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[killertone]

Actually since he has a studio I think some will do it. I have a client in Frisco who offered me this 2 years ago....he bought the amp. I would like some recordings (above average) done on my amp. As soon as I am done with this one and demo it for a guy, Ill get in touch. I also wholesale to studios so we should talk a little. Cool offer I think. Hey I just realized Im actually a positive kinda guy. Thanks Steve.

Dude - you could come to my house via a 20 minute drive and get high quality clips of your amp AND you'd have control over exactly what you get in real time. Recording studios are not a necessity to get great sounding amp clips anymore... Many folks, including myself, have everything necessary to record kickass sounding clips... There are a ton of guys very close to you who could do this - why ship your amp somewhere? I dunno - just my opinion...

Steve

But do professional bands use your services for guitar reamping for their albums? They use mine. Ask The Empire Shall Fall and Erase Your Memory how my guitar tones turned out for their work. The words "couldn't be happier" come to mind.

Just because you can stick a microphone in front of an amplifier doesn't mean you know how to represent it correctly in a mix situation. I think you may be undermining my work a little bit here.

Not to mention the fact every guitar tone competition I've entered, I've won. I intend on recording guitar tones for a living, and it's time to show the industry what I'm made of.

Aside from that, I only know ONE amp manufacturer who has decent clips of their amplifier on their website, and that's KranK. If it was SO EASY for these amp manufacturers to find recordings of their amp that they thought really highlighted what they had in mind when they built it, everyone would do it. I believe I have a gift when it comes to recording guitars, and the people who take up my offer will surely find out

I don't know, man...you seem like a nice enough guy and all but you come off as a little big for your britches when you post...not hating on you just telling you what it looks like to me.

 

[Anonymous]

First, let me say that I said it was nice of you to offer this. Now I'll address your comments.

But do professional bands use your services for guitar reamping for their albums? They use mine. Ask The Empire Shall Fall and Erase Your Memory how my guitar tones turned out for their work. The words "couldn't be happier" come to mind.

No, they don't, but I haven't tried to sell my services to do this. I'm equipped to reamp and I know how to make that process work and sound good. Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass about what pro bands do. I just care about the end product I'm looking for.

Just because you can stick a microphone in front of an amplifier doesn't mean you know how to represent it correctly in a mix situation. I think you may be undermining my work a little bit here.

I know how to represent a guitar in a mix and all by itself. I'm not "undermining" anything - I assume you mean "underestimating" though.

Look, I'm not saying you aren't good at what you do. What I'm saying is there are any number of people local to most amp builders who can do what you do and would be willing to do it for nothing.

Not to mention the fact every guitar tone competition I've entered, I've won. I intend on recording guitar tones for a living, and it's time to show the industry what I'm made of.

That's super. But as an amp builder, what would I care about whether you show the industry what you're made of? I'm only concerned with representing my product.

Aside from that, I only know ONE amp manufacturer who has decent clips of their amplifier on their website, and that's KranK. If it was SO EASY for these amp manufacturers to find recordings of their amp that they thought really highlighted what they had in mind when they built it, everyone would do it. I believe I have a gift when it comes to recording guitars, and the people who take up my offer will surely find out

Just because you don't like the clips doesn't mean they don't represent the manufacturers idea of what the amp should sound like. If they don't like the clips, why do they put them up? Everyone hears things differently. This whole idea that you need some magic "gift" to properly record a guitar amp is just silly to me. It takes a bit of time, some practice and decent ears, nothing more. I hear tons of clips posted on this site that represent a particular amp well enough that I know whether I'd like one or not. It doesn't have to be a full album production to meet the needs of clips for a website.

I'm sorry you took my initial comments so personally. I wasn't trying to bag on you at all and I'm sure you can make some nice recordings and I think it was cool you offered. I just put out my thoughts on why I don't think you'll get a lot of takers. Who knows, I may be way off here and I wish you the best of luck.

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Actually since he has a studio I think some will do it. I have a client in Frisco who offered me this 2 years ago....he bought the amp. I would like some recordings (above average) done on my amp. As soon as I am done with this one and demo it for a guy, Ill get in touch. I also wholesale to studios so we should talk a little. Cool offer I think. Hey I just realized Im actually a positive kinda guy. Thanks Steve.

