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VonBonfire
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I think it's just as much a blessing to those who are praying because research has shown people who are more religiously devout have higher life satisfaction than non religious people. This might be why you are so fired up all the time.
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VonBonfire
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I know you're a big science guy, can't you find it in your sacred texts someplace?
Bad Brain
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The growing popularity of "Scientism" in the wake of post-christian USA is really something to behold. At least Christians are honest about their faith.
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VonBonfire
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Except some people deny the same science they cherish when it doesn't agree with an ulterior motive of theirs. Like all humans originating from one pair which is congruent with Torah.
dcburn
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Plenty of examples in these 42 pages...
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How disingenuous. You said there was research backing your claim. Shouldn’t be hard to point me in the right direction. I at least bothered to showed you something that contradicts your statement.
As for the “sacred text” shot, I actually read more than one book when I need information.
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VonBonfire
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If you cared, you'd find it for yourself. But you don't, so you likely won't. So even me taking the time to post it wouldn't be profitable for either of us. If I did take the time, you would perhaps criticize the source or details of the research so it's not some infallible proof, in either of of our worlds tbh. I don't base my faith on it, I only know that I have high life satisfaction thanks to orthodoxy. It doesn't make it all roses though. My life satisfaction is so high I enjoy talking to you and others here and don't feel the need to ramrod anyone with my opinion and I can enjoy hearing other's views even if I don't agree with them.
I actually like to read but my eyes are bad and I can't really afford glasses so I've slacked off the past few years. I was also constructing a home so that was more of a priority. I mostly am drawn to religious books or technical manuals. My friend tells me I should get kindle but I told him kindle doesn't burn as good as real books.
LOL/jk
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Maybe you should pray to god to fix your eyes. ??
Faith moves mountains, does it not?
Seriously though, not being able to afford something like glasses is completely alien to me.
I can’t understand why this country is so anti-healthcare.
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VonBonfire
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I can afford glasses, I'd just rather have icons, prayer books, ammunition, extra animal feed and supplies, 2x6's and building hardware, guitars, motorcycle parts, and other stuff first. I can read I just need intense light, and my place is dark cause it's unfinished. I did read a 500 page book on the Theotokos over the last year in my spare time but I don't have anything on deck right now.Maybe you should pray to god to fix your eyes. ??
Faith moves mountains, does it not?
Seriously though, not being able to afford something like glasses is completely alien to me.
I can’t understand why this country is so anti-healthcare.
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VonBonfire
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I can afford them but my vision isn't bad enough to make them a priority vs something like 2x6's or cedar trim boards. Also, doctors are lame. Some weirdo wants to oggle my eyes sounds like he's got a staring problem. I guess I could get a pair of cheap readers from the store but I only like sunglasses because they are cool, not that pencil pocket four eyes stuff. And I don't want contacts. You gotta be dumb to jam a finger in your eye every morning and evening. Or there is lasik. Let some dude fry my retinas with his erector set laser toy. I don't think so Donnie.
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good to see you
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Monkey Man
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Ah but what's being constructed or indeed is pre-existing, the consciousness, cannot be seen, weighed, measured / quantified and so on.I have to beg to differ on that. Consciousness is constructed in our brains, and our brains have mass (although you might argue some of these guys brains have very little mass)
You're talking about what might create consciousness and I'm talking about the consciousness itself.
It's an age-old conundrum brother. An impasse.
Stripped Rights
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It was indeed. It didn't get much traction but this one makes up for it.
I appreciate that very much bro!
Thank you.
Monkey Man
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Well have to agree to disagree Brother CentristNutz.
You're looking at neurons firing and calling it consciousness. I see an attendant physical process but not the consciousness itself.
Exactly the same thing could be said about life IMHO:
You can measure / photograph / analyse all you like, but can you see the spirit or experience of life? No, only the associated clues.
You can make a robot as accurately as you like, but will you actually create life?
It's that impasse I mentioned...
Stripped Rights
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And IIRC when you stop performing certain tasks regularly (like playing guitar) those pathways will disappear or change because they're not considered important anymore.
Monkey Man
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Oh I know exactly where you're coming from brother.
As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree. No biggie.
Man does not walk on his legs (neurons firing / the physical evidence), but on his will. Love, passion, emotions, sense of humour...
Sounds like good design to me.
Updating the physical to best accommodate the spirit's intent.
