VC4Ever
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rlord1974":618ytrck said:
No, didn't get that form...Fedex has way to many forms to be honest.
No, didn't get that form...Fedex has way to many forms to be honest.
VC4Ever
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Business":2pac478d said:
Seems like a good idea. Then again, USA usually has better selection
steve_k
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You have to fill out form OU-812 in order to avoid duties.
VC4Ever
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As a seller? I seem to be getting the long end of the stick. I have to pay when I buy something and when I sell something. Catch 22...
rlord1974
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VC4Ever":rruk3tcv said:
I've sold, oh, I don't no......dozens of amps to our friends and neighbours down in the States, and I have never paid taxes on these transactions. You should only be paying brokerage and/or import tax (i.e., HST) when importing something purchased outside of Canada.
Who is the invoice from exactly? (e.g., FedEx or a U.S. customs or other agency?)
More importantly, if it's an invoice from FedEx, what charges are indicated on it?
More details, and we'll work this out....
Ventura
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+1rlord1974":rulf0obh said:I've sold, oh, I don't no......dozens of amps to our friends and neighbours down in the States, and I have never paid taxes on these transactions. You should only be paying brokerage and/or import tax (i.e., HST) when importing something purchased outside of Canada.
Who is the invoice from exactly? (e.g., FedEx or a U.S. customs or other agency?)
More importantly, if it's an invoice from FedEx, what charges are indicated on it?
More details, and we'll work this out....
VC4Ever
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It was from Fedex Trade Networks.
It says:
"Upon review of the entry, it has been determined that, as per Canada customs regulations, there is no tax exemption for 'Used Items" shipped to Canada."
So right there something is wrong. I didn't ship TO Canada, I shipped it to the States...
Then it says:
"The same apply for any used items purchased in any local store as Goodwill for example. Used articles are subject to taxes. The taxes exemption is for Canadian goods being returned or warranty/repair or warranty/replacement."
I can't find the breakdown of the charges but it was over $400 dollars. I will report back tomorrow.
Either way something is very wrong here..and its all because I tried to help out the receiver by fudging some info saying it was for repair/modification. Never again.
It says:
"Upon review of the entry, it has been determined that, as per Canada customs regulations, there is no tax exemption for 'Used Items" shipped to Canada."
So right there something is wrong. I didn't ship TO Canada, I shipped it to the States...
Then it says:
"The same apply for any used items purchased in any local store as Goodwill for example. Used articles are subject to taxes. The taxes exemption is for Canadian goods being returned or warranty/repair or warranty/replacement."
I can't find the breakdown of the charges but it was over $400 dollars. I will report back tomorrow.
Either way something is very wrong here..and its all because I tried to help out the receiver by fudging some info saying it was for repair/modification. Never again.
VC4Ever
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It was a Fortin Bones FYI made in Canada...
rlord1974
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That's complete garbage. They have completely messed up this transaction. You need to call them ASAP in the morning.
Canada Customs should not have charged you a dime for this transaction. The charges that SHOULD have been levied on this transaction are:
(1) Assuming you shipped via FedEx International Ground service, there is no brokerage fee assessed on import into the U.S., as that is already built into the cost of the FedExGround service itself (however, this is not the same for all levels of FedEx service - confirm if you shipped via FedEx International Ground); and
(2) U.S. Customs might collect State sales tax on the declared value of the contents, on behalf of the State the parcel was being delivered to.
These amounts could be billed to either the shipper (you) or receiver. This is usually a check box on the FedEx waybill or when completing a shipment online. If you missed this, you could argue to FedEx that you had requested import charges be billed to the recipient. I wish you well on that journey.......You'd be better off trying to get the money out of the purchaser.
I have a feeling Canada Customs made an administrative error and the charges will be dismissed. Just don't sit on it!
And, your purchaser might yet receive an invoice for tax assessed on import into the U.S.
Canada Customs should not have charged you a dime for this transaction. The charges that SHOULD have been levied on this transaction are:
(1) Assuming you shipped via FedEx International Ground service, there is no brokerage fee assessed on import into the U.S., as that is already built into the cost of the FedExGround service itself (however, this is not the same for all levels of FedEx service - confirm if you shipped via FedEx International Ground); and
(2) U.S. Customs might collect State sales tax on the declared value of the contents, on behalf of the State the parcel was being delivered to.
