Anybody else have any transgender kids?

[NoHassle]

There appears to be proof of a transgender on the board, there's a deranged woman with a beard who posts like it's the last day on the planet that I'm aware of so, is that a transgender person? As you can tell I have very little experience with them but I think this is my first encounter.

 

[inyarak74]

Shock em all with a big change that suprise the fuck outta em. Church, etc you might have an epiphany.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

my only advice would be to take away your bias towards "big pharma" to help you look at it more objectively. Personally, I think 16 is too young for any kind of treatment. Therapy or support groups would be more beneficial at this stage IMO.

But again, while I'm not crazy about medications, they aren't the only evil in the world, they just happen to be one that you are sensitive to. For perspective, the alcohol industry has ruined way more lives than pharmaceuticals, yet you openly get plastered every weekend. I'm not saying that as a judgement towards you, just that your negative views towards some treatments (meds) are the same as other people's views on things you are ok with (alcohol).

There is no simple answer, but objectivity is always best for complicated scenarios

Is it Saturday yet? I got beers on deck
Hey, it's my one day to turn my fucking brain off. I have severe PTSD from the military, ADD, depression, anxiety, LOL. I'm not well. But I manage it, without drugs. Hey, I got friends that are far worse off that have not seen as much shit as I've seen. I just figure if I limit the drinking to 2 days a week, I'm better off. I've gone years without booze, I'm just on the booze wagon again. I'm going to switch back to small amounts of weed for the dark days (Winter) and basically stop till the sun comes back in 6 months. I never get ugly and never fall down. I'm a good drunk to hang with

That's my poor ass excuse. Anxiety meds have helped me through rough spots and have saved me a few times. But generally, I'm of the belief that the human body is a better pharmacy if you're doing the right things. As for myself, I choose the path of least conflict. I've basically endured 30 years of fighting between my parents and then after that, vet, etc.... I'm all out of conflict. I told them both that taking testosterone @ 16 was not a good idea. Even the doctor admitted they don't have long term data on the physiological ramifications.

So even when the kid was younger he was miserable. He's happy now, so I'm not going to disturb. He's 18, an adult now and I did my best to steer him in the right direction.

My stance on psychopharmaceuticals is that most people don't need them. I did, at one point. They probably saved me from offing myself. So, I'm grateful they were there at that point. But when I see fat slobs that are depressed, that have never done a pushup in their life, I have to question whether they really need an SSRI, or just need some discipline. Anyhow, I'm rambling.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Is it Saturday yet? I got beers on deck
Hey, it's my one day to turn my fucking brain off. I have severe PTSD from the military, ADD, depression, anxiety, LOL. I'm not well. But I manage it, without drugs. Hey, I got friends that are far worse off that have not seen as much shit as I've seen. I just figure if I limit the drinking to 2 days a week, I'm better off. I've gone years without booze, I'm just on the booze wagon again. I'm going to switch back to small amounts of weed for the dark days (Winter) and basically stop till the sun comes back in 6 months. I never get ugly and never fall down. I'm a good drunk to hang with

That's my poor ass excuse. Anxiety meds have helped me through rough spots and have saved me a few times. But generally, I'm of the belief that the human body is a better pharmacy if you're doing the right things. As for myself, I choose the path of least conflict. I've basically endured 30 years of fighting between my parents and then after that, vet, etc.... I'm all out of conflict. I told them both that taking testosterone @ 16 was not a good idea. Even the doctor admitted they don't have long term data on the physiological ramifications.

So even when the kid was younger he was miserable. He's happy now, so I'm not going to disturb. He's 18, an adult now and I did my best to steer him in the right direction.

My stance on psychopharmaceuticals is that most people don't need them. I did, at one point. They probably saved me from offing myself. So, I'm grateful they were there at that point. But when I see fat slobs that are depressed, that have never done a pushup in their life, I have to question whether they really need an SSRI, or just need some discipline. Anyhow, I'm rambling.

I’m in my early 40s now and I was in grade school when people were handing out Ritalin like it was candy. I’m sure it did help a lot of people but that Shit creeps me out and I’m glad I was never urged to take it.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

I’m in my early 40s now and I was in grade school when people were handing out Ritalin like it was candy. I’m sure it did help a lot of people but that Shit creeps me out and I’m glad I was never urged to take it.

I talked with my doctor once and she said "have you ever been diagnosed with ADD?"

I said "no, but I know I have it"

Long story short, she asked me if I wanted to try adderall or Ritalin or whatever. I said, "give me the lowest dose possible."

I took that and split it in 1/2. Felt like I had 4 shots of espresso. Nope, not for me, I'm high wired as it is and hate caffeine. I don't understand the allure of that crap.

My neighbor described what a day is like in his life and he sounds exactly like me. For him it was a miracle. I was hoping it would do the same for me. But I don't really need the stuff, my issue is when I get into something, I get super focused and anything that distracts me from what I'm doing, my initial reaction is to get pissed off. I don't have a problem paying attention, as long as it's something I'm interested in. To put a kit on that medicine because they find school fucking boring is ridiculous. My kid took it for a while, and he didn't like the way it made him feel. He ended up in the high honors for the year his senior year.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I talked with my doctor once and she said "have you ever been diagnosed with ADD?"

I said "no, but I know I have it"

Long story short, she asked me if I wanted to try adderall or Ritalin or whatever. I said, "give me the lowest dose possible."

I took that and split it in 1/2. Felt like I had 4 shots of espresso. Nope, not for me, I'm high wired as it is and hate caffeine. I don't understand the allure of that crap.

