A MESSAGE TO ALL AMPLIFIER BUILDERS: PLEASE READ

[lolzgreg]

Thanks for your support. I don't know why my balls are being broken.

My premise is that if you send me an amp, I will make awesome clips of it, period.

There is no argument here until I fail to deliver, which won't happen.

My studio myspace (https://www.myspace.com/thetomatofarmstudio) has high-quality clips on a soundclip player of work that I've done. I don't have legal permission to link to dropbox links of bands I've worked with. It is their material, and I have no right to post links for it to be downloaded for for free.

If anyone here wants me to back up my name, send me some guitar DIs recorded dry with a quality DI box and some backing tracks that are premixed, and I'll make the guitars rock.

 

[degenaro]

Thanks for your support. I don't know why my balls are being broken.

My premise is that if you send me an amp, I will make awesome clips of it, period.

There is no argument here until I fail to deliver, which won't happen.

My studio myspace (https://www.myspace.com/thetomatofarmstudio) has high-quality clips on a soundclip player of work that I've done. I don't have legal permission to link to dropbox links of bands I've worked with. It is their material, and I have no right to post links for it to be downloaded for for free.

If anyone here wants me to back up my name, send me some guitar DIs recorded dry with a quality DI box and some backing tracks that are premixed, and I'll make the guitars rock.

For the simple reason that talking up a storm in the "room" with a bunch of players...regardless whether you're the illegitimate child of Yngwie and Michael Wagnener will get you your balls busted.

Also, "professional studio" seriously? You got a project studio, about half the guys in this thread have set-ups on par or above.

Now...as some one that does this tone shit for a living.. here's the deal, unless I seriously want to pigeonhole any brand toward a sales demographic that will after 150 amps have the bottom drop out unless I have 20k/month for advertisement I'd consider some one doing Metal stuff. But that sure as hell isn't where sales are at...

 

[glpg80]

i think i should send greg one of my amplifiers with a volume knob and a tone knob. thats all.

tweak to your hearts content lol.

point being i think there is an ego problem here. i've seen alot of it lately. people that outgrow their pants before they know it.

the second i started learning electronics ~7 years ago i realized i knew absolutely nothing. the guys that are graduating with degree's over the years at my college are the guys that admit they know absolutely nothing, and are willing to learn from someone else. rather than make baulking statements.

with that being said, i think you have a while to go. a myspace page wont do it for me. would be best to lay low, EARN your respect the hard way - over time - and not demand it with free offerings and reasons that dont lean much leverage on a public forum to begin with.

its what im doing. i dont claim to know much, because i dont. a few people have interest in a prototype model i am designing, others probably have no clue what im talking about. but no matter what i think, i still dont have enough experience to mention it in the first place. so it doesnt matter.

you are roughly the same age as i am - i might be a bit older. you've got your whole life to do what you need to earn your boots, but the method you are choosing to do it now isnt the wisest or the most professional. however with time i still respect the effort and drive that you have. that is what matters but again - no one else cares. there are other very prominant amplifier builders that tell me the same thing that i greatly respect.

"speak softly, and carry a big stick"

take my words with salt if you would like, but that is not what is meant at all. i wish you luck greg.

-matt

 

[lolzgreg]

i think i should send greg one of my amplifiers with a volume knob and a tone knob. thats all.

tweak to your hearts content

No Brian May signature Vox amps, please

 

[lolzgreg]

You guys can say whatever you want or criticize me in any way you find fitting, civil or uncivil.

I'm willing to back my abilities up. I never said I was the best guitarist around (I'm definitely not, but by the unedited clips I've posted, I can play to a metronome, can't I?)

I never said I was the best engineer on this forum. That statement would be incredibly ignorant considering I don't know everyone here and I surely haven't heard all of their works.

I did say one thing, if an amplifier manufacturer sends me their amp, I'll make great, fitting clips for their website, for free. I don't see you people's issue with that. I forgot that it was legal in the United States to have a voice... it seems to me like a lot of people on here have a skewed perception of this whole situation.

