The Jews are trying to start WW III and guess who they'll want to fight it for them ?

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If they aren't a covenant people then they are irrelevant to the events in Revelations. The new Israel is the church. It's a spiritual kingdom, not one built on land stolen from muslims.
It's not irrelevant if it's in the scripture. Clearly God thinks it's important. What you think about it is what is irrelevant.
 
I believe part of Uganda was originally considered as well 🤷‍♂️
They couldn't sell that to ignorant religious jews who still think they have a right to the holy land per God. I guess they never read Deuteronomy. Then again, most religious jews don't study the bible, they study the Talmud which is a collection of rabbinical opinions.

Every year at passover they say "next year in Jerusalem" so it's been ingrained into the layperson's concscience that they have some sort of right to the land when they don't.. They had to make rabbinical judaism because when your temple has been destroyed and it's sacrifices are no longer possible, you have to reinvent your belief system. They claim to painstakingly follow 613 commandments but they can't on account of not having a temple, which is why so many of them seek to rebuild it, which only furthers the conflict since the site is holy to Islam also. It's the most hotly contested 10 acres on the planet.
 
It's not irrelevant if it's in the scripture.
You are cherry picking. They were replaced. The church is the new chosen nation and it is a spiritual kingdom, not an earthly one. I guess most of the bible goes over your head but that is also common among protestants who are tossed this way and that way with timelines, charts, and graphs and a million different ways of interpreting scripture, mostly to their own detriment.
 
You are cherry picking. They were replaced. The church is the new chosen nation and it is a spiritual kingdom, not an earthly one. I guess most of the bible goes over your head but that is also common among protestants who are tossed this way and that way with timelines, charts, and graphs and a million different ways of interpreting scripture, mostly to their own detriment.
I'm not... it's prophecy that will be fulfilled. About the only think I'll concede is it's not always obvous how the prophecy will be fulfilled however it's pretty clear that it talks about Jews repenting and a lot of it centres around Jerusalem.
 
I'm not... it's prophecy that will be fulfilled. About the only think I'll concede is it's not always obvous how the prophecy will be fulfilled however it's pretty clear that it talks about Jews repenting and a lot of it centres around Jerusalem.
I'm familiar with those verses but it doesn't legitimize them as a covenant nation, then or now. Anyone who makes that claim is a liar and a fraud.

Do I think they should be expelled? 100 percent no. I'm not into that river to the sea stuff. Do I think most of their leaders, guys like Netanyahu, should do hard time? Absolutely, because they are a bunch of criminals like most of our leaders who should also be doing time.
 
I'm familiar with those verses but it doesn't legitimize them as a covenant nation, then or now. Anyone who makes that claim is a liar and a fraud.

Do I think they should be expelled? 100 percent no. I'm not into that river to the sea stuff. Do I think most of their leaders, guys like Netanyahu, should do hard time? Absolutely, because they are a bunch of criminals like most of our leaders who should also be doing time.
You're deadset mad. I have not said they are a covenant nation anymore.
 
You're using scripture to justify their presence there when it does not support a jewish state in that region.
Their presence there in the end times is part of Biblical prophecy. I personally justify nothing - I merely point to the scripture.

You can discount the Bible if you like. Your so called church has a tradition of doing that it seems.
 
Their presence there in the end times is part of Biblical prophecy.
If you interpret it that way. Many protestant theologians interpret it as 2 ways to heaven, a way for Christians and a way for jews. You're just making more protestant speculation on end time events.
 
If you interpret it that way. Many protestant theologians interpret it as 2 ways to heaven, a way for Christians and a way for jews. You're just making more protestant speculation on end time events.
I don't speculate as to how it will happen but we can know certain things that the Bible has to say about it.

You keep claiming to know what I believe which bears no resemblance to the reality and putting words in my mouth. I only believe in one way to heaven and I said that the Jews can and do become Christians like the rest of us further up - but again your comprehension skills are terribly lacking. @NowYou'rePlayingWithPower you are so right about him.
 
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
 
Their presence there in the end times is part of Biblical prophecy. I personally justify nothing - I merely point to the scripture.

You can discount the Bible if you like. Your so called church has a tradition of doing that it seems.
I absolutely discount the Bible. I attribute it the same veracity as The National Enquirer. Some nice stories though.
 
Not sure how you get that out of it. It's talking about God's acceptance of you whether you are Jew or not a Jew and whether you are a male or a female. Notice both of those things are a dichotomy. Not a trichotomy or an Octochotomy.
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one..."
 
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one..."
It does not contemplate eight imaginary genders mate. So give it a break. It's talking about biological sex which for most of history was the same as gender until weirdos came along.
 
I don't speculate as to how it will happen but we can know certain things that the Bible has to say about it.

You keep claiming to know what I believe which bears no resemblance to the reality and putting words in my mouth. I only believe in one way to heaven and I said that the Jews can and do become Christians like the rest of us further up - but again your comprehension skills are terribly lacking. @NowYou'rePlayingWithPower you are so right about him.
Please clarify "the rest of us further up" for the less elevated among us.
 
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