesn't want to deal with a league doctor where they don't feel like sharing their personal information, but the doctor has to sign off on a genetics test, not a "this person identifies as". I think any and all sports that have any financial incentives involved should be mandatory for. Kids, not so much unless potential scholarships are involved.

Here's a nightmare for you; a woman spends her entire life training for something only to lose to someone who is not a woman. Someone who may have competed in men's sports prior to that point and went nowhere. She may have lost a scholarship. She may get deported because she can't afford school on her own and loses her visa. She may have lost money. These things are real and have happened.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I would agree if it were decades ago, but testing is now both cheap and reliable. I think a personal doctor is viable if someone doesn't want to deal with a league doctor where they don't feel like sharing their personal information, but the doctor has to sign off on a genetics test, not a "this person identifies as". I think any and all sports that have any financial incentives involved should be mandatory for. Kids, not so much unless potential scholarships are involved.

Here's a nightmare for you; a woman spends her entire life training for something only to lose to someone who is not a woman. Someone who may have competed in men's sports prior to that point and went nowhere. She may have lost a scholarship. She may get deported because she can't afford school on her own and loses her visa. She may have lost money. These things are real and have happened.

I’m sure that has happened somewhere on this planet but let’s me clear that the scenario you mentioned is absolutely not what happened in this Olympics.

But personally, I am not for normalizing genetic testing and databases. To me, “mandatory” vaccines seem like a splash in the ocean compared to that. There are easier ways to regulate than creating new leagues for people. The rules in the Olympics were clear to everyone who competed. Don’t like my opinion? Her competitors said the same thing.

 

[7704A]

(Hope original quoted 2nd edition is okay with you since you seem to be so fixated on it ) :

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK10943/

Eh, sometimes things get dropped or mangled between editions, which is why I submitted it for approval. Thanks for the link, it looks like it's pretty much identical to the 3rd edition I skimmed.

 

[7704A]

Intersex as I learned it was originally used for organisms that either naturally (as a species, not an individual) have reproductive organs of both sexes and/or could naturally change sex. Certain species of frogs are a good example of this.

Sounds like a good premise for a Rig Trek episode.

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

I’m sure that has happened somewhere on this planet but let’s me clear that the scenario you mentioned is absolutely not what happened in this Olympics.

But personally, I am not for normalizing genetic testing and databases. To me, “mandatory” vaccines seem like a splash in the ocean compared to that. There are easier ways to regulate than creating new leagues for people. The rules in the Olympics were clear to everyone who competed. Don’t like my opinion? Her competitors said the same thing.

Uh huh . You think people are lining up to be cancelled or have their lives destroyed by the woke? Especially women? Mandatory vaccines to all of society are a splash in the bucket compared to a genetic test that someone can pass on by not involving themself? Did someone say anything about a database? You think there are no financial prizes or incentives in the Olympics?

Why do y'all go out of your look for things to argue against? Especially when there is no actual basis for it. Do you get off on it or is it simply some sort of ego thing to play or pretend to play devil's advocate with every single thing? "Let's be clear" As if you know something the rest of us don't, yet like the other fool you pretend things haven't already been said. See post #204, see post # any of them. You're creating fake stances and making it out as if all of the things haven't been discussed over and over. It's tiring. It's obnoxious. You're not a woke hero. You're just an easily swayed asshole that has no problem moving against all rational thought as long you can see/hear yourself talk.

 

[japetus]

Meh, I still say if you have a dick you should not be allowed to beat the shit out of girls…
Even if you think your one of them.
The pussies in charge should be replaced with people who have functioning brains…
This is not a space shuttle, it’s a matchbox car people ?

I simply cannot fathom punching a woman as hard as I could in the face. It would have to be a life preserving situation.

 

[Thumbpicker]

Uh huh . You think people are lining up to be cancelled or have their lives destroyed by the woke? Especially women? Mandatory vaccines to all of society are a splash in the bucket compared to a genetic test that someone can pass on by not involving themself? Did someone say anything about a database? You think there are no financial prizes or incentives in the Olympics?

Why do y'all go out of your look for things to argue against? Especially when there is no actual basis for it. Do you get off on it or is it simply some sort of ego thing to play or pretend to play devil's advocate with every single thing? "Let's be clear" As if you know something the rest of us don't, yet like the other fool you pretend things haven't already been said. See post #204, see post # any of them. You're creating fake stances and making it out as if all of the things haven't been discussed over and over. It's tiring. It's obnoxious. You're not a woke hero. You're just an easily swayed asshole that has no problem moving against all rational thought as long you can see/hear yourself talk.

I don't agree with him this time but I defend his right to say it. He's still a good guy in my books.

 

[NowYou'rePlayingWithPower]

I don't agree with him this time but I defend his right to say it. He's still a good guy in my books.

He can say whatever he wants. No one is stopping him from making himself look like an ass. Just pointing it out in case he's literally that unaware of himself. He also doesn't believe most of it. He's just saying it so he can argue. No other reason.