I would save the criticism for when you hear the amps that I record

One prominent builder on this forum has already contacted me saying they would send me out an amp as soon as they could. I don't give names out, since it was P.M.'d to me, and I have something called integrity. When it arrives at my house, I'll take pictures.

 

[glpg80]

I don't see you people's issue with that. I forgot that it was legal in the United States to have a voice... it seems to me like a lot of people on here have a skewed perception of this whole situation.

I would save the criticism for when you hear the amps that I record

One prominent builder on this forum has already contacted me saying they would send me out an amp as soon as they could. I don't give names out, since it was P.M.'d to me, and I have something called integrity. When it arrives at my house, I'll take pictures.

one very prominent amplifier builder told me exactly what i told you. and i will say a name, Mike Fortin. what im telling you are words of advice from both very respectful engineers and experienced human beings in general dude, and im passing it on because you keep digging yourself a deeper hole.

you can have a voice all you want. its your attitude that demands people agree with it, agree with your methods in the first place, and also agree with your attitude that is getting your criticism which you, in some stupid way, keep taking offensively and start back-pedaling to your soundclips.

i dont care about your soundclips. thats not the point here. you are missing what i am telling you all together.

its not the fact if what you're doing, its your ignorant attitude to get your name out by bribing.

its not professional, its demanding, and there are strings attached.

so keep offering soundclips, and proof, and so and so forth. i thought you had more of a brain than this. you seem intellegent but your ego is what is killing you. i wont type anymore on this topic.

 

[lolzgreg]

How am I BRIBING anyone? I'm not looking for compensation of any sort. I just want credit if they end up using my clips.

This is a learning opportunity for me and will allow me to get to know people.

If you want people to go to your restaurant, put up a sign that says "buy one dinner get one free." If no one has tried your food, you need to get them in your joint.

I want to hear different amplifiers and put them under a microphone. There is no better way to do that then to go to the source... THE MANUFACTURER! This way, I get to hear the product, they get clips of what "I hear."

I think I'm done responding to people's comments as well.

Any amp manufacturers who take up this offer, I greatly appreciate your time and effort. I will do my best to provide you with audio samples that satisfy your aural senses.

 

[K Odell]

Everyone is gonna handle their business differently. It's wrong for any of us to tell each other how to run our own stuff. I am not taking sides by the way or at least not trying to bc I value most everyone on this forums opinion and feel like a total noober in comparison to everyone. Just saying......lets all be friends and talk about our love for different amps and how we like to hear solid clips of all the amps out there.

 

[EXPcustom]

I am keeping a eye on this thread...

Also get a Commercial UPS account so people can send you amps and bill the shipping to you, it will make it a whole lot easier for you in the long run and it costs nothing to open one.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I personally think that it was very nice of you to offer this service. It could be a win/win situation for both parties involved. I don't get all of the pissing and moaning. I don't see how Greg offering this would offend anyones sensibilities.

 

[Mikko Vainiala]

I definitely didn't pick lightly on those DIs, considering I'm the person who wrote/played them. I don't recall anyone aside from one person having any sort of issues getting a good tone from the clips. People on the Sneap forum are very quick to call you out when you f**k up, trust me. How were you reamping the clips?

Nothing to complain.

Never said I didn't get good tone with your DI's, plus I said IMO you played very softly on lower strings. I really think you're talented and all, just don't see nobody is trying to break your balls here. I must say though, that you must have no idea how many tons of clips people here have posted from their amps already 10-15 years ago in different forums.

 

[sixstrings]

Now...as some one that does this tone shit for a living.. here's the deal...

I'm not ripping on you here Ed, but why do people think that just because they do something for a living it somehow qualifies their opinions above others? I know people who've made their livings their entire lives and been worth shit at what they do. I get what you're saying, but I don't think that's what Greg's after. It doesn't sound to me like he's trying to corner the market of amp demos. In fact, he's offering the shit for free.

