Always wondered... (Wizard amps)

[FortinAmps]

KILLER R&D Department Mike ! ! !

Thanks Jef I have other amps that are not in that picture as well.
I have since had to sell off some of those amps in that large group shot because R&D gets expensive.

Cheers,
Mike

 

[Greazygeo]

On my Modern he put in the Bright control from the Metal and a different gain boost.

George

George, what do you mean different gain boost ? The boost on Jay's Metal seems to have the same effect as our MC's gain boost. Though his is on permanently, no push/pull knob.

Hey Gary,

My Metal has the same gain boost you guys have as far as I know. A push pull pot on the Gain channels output. On the back of that pot is a cap/ resistor that gets added to the circuit.

When Rick built my MC I asked for some more gain from stock. He built it into the circuit first, but I wanted it as a push pull so I could have the stock MC sound and then the high gain sound. It adds a cap only. I think on the current models this is now a stock feature. The Metal's boost adds some treble/ presence while the MC's boost just adds gain with no difference in tone.

 

[Cornfordcrunch]

Wizards are the only amp I have the desire to still own after buying my Cornford. I imagine running them together would yield orgasmic results.

 

[thegame]

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[thegame]

Hey Gary,

My Metal has the same gain boost you guys have as far as I know. A push pull pot on the Gain channels output. On the back of that pot is a cap/ resistor that gets added to the circuit.

When Rick built my MC I asked for some more gain from stock. He built it into the circuit first, but I wanted it as a push pull so I could have the stock MC sound and then the high gain sound. It adds a cap only. I think on the current models this is now a stock feature. The Metal's boost adds some treble/ presence while the MC's boost just adds gain with no difference in tone.

Interesting. Sounds like Rick put the gain boost as per your Metal in my & Jay's MCs because it does get more treb/pres along with the gain increase. We were bugging him for as much gain as possible, and I guess we got as much as a 3 gain stage design allows. I'm speculating on that last part of course.

He also fixed the channel bleed issues and put extra metal sheilding in to prevent squeeling. It worked. The speaker jacks are too close to some of the preamp circuitry. I noticed some TGP guys mention their newer MCs had slight channel bleed issues and the new gut pics I've seen show no extra sheilding. You'd think he'd make that standard for what he charges nowadays

 

[Greazygeo]

Hey Gary,

My Metal has the same gain boost you guys have as far as I know. A push pull pot on the Gain channels output. On the back of that pot is a cap/ resistor that gets added to the circuit.

When Rick built my MC I asked for some more gain from stock. He built it into the circuit first, but I wanted it as a push pull so I could have the stock MC sound and then the high gain sound. It adds a cap only. I think on the current models this is now a stock feature. The Metal's boost adds some treble/ presence while the MC's boost just adds gain with no difference in tone.

Interesting. Sounds like Rick put the gain boost as per your Metal in my & Jay's MCs because it does get more treb/pres along with the gain increase. We were bugging him for as much gain as possible, and I guess we got as much as a 3 gain stage design allows. I'm speculating on that last part of course.

He also fixed the channel bleed issues and put extra metal sheilding in to prevent squeeling. It worked. The speaker jacks are too close to some of the preamp circuitry. I noticed some TGP guys mention their newer MCs had slight channel bleed issues and the new gut pics I've seen show no extra sheilding. You'd think he'd make that standard for what he charges nowadays

My MC has the shielding plate around the output jacks. What do you mean be channel bleeding?

 

[thegame]

My MC has the shielding plate around the output jacks. What do you mean be channel bleeding?

If you are on the lead ch. and puts its master on 2 for example, then the clean ch. volume around 3 or 4 or higher, you will hear the transients of the clean ch. tone seep into the lead channel. I think all 7 or 8 Wizards I've played have done it to varying degrees. Jay's metal gradually got worse until it was unplayable. Rick fixed it. Mine did it a hair and didn't bother me, but Rick fixed it without me even bringing it up, which was a pleasant surprise.

Of course most people wouldn't play the amp with the clean ch. volume that much higher than the lead ch. buts its there. I suspect this problem wouldn't be as noticable through an attenuator.

 

[Ampaddict]

My MC has the shielding plate around the output jacks. What do you mean be channel bleeding?

If you are on the lead ch. and puts its master on 2 for example, then the clean ch. volume around 3 or 4 or higher, you will hear the transients of the clean ch. tone seep into the lead channel. I think all 7 or 8 Wizards I've played have done it to varying degrees. Jay's metal gradually got worse until it was unplayable. Rick fixed it. Mine did it a hair and didn't bother me, but Rick fixed it without me even bringing it up, which was a pleasant surprise.

Of course most people wouldn't play the amp with the clean ch. volume that much higher than the lead ch. buts its there. I suspect this problem wouldn't be as noticable through an attenuator.

Wow great info!

 

[rocker]

My MC has the shielding plate around the output jacks. What do you mean be channel bleeding?

If you are on the lead ch. and puts its master on 2 for example, then the clean ch. volume around 3 or 4 or higher, you will hear the transients of the clean ch. tone seep into the lead channel. I think all 7 or 8 Wizards I've played have done it to varying degrees. Jay's metal gradually got worse until it was unplayable. Rick fixed it. Mine did it a hair and didn't bother me, but Rick fixed it without me even bringing it up, which was a pleasant surprise.

Of course most people wouldn't play the amp with the clean ch. volume that much higher than the lead ch. buts its there. I suspect this problem wouldn't be as noticable through an attenuator.

My MC does that too,so I have the clean ch,volume off.

 

[Greazygeo]

My MC has the shielding plate around the output jacks. What do you mean be channel bleeding?

If you are on the lead ch. and puts its master on 2 for example, then the clean ch. volume around 3 or 4 or higher, you will hear the transients of the clean ch. tone seep into the lead channel. I think all 7 or 8 Wizards I've played have done it to varying degrees. Jay's metal gradually got worse until it was unplayable. Rick fixed it. Mine did it a hair and didn't bother me, but Rick fixed it without me even bringing it up, which was a pleasant surprise.

Of course most people wouldn't play the amp with the clean ch. volume that much higher than the lead ch. buts its there. I suspect this problem wouldn't be as noticable through an attenuator.

Ah I see what you mean. I usually run my Clean about 6-10 and the Lead about 4. I do notice a slight change if I am on the Lead channel and adjust the Clean volume, but its pretty slight. The Metal is a bit more noticeable, but I always have the Rhythm channel on 10 on that one.