Diezel VH4 - How many versions and which is 'best'?

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Based on your description, the one you're asking about is probably the cathode resistor for the input stage. There have been a couple other additional values for that resistor, depending on what else is going on with that first stage in each revision.
It seems like you are the one than can help me. Could I send you a pm here tomorrow?
 
Im not sure if you have succeeded comparing your amp to an older model but i have been looking for someone who would be open to share photos of his newer one. I have an old VH4, im more than glad to take it out from it’s case and take a few photos if we could compare it to your newer one.
My 2023 VH4
 

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Resurrecting an old thread but I’d like to add some thoughts on my 2016 VH4 since it doesn’t seem like there’s much info here about mid 2010s models.

I would describe the head as very balanced, with elements from both older and recent ones.

The amp is not bright nor dark, all tone pots at noon, as well as presence and depth, is a very good starting point for most channels regardless of cabs.

Exceptions are channel 1 and 4. Channel 1 really likes the treble to be cranked up higher, around 3 o clock, to bring out the detail. Channel 4 is very full sounding and will not get fizzy unless you raise both treble and presence significantly. It’s strictly in the “lead channel” territory for me, while I’ve heard that more modern vh4 offer a brighter, more rhythmic oriented channel 4.

As for gain, it definitely has more than the reports I’ve heard about earlier models,

Channel 2 especially can go from old school light crunch around noon, to very dynamic classic rock around 1/2 o clock, to old school hard rock around 3, which doesn’t seem the case on pre 2007 heads.

Hope it helps!
 
I have a 2015 and I agree. I've seen video of latest iterations and mine has less gain on channel 3, just a tad. Mine with the controls at 12 is dark, really dark. Channel 4 is beautiful, liquid, perfect for lead stuff, channel 2 is crispy and sound good boosted, I can't say the same for channel 3.
 
Hey brother They all sound great with some slight differences, Some of the earlier ones have a slightly different tone Lots of guys have the technical reasons why to me they seem slightly dryer and tiny bit less compressed. I have owned a bunch and toured with a few through the years. They are all great my only beef is the american 2005-2006/7ish models. Anything else they all slay and kick ass! Btw the el 34s or 6l6 in my opinion sound better mine now has kt77's and its killer in the studio. It has a slightly more fizzy top end that some people love (In my opinion) Once these blow up (3 years going strong) I'm going 34's You can't go wrong either way. Pappa knows what he's doing, The quality, Sound, and versatility is something special. It's one of those amps you need to play with the boys and here it in the context of the band or a mix to really get it. All the revisions you can get them sounding almost the same by boosting the master and lowering the channels or vice versus, Crank the presence or lower the treble etc. Also man for what it's worth i find the vh4 likes lower output pickups but it all works with this beast.
 
Hey brother They all sound great with some slight differences, Some of the earlier ones have a slightly different tone Lots of guys have the technical reasons why to me they seem slightly dryer and tiny bit less compressed. I have owned a bunch and toured with a few through the years. They are all great my only beef is the american 2005-2006/7ish models. Anything else they all slay and kick ass! Btw the el 34s or 6l6 in my opinion sound better mine now has kt77's and its killer in the studio. It has a slightly more fizzy top end that some people love (In my opinion) Once these blow up (3 years going strong) I'm going 34's You can't go wrong either way. Pappa knows what he's doing, The quality, Sound, and versatility is something special. It's one of those amps you need to play with the boys and here it in the context of the band or a mix to really get it. All the revisions you can get them sounding almost the same by boosting the master and lowering the channels or vice versus, Crank the presence or lower the treble etc. Also man for what it's worth i find the vh4 likes lower output pickups but it all works with this beast.
That’s a good observation. Lots of hi gain amps don’t play well with low output pickups, lots of mesas especially rectos don’t. No issue with the VH4 otoh.
 
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