If doing some work for free gets you some exposure, then it could certainly be worth it. I've heard gear demos and then went to look for music downloads or CD's by the authors if I like their stuff. I've discovered a lot of great music that way.

Damn! The guy comes along putting himself out there and next thing you know he's getting ripped on or lectured. If I had listened to all the fucking sages who told me all the things I couldn't do, I'd be nowhere today.

Just sit back and let the man work his magic. I still haven't heard anyone with a halfway decent critique of his recordings, and I doubt that will happen because he's pretty good as far as I can tell. I don't give a shit if everyone has a home studio better than his because he's willing to do the work.

I'll look forward to hearing some good amp clips and possibly some original scores.

 

[nbarts]

i think i should send greg one of my amplifiers with a volume knob and a tone knob. thats all.

tweak to your hearts content lol.

 

[Bob Savage]

I never said I was the best engineer on this forum. That statement would be incredibly ignorant considering I don't know everyone here and I surely haven't heard all of their works.

I did say one thing, if an amplifier manufacturer sends me their amp, I'll make great, fitting clips for their website, for free. I don't see you people's issue with that.

Actually, you went one step further than that and said no manufacturer other than Krank has good clips on their site. You would be better suited to refrain from making derogatory statements about others (it was indeed inferred), and simply let your work speak for itself.

I forgot that it was legal in the United States to have a voice...

What?

Best of luck to you in your clip making venture, and I mean that.

Now, where's that guitar?

 

[tonmazz]

I personally think that it was very nice of you to offer this service. It could be a win/win situation for both parties involved. I don't get all of the pissing and moaning. I don't see how Greg offering this would offend anyones sensibilities.

This did sort of spiral out of control a bit, nice of you to make the offer. Implying most amp builders, of which there are many on these forums, have crappy clips, not so cool. It is a matter of opinion, let your work speak for itself.

 

[degenaro]

Now...as some one that does this tone shit for a living.. here's the deal...

I'm not ripping on you here Ed, but why do people think that just because they do something for a living it somehow qualifies their opinions above others? I know people who've made their livings their entire lives and been worth shit at what they do. I get what you're saying, but I don't think that's what Greg's after. It doesn't sound to me like he's trying to corner the market of amp demos. In fact, he's offering the shit for free.

If doing some work for free gets you some exposure, then it could certainly be worth it. I've heard gear demos and then went to look for music downloads or CD's by the authors if I like their stuff. I've discovered a lot of great music that way.

Damn! The guy comes along putting himself out there and next thing you know he's getting ripped on or lectured. If I had listened to all the fucking sages who told me all the things I couldn't do, I'd be nowhere today.

Just sit back and let the man work his magic. I still haven't heard anyone with a halfway decent critique of his recordings, and I doubt that will happen because he's pretty good as far as I can tell. I don't give a shit if everyone has a home studio better than his because he's willing to do the work.

I'll look forward to hearing some good amp clips and possibly some original scores.

Actually I was referring to be the #2 guy at an amp company...
I can get guys with that kinda project studio by the boat load, shit there are 3 working at the shop, and 2 that actually work in "real" studios.And have major label credits. Point was that for all the talk, as some one in amp marketing I say I wouldn't bother until I'd heard some none metal stuff.

 

[jerrydyer]

Its an amp forum and you cant talk about amps (if your a manufacturer I guess)

Just let the dude promote his studio and talents

you wont hear me talk openly about my designs, ask questions about designs, promote others, give hints or ideas etc on this forum.

RT is mainly a consumer based forum, not a tech forum. im a member of many other areas to talk the geek chat that engineers and electronic geeks love. the forumla's, concepts in design, questions, troubleshooting, opinions, etc.

however once you have a finish product, RT would be the only place to mention it because of the caliber of players and tone chasers that love making music. the most stand up guys around on the internet i believe for this.

im sure you know this jerry. nothing against RT, but its the people that make up the forum, not the forum itself...

hence why i respect what greg is doing, but i think it would be more professional to recommend a website with soundclips of before/after, user reviews, etc rather than creating a topic in itself for it.

plus the user end agreements, insurance purposes, shipping damage insurance purposes, and the release forms as well. just alot more to it than offering your good word which no one can question from what i have read. but i dont know greg, so i cant say anything. but ~60 for shipping costs isnt bad to recieve recorded tones that the builder wants. i might take him up on this offer. i dont have the time or the money to invest in mic pre's, microphones, cubase, learning curves thereof, etc.

as long as he records it with the speakers i would like and the microphones i prefer with the fine print available to read, i wouldnt see a problem at all.

