Baltic birch vs Baltic pine 4 x 12 cabinets

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I was reading about the EVH 4x12(which I own one) and it said it made from Baltic pine and say a Soldano 4x12 cabinet is made of Baltic Birch I’m I missing something here?
 
Pine is what original soldano cabs were made of before he sold to BAD. Sounds like fender did it to save costs though. Birch is expensive and heavy to move around
 
My EVH 4x12 cabinet sound amazing even over some of the vintage Marshall cabs that I’ve owned.
 
So pre bad Soldano 4x12 cabinets were made out of pine I would like to get more info to be sure
 
I have a Cornford 4x12 in pine. It’s beautiful. Martin Kidd the designer was of the belief it tamed harsh frequencies in V30s.
 
I prefer Birch... for both sound and solid construction.

Pine is a softwood.
Birch is a hardwood.

The only reason to choose Pine is that it is cheaper and weighs less. Pine cabs have a weaker, softer, flabby bass sound.
Baltic Birch is superior for tone and construction.
 
Generally speaking, pine is preferred in amps like vintage fenders and voxes because you want the low end to "breathe" and be a bit looser and richer

birch is generally preferred in marshall style and heavier cabinets because it cuts the low end off a little bit and makes it a cunt hair tighter

These are just general rules of engagement, or the "common wisdom" as it were though. I've heard cabs that sound great of either one, it depends on other factors as well. Baffles, size, etc.
 
DanTravis62 said:
Generally speaking, pine is preferred in amps like vintage fenders and voxes because you want the low end to "breathe" and be a bit looser and richer

birch is generally preferred in marshall style and heavier cabinets because it cuts the low end off a little bit and makes it a cunt hair tighter

These are just general rules of engagement, or the "common wisdom" as it were though. I've heard cabs that sound great of either one, it depends on other factors as well. Baffles, size, etc.
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This personally I like Pine..... it's lighter..... and it smells nice too ^_^
 
DanTravis62 said:
Generally speaking, pine is preferred in amps like vintage fenders and voxes because you want the low end to "breathe" and be a bit looser and richer

birch is generally preferred in marshall style and heavier cabinets because it cuts the low end off a little bit and makes it a cunt hair tighter

These are just general rules of engagement, or the "common wisdom" as it were though. I've heard cabs that sound great of either one, it depends on other factors as well. Baffles, size, etc.
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You don’t see bass cabs made of pine anything and there’s a good reason for it just as you describe. I tend to stay clear of any softwood cabinets as they act like hardwood cabs on hollow stages which I hated. Makes guitar tones sound thin like there’s a natural high pass filter on at all times.

I never cared for the 5150 iii cabinets and now I know why.
 
there a different EVH 4x12. the budget (iconic series) are made of mdf. the more expensive ones are made of a birch pine mixture.

for normal speakers the back and sides should be stiff. Since a electric guitar is not hifi, but an instrument, there are no rules, all just a matter of taste.
 
I have a Princeton Reverb Reissue 112 Bordeaux with Pine/Birch cab......... with a Jenson Alnico...


Thing sounds and smells great to me :dunno:
 
The real answer here is oak. Oak cabs sound better than either of the other two.
 
Original Soldano cab specs below. No mention of pine, Baltic Birch plywood construction. The EVH cabs are made with cheaper plywood that alternates layers of Birch & Pine. Many of the less expensive cab builders like Avatar use the same plywood. And the Birch layers are not Baltic Birch. So, much cheaper material for a lower retail price.

The new Soldano straight 4×12” cabinet honors this tradition with unparalleled construction quality and iconic Vintage-30 speakers. Each cabinet is hand crafted in America with unparalleled construction quality and as much attention to detail and quality as the Soldano amplifiers that power them.

Celestion Vintage 30 speakers Celestion’s Vintage 30 sits high among the most revered electric guitar speakers in the world. Originally crafted to deliver the sound of the company’s first alnico-based guitar speakers, they instead delivered a new, signature sound that quickly made them a tonal standard for the decades to come. Today, their vocal midrange, detailed top end, and tight lows are indispensable for thousands of players in every genre imaginable and are the bedrock of the Soldano sound.

Soldano cabinets are handcrafted with pride in the U.S.A. using multi-layered Baltic birch and are backed by a limited lifetime warranty. Heavy-duty 12-gauge speaker wire is soldered between the speaker and terminal, assuring that you capture every ounce of valuable tone.

FEATURES:
-4×12” straight guitar speaker cabinet
-Straight construction offers wider sound dispersion and fits most standard amp heads
-Celestion Vintage 30 guitar speakers
-Baltic birch construction
-Built in the USA
-Wattage: 240 Watts
-Nominal impedance: 16 Ohms
-Dimensions: 28” (W) x 14” (D) x 29” (
 
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Some of the pine cabs I’ve played IME have a richness and warmth to the sound that I haven’t heard in Baltic Birch cabs. You can also hear and feel the cab vibrating a lot more. Whether these are good or bad qualities depends on taste I guess, but I like it for some things and it can create an effect of being more lively. For classic rock or blues this would probably be my preference. Like Dan said though, there are many other factors to consider besides this material difference
 
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