These amounts could be billed to either the shipper (you) or receiver. This is usually a check box on the FedEx waybill or when completing a shipment online. If you missed this, you could argue to FedEx that you had requested import charges be billed to the recipient. I wish you well on that journey.......You'd be better off trying to get the money out of the purchaser.
I have a feeling Canada Customs made an administrative error and the charges will be dismissed. Just don't sit on it!
And, your purchaser might yet receive an invoice for tax assessed on import into the U.S.
lespaul6
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Following this with interest.... just purchased a headshell from wizard and had some updates done to my modern classic. Should I expect to see something in the mail down the road indicating I owe taxes on these items?
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Anonymous
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So basically what happened is you asked for a "tax exemption", which was accorded, then upon further review someone realised that there shouldn't have been any "tax exemption" and now they want you to pay for it because they messed up along the way?
Like a tax report when you declare government owes you 500$, they send you 500$ then review your shit and turns out they owed you only 400$, ans ask you for 100$ back
Like a tax report when you declare government owes you 500$, they send you 500$ then review your shit and turns out they owed you only 400$, ans ask you for 100$ back
ericsabbath
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fedex taxes for brazil are a little over 100% (federal import tax + state vat + some fedex bullshit)
oh... and that's over both product value AND shipping
a $600 amp head, after shipping and fees, ends up for... $2000
oh... and I'm ignoring the extra 12% on currency conversion and bank bullshit fees
oh... and that's over both product value AND shipping
a $600 amp head, after shipping and fees, ends up for... $2000
oh... and I'm ignoring the extra 12% on currency conversion and bank bullshit fees
steve_k
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ericsabbath":2r5ruwwm said:fedex taxes for brazil are a little over 100% (federal import tax + state vat + some fedex bullshit)
oh... and that's over both product value AND shipping
a $600 amp head, after shipping and fees, ends up for... $2000
oh... and I'm ignoring the extra 12% on currency conversion and bank bullshit fees
WHAT?
That is absurd. To me, if a host country cannot offer said goods to a legal resident, then they should back the hell off for personal use goods. Sounds like the mafia have taken over Brazlian customs.
Shark Diver
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steve_k":3fiwoqws said:ericsabbath":3fiwoqws said:fedex taxes for brazil are a little over 100% (federal import tax + state vat + some fedex bullshit)
oh... and that's over both product value AND shipping
a $600 amp head, after shipping and fees, ends up for... $2000
oh... and I'm ignoring the extra 12% on currency conversion and bank bullshit fees
WHAT?
That is absurd. To me, if a host country cannot offer said goods to a legal resident, then they should back the hell off for personal use goods. Sounds like the mafia have taken over Brazlian customs.
I don't feel sorry for the Brazilians. They have great beaches and those amazing women. Who'd have time for guitar?
rlord1974
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lespaul6":29ln0z6g said:
The short answer?...Maybe.
Rick needs to include paperwork indicating that the amp had been returned to him by a U.S.-based customer for repair work. He will need to indicate that, although the amp has an insured value for shipping purposes of $2k+, any import taxes on that value would have been assessed and collected when the amp was originally sold to you. He would then indicate the value of the work he just performed for you (eg, $250 in repairs, $350 for a new headshell for total incremental taxable value of $600). If he does this, U.S. Customs should technically only assess any tax on the $600 and not the full insured value of the package. That having been said, my understanding is that U.S. Customs typically only assesses import taxes on commercial sales in excess of $2,500 in value, so you should probably be ok. If he ships it to you via FedEx Ground, there also should be no brokerage fee, as its built into the cost of the Ground service. I can't stress enough the importance of Rick including very clear paperwork/documentation with the amp when it ships back to you.
lespaul6
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Ok, thanks for the heads up. I already received the headshell and should get the amp sometime this week. Canada post thanks again
dooredge
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Shark Diver":6r3q8k7s said:I don't feel sorry for the Brazilians. They have great beaches and those amazing women. Who'd have time for guitar?
No kidding! I'd be too busy acquiring STD's instead of gear!
...did I just say that out loud?
VC4Ever
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I made a mistake. This was a charge for an amp I received from the States...I got confused cause I sent out an amp around the same time.Oh well, I guess you only get the tax man when receiving. The seller tried to send the amp as a repair/mod for a used item, but further review by the tax man says gimme gimme.
Sorry for the confusion...
tfridgen
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The customs form that came on the package, I think it's yellow and grey, has a place for appeal on the back. Fill this out and provide documentation and you will get your money back. It probably says they didn't even open the parcel...