Youve misquoted me sir. Where is the rest of it. That statement was about harmony central not rig talk. From your statements we are in agreement so i dont even know why you brought me in on your statement. I think his offer is cool. Leave me out of it now.. thank you.

 

[UltraGary]

I am a relatively new forumite here, and I believe I have a great grasp on recording guitar amplifiers. I have spent the past two years of my life painstakingly tweaking knobs, moving microphones, using different boosts, changing cabinet positioning and choosing different micropones to ACCURATELY and properly capture the sound produced by a guitar amplifier.

I have high-definition gear including an RME Fireface 800, several appropriate microphones for recording guitar cabinets, and three high-quality guitar cabinets that put out some serious tone. I am obsessive over tone, and I want to be able to express that in recordings for your product.

I am putting it out on the table, that I will record ANY MANUFACTURER'S guitar, amplifier, guitar cabinet, pickup, or stopbox, FREE OF CHARGE, if shipping and return shipping is provided for the product in question. I assure you that your product will be packed and returned to you in the exact same condition it is shipped to me. I guarantee 100% satisfaction that YOU will be happy with the recording of your product, or I will continue to record it until you are.

I am a proficient guitarist/bassist and am capable of programming drum tracks to the point where only other experienced engineers (and maybe not even some of them) would be able to tell whether a real drummer was playing on the tracks.

This offer extends to anyone who will post here. Please contact me for details. Baron55 (Baron Custom Amplification's David Woodhouse), FortinAmps (Mike Fortin) and MILLS Acoustics (Dave Mills) will all be able to vouch that I am a stand-up fellow with a wealth of knowledge that will provide you with something you will be proud of.

Clips here of Mike Fortin's Meathead on Channel 6 through a Mills Acoustics Afterburner 412B. These clips were reamped in a time of less than 10 minutes in DARE STUDIOS (a noisy, untreated rehearsal room, under mediocre conditions) through a $300 dollar recording interface and still sound awesome and representative of the amplifier:

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=58365

For more examples of my current work, check out:

https://www.myspace.com/thetomatofarmstudio

Please, feel free to PM me with any details or questions you may have. I am willing to talk for hours upon hours and I refuse to disappoint.

-Greg Tomao

Niiiiice!

PS (all in good fun I should warn you that it's outrageously hard to find individual replacement keys for computer keyboards.....as I can only assume your "I" & "me/my" keys are pretty worn out.

 

[lolzgreg]

Actually, you went one step further than that and said no manufacturer other than Krank has good clips on their site. You would be better suited to refrain from making derogatory statements about others (it was indeed inferred), and simply let your work speak for itself.

This statement is true. I have an opinion, so do you. There is a difference. In this case, I value mine more than yours. For every amp I've ever wanted to purchase, I checked the amplifier manufacturer's website for clips. None of them sounded like the amps I played. Boogie is doing a good job now, but it still doesn't sound like a well recorded rectifier!

Some have youtube videos or decent quality videos, but forget about my opinion, it is FACT some people are better and recording amplifiers than others. I don't need to name anyone. It's obvious when you hear someone's recording and you hear wooly bass on the guitars, that overwhelm the bass. Or when the high-frequency content of the amplifier creates a shroud over the higher register of cymbals.

*Edit to remove relatively inappropriate statement*

 

[Bob Savage]

This statement is true. I have an opinion, so do you. There is a difference. In this case, I value mine more than yours.

I believe this statement says it all. You have no idea about the concept of "business."