Dude - you could come to my house via a 20 minute drive and get high quality clips of your amp AND you'd have control over exactly what you get in real time. Recording studios are not a necessity to get great sounding amp clips anymore... Many folks, including myself, have everything necessary to record kickass sounding clips... There are a ton of guys very close to you who could do this - why ship your amp somewhere? I dunno - just my opinion...

Steve

I know I know shipping is risky. I figure your a buzy dude ..like me full time job and amps on the side.

Sure, I'm busy - but I'd be happy to work something out with you if you can't make high quality clips yourself. I certainly have the means.

Steve

 

[Bob Savage]

Aside from that, I only know ONE amp manufacturer who has decent clips of their amplifier on their website, and that's KranK. If it was SO EASY for these amp manufacturers to find recordings of their amp that they thought really highlighted what they had in mind when they built it, everyone would do it. I believe I have a gift when it comes to recording guitars, and the people who take up my offer will surely find out

Now you're stepping on the toes of a number of people, many who use these forums and are quite competent a producing not only great guitar clips, but entire albums. Keep in mind the subjectivity of "good," but aside from that I would suggest you remain humble otherwise you may subject yourself to more criticism than you're willing to bear. These forums can be good for your business, but be careful who's toes you step on along the way.

 

[lolzgreg]

I'm sorry you took my initial comments so personally. I wasn't trying to bag on you at all and I'm sure you can make some nice recordings and I think it was cool you offered. I just put out my thoughts on why I don't think you'll get a lot of takers. Who knows, I may be way off here and I wish you the best of luck.

Steve

It's okay, I understand where you're coming from. I appreciate the mojo.

Regardless, my point is, a single tracked guitar recorded by someone who doesn't scrutinize their recording technique is not going to have the same affect on a company's potential customer base than one that is recorded with high-caliber gear by someone who will move a microphone a pin-sized amount to get the amp to sound "just right."

I'm sure I will get at least a few takers. I'm sure after the people who didn't take up the offer hear what I did for the people who did send me their amps, they'll send them to me to. I can only hope so, at least. Shipping an amp to me is no risk to anyone. Once I give and address and phone number, it would be easy to find me! I have plenty of contacts that know I'm a stand up fellow.

 

[lolzgreg]

I don't know, man...you seem like a nice enough guy and all but you come off as a little big for your britches when you post...not hating on you just telling you what it looks like to me.

I understand. I don't mean to sound bombastic- the internet doesn't help with tone of voice. Let me ask you something:

When someone comes to your job and says "why should I use your services/buy from you," do you say "Uh I dunno, my product/service is pretty good. You know, pretty nice?"

Why should anyone go to your store, have a house built for them by you, or record your album if you're not confident that your work wil surpass your competitors, at LEAST on the terms of the budget you have in mind? The service I'm offering is free, as long as I am credited.

I know I can be a little cocky, but if you aren't confident, you don't have anything behind you.

 

[glassjaw7]

I don't know, man...you seem like a nice enough guy and all but you come off as a little big for your britches when you post...not hating on you just telling you what it looks like to me.

I understand. I don't mean to sound bombastic- the internet doesn't help with tone of voice. Let me ask you something:

When someone comes to your job and says "why should I use your services/buy from you," do you say "Uh I dunno, my product/service is pretty good. You know, pretty nice?"

Why should anyone go to your store, have a house built for them by you, or record your album if you're not confident that your work wil surpass your competitors, at LEAST on the terms of the budget you have in mind? The service I'm offering is free, as long as I am credited.

I know I can be a little cocky, but if you aren't confident, you don't have anything behind you.

I think this sums it up pretty well. If you are going to do this as a profession, you should be confident that you can do it better than your competitors. Your clips are among the best I've heard from any forumite so far, at least in the metal category.
Also, I can say from experience that you're a stand up guy, taking time out of your day to help me achieve a certain tone from my recto. Thanks!

Guys, all Greg did was offer his services and state that he knows how to properly record a guitar cab. It is a nice offer to amp builders. Also, I'm sure there are some builders that are too busy to properly record clips. For example, Dave Friedman has a great amp out there with hardly any clips to do it justice. I'm not sure why everyone jumped on him for his post.

 

[King Crimson]

 

[jerrydyer]

Your post sounds perfectly fine to me. To many wanna be psychiatrist on forums these days.
You know a post like that, it should be if your interested respon, if youre not , move on to tnext post. whats the big deal. Seems like a cool guy to me. reminds me of when I went on Harmony Central to talk about my amps. Dudes who werent even into amps started callng me names. Its an amp forum and you cant talk about amps (if your a manufacturer I guess)

Just let the dude promote his studio and talents

 

[Bob Savage]

Your post sounds perfectly fine to me. To many wanna be psychiatrist on forums these days.
You know a post like that, it should be if your interested respon, if youre not , move on to tnext post. whats the big deal. Seems like a cool guy to me. reminds me of when I went on Harmony Central to talk about my amps. Dudes who werent even into amps started callng me names. Its an amp forum and you cant talk about amps (if your a manufacturer I guess)

Just let the dude promote his studio and talents

I perceive that you believe your perspective is more well balanced than others. Perhaps some sort of genius complex, dating back to when you were in 1st grade and regularly beaten by the 2nd grade girls in math class. Alternatively, you're lacking calcium in your diet, and it's affecting your spinal cord, leading to delusions and halucinations?

 

[headlessdeadguy]

Douche!


(If any questions... not referring to you Greg.)

 

[JTyson]

 

[jerrydyer]

Your post sounds perfectly fine to me. To many wanna be psychiatrist on forums these days.
You know a post like that, it should be if your interested respon, if youre not , move on to tnext post. whats the big deal. Seems like a cool guy to me. reminds me of when I went on Harmony Central to talk about my amps. Dudes who werent even into amps started callng me names. Its an amp forum and you cant talk about amps (if your a manufacturer I guess)

Just let the dude promote his studio and talents

I perceive that you believe your perspective is more well balanced than others. Perhaps some sort of genius complex, dating back to when you were in 1st grade and regularly beaten by the 2nd grade girls in math class. Alternatively, you're lacking calcium in your diet, and it's affecting your spinal cord, leading to delusions and halucinations?

HOW'D YOU KNOW THAT?

 

[Bob Savage]

HOW'D YOU KNOW THAT?

It just so happened that I read a pop psychology book this morning. At this point, I can state with confidence that I pretty much know everything.

 

[Valtiel]

Your post sounds perfectly fine to me. To many wanna be psychiatrist on forums these days.
You know a post like that, it should be if your interested respon, if youre not , move on to tnext post. whats the big deal. Seems like a cool guy to me. reminds me of when I went on Harmony Central to talk about my amps. Dudes who werent even into amps started callng me names. Its an amp forum and you cant talk about amps (if your a manufacturer I guess)

Just let the dude promote his studio and talents

I perceive that you believe your perspective is more well balanced than others. Perhaps some sort of genius complex, dating back to when you were in 1st grade and regularly beaten by the 2nd grade girls in math class. Alternatively, you're lacking calcium in your diet, and it's affecting your spinal cord, leading to delusions and halucinations?

 

[guitarnoize]

HOW'D YOU KNOW THAT?

It just so happened that I read a pop psychology book this morning. At this point, I can state with confidence that I pretty much know everything.

 

[glpg80]

Its an amp forum and you cant talk about amps (if your a manufacturer I guess)

Just let the dude promote his studio and talents

you wont hear me talk openly about my designs, ask questions about designs, promote others, give hints or ideas etc on this forum.

RT is mainly a consumer based forum, not a tech forum. im a member of many other areas to talk the geek chat that engineers and electronic geeks love. the forumla's, concepts in design, questions, troubleshooting, opinions, etc.

however once you have a finish product, RT would be the only place to mention it because of the caliber of players and tone chasers that love making music. the most stand up guys around on the internet i believe for this.

im sure you know this jerry. nothing against RT, but its the people that make up the forum, not the forum itself...

hence why i respect what greg is doing, but i think it would be more professional to recommend a website with soundclips of before/after, user reviews, etc rather than creating a topic in itself for it.

plus the user end agreements, insurance purposes, shipping damage insurance purposes, and the release forms as well. just alot more to it than offering your good word which no one can question from what i have read. but i dont know greg, so i cant say anything. but ~60 for shipping costs isnt bad to recieve recorded tones that the builder wants. i might take him up on this offer. i dont have the time or the money to invest in mic pre's, microphones, cubase, learning curves thereof, etc.

as long as he records it with the speakers i would like and the microphones i prefer with the fine print available to read, i wouldnt see a problem at all.

 

[Mikko Vainiala]

When someone comes to your job and says "why should I use your services/buy from you," do you say "Uh I dunno, my product/service is pretty good. You know, pretty nice?"

Heh, but as soon as you can say those words you know you're on top of your game/biz! (Think some contract killer in Tarantino movie saying this about his services or some Kasparov speaking to banker to get a loan for some chess school etc.)

I know I can be a little cocky, but if you aren't confident, you don't have anything behind you.

This is serious shit, stop right now. As long as you can wrote tasteful riffs for youself and people in tone contests you're safe and nothing bad can happend to you. (Angel-Psychiatrist)

Btw, you're playing through my amp(s) constantly these days (DI's)...and I'm sitting aside and waiting my turn. But there was quite challenge, in the otherwise cool contest clip at Sneap forum your pick attack was extremely soft, imo, and the only way out of it (to make it "snappy") was to make a cathode follower driven power tube section for it. I did that first time in my life so thanks for kicking some lazy ass here.

You're very likeable and enthuastic person Greg and I wish all the best to you and your work plus I'm hoping you to post more DI's for overall testing.

PS. I have been quite bad(ly read) or sometimes cocky self-confident builder too, but luckily I recognize this part in me only in the internet-ampworld and have learned that it fails every time. Hope some of this was understandable.

 

[lolzgreg]

Btw, you're playing through my amp(s) constantly these days (DI's)...and I'm sitting aside and waiting my turn. But there was quite challenge, in the otherwise cool contest clip at Sneap forum your pick attack was extremely soft, imo, and the only way out of it (to make it "snappy") was to make a cathode follower driven power tube section for it. I did that first time in my life so thanks for kicking some lazy ass here.

You're very likeable and enthuastic person Greg and I wish all the best to you and your work plus I'm hoping you to post more DI's for overall testing.

PS. I have been quite bad(ly read) or sometimes cocky self-confident builder too, but luckily I recognize this part in me only in the internet-ampworld and have learned that it fails every time. Hope some of this was understandable.

What amps do you make?

I definitely didn't pick lightly on those DIs, considering I'm the person who wrote/played them. I don't recall anyone aside from one person having any sort of issues getting a good tone from the clips. People on the Sneap forum are very quick to call you out when you f**k up, trust me. How were you reamping the clips?

Thanks for the kind words otherwise.

-Greg

 

[sixstrings]

I don't know why people are shitting on this guy. At least he's willing to back up the shit he talks. I haven't heard enough to know how well he plays solos, but I can tell right away that he knows way more about recording than I do (which my knowledge of recording amounts to about a grain of fucking rice).

As absurd as his proposal may seem, at least it's a free and presumably high-quality service he's willing to provide. To be quite honest, some great amp makers can't seem to post sound clips to save their lives.

What I'd like to see in ALL amp demos is sound clips of strats and les pauls, clean and high gain, rhythm and solos. What irritates me is when people use effects, especially wah pedals, in amp demos. The other thing that I find worthless are amp demos with no lead guitar. I always run across amp demos that sound fantastic, but when you use them for lead playing, they don't cut the fucking mustard.

All I'm saying is if you're going to do something, do it well. Additionally, I'd like to see a repository of amp clips or perhaps where you plan on compiling them for public access. Amp demos scattered across various websites doesn't do a whole lot of good. I think a much better idea is to add them to places like netmusicians.org or something where they can be compiled and compared with similar types.

I'd like to hear what you can do. Post some good shit for Rig-Talk.