My neighbor described what a day is like in his life and he sounds exactly like me. For him it was a miracle. I was hoping it would do the same for me. But I don't really need the stuff, my issue is when I get into something, I get super focused and anything that distracts me from what I'm doing, my initial reaction is to get pissed off. I don't have a problem paying attention, as long as it's something I'm interested in. To put a kit on that medicine because they find school fucking boring is ridiculous. My kid took it for a while, and he didn't like the way it made him feel. He ended up in the high honors for the year his senior year.

The only time anyone tried to push meds on me was freshman year of college. I was a bit too high and started freaking out because all I did was skip classes and play guitar lol, so someone just as high as me said I was definitely having a panic attack.
So I went to the health center because at the time I had a heart murmur and I wanted to make sure I wasn’t going to die.

Long story short they prescribed me Zoloft within about 5 mintues of being there, to which anyone that knows me knows I’m the last person in the world who needs Zoloft.

But I took some anyways and it was such a fucked up feeling. It was like I was recessed into my body looking out of it. Was not a fan.

Meds creep me out

 

[VonBonfire]

Meds creep me out

The entire hospital-doctor-pharmaceutical industry creeps me out. Last doctor I trusted retired about 20 years ago.

 

[NoHassle]

It's a sad state of affairs when the medical industry indulges insanity and gives somebody mentally broken a new mutilated and deformed body.

Any person with compassion or the slightest bit of concern for a human would never do this. Instead of a scalpel why don't they 'mentally' treat them which is not mutilating a body. Anyone with half a brain knows if you change their body they're still not happy and never will be. It's a mental issue and not a today's society perpetuated lie about a misgender issue in any way.

We all know it's about money and the lies that support this insanity make them even more money. Many, many decades ago there were 2 people you could blindly trust 100%...your doctor and the priest. Today you can't trust these two especially or anyone else for that matter.

What a cesspool society is and still sinking lower each and every day.

 

[VonBonfire]

It's a sad state of affairs when the medical industry indulges insanity and gives somebody mentally broken a new mutilated and deformed body.

Any person with compassion or the slightest bit of concern for a human would never do this. Instead of a scalpel why don't they 'mentally' treat them which is not mutilating a body. Anyone with half a brain knows if you change their body they're still not happy and never will be. It's a mental issue and not a today's society perpetuated lie about a misgender issue in any way.

We all know it's about money and the lies that support this insanity make them even more money. Many, many decades ago there were 2 people you could blindly trust 100%...your doctor and the priest. Today you can't trust these two especially or anyone else for that matter.

What a cesspool society is and still sinking lower each and every day.

Excuse me sir or ma'am, but you've entered the neo-soul shred zone with a political post. Please remove this immediately.

 

[Monkey Man]

I absolutely will not! This is epidemic at this point. Had this guy stood up to family instead of letting them push him around he would NOT be in this position. Tim Walz would be proud.

Had he "stood up to" his family, the medicos and everyone else vehemently-enough, I'm guessing he would've been "banished from the land", so-to-speak. I figured he didn't want to lose his family, which is a fair assumption IMHO.

Second I’ve worked in a hospital for the better part of 25y. I’ve seen every kind of absurdity you could possibly imagine in the ultra liberal town of Eugene Oregon… from 2014-2019 something changed. I saw many female nurse devolve in this direction and many of those woman also suddenly had trans kids.

Agree 100%.

It seems as you did they also bought into the propaganda.
I see you’re also calling her HE, when she is actually a she. So who has this problem?

I didn't. Geez dude. Talk about a ridiculous assumption.

How many examples do you want? Here are all my gender references to her:

These kids. You can't tell 'em anything sometimes. Sounds like she has "masculine" interests and is just plain-ol' lesbian, something that in-theory shouldn't be at all challenging for you to deal with, but then, as you say, she's an expert and no doubt defers to "expert" academia.

You can't win other than if after a few years she sees the "error" of the path she chose and decides to lay off the hormones.

I feel for you bro'; it must be ridiculously-frustrating. It's you against the missus, the daughter ("son") and the boffins who peddle that nonsense.

So yeah, you really nailed me on the "you bought into the propaganda" claim.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

Had he "stood up to" his family, the medicos and everyone else vehemently-enough, I'm guessing he would've been "banished from the land", so-to-speak. I figured he didn't want to lose his family, which is a fair assumption IMHO.


Agree 100%.


I didn't. Geez dude. Talk about a ridiculous assumption.

How many examples do you want? Here are all my gender references to her:

These kids. You can't tell 'em anything sometimes. Sounds like she has "masculine" interests and is just plain-ol' lesbian, something that in-theory shouldn't be at all challenging for you to deal with, but then, as you say, she's an expert and no doubt defers to "expert" academia.

You can't win other than if after a few years she sees the "error" of the path she chose and decides to lay off the hormones.

I feel for you bro'; it must be ridiculously-frustrating. It's you against the missus, the daughter ("son") and the boffins who peddle that nonsense.

So yeah, you really nailed me on the "you bought into the propaganda" claim.

 

[Monkey Man]

So that's your response?

No, "I'm sorry I completely misjudged your stance" (I made it clear) or apology for accusing me of "... calling her HE, when she is actually a she. So who has this problem?", when in fact I quoted all my gender references and the word I used was exactly the opposite?

Just askin' 'cause I've run into this with you previously in the vaping thread where you accused me of having the logic of a 12 year-old and being in-denial when I gave you the hard facts re Michael Mosely's experiment and also my own info about using only food-grade ingredients to make your own juice.

The Vaping Non-argument

Basically a hit-and-run and no indication that you comprehended / thought about the info I provided... just like right here.

If there's no contrition from you on either of these exchanges, I'm absolutely-fine with that; no problem brother. I'll simply not waste my time in future when you completely misjudge something I say or falsely accuse me of something. Everybody wins.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

So that's your response?

No, "I'm sorry I completely misjudged your stance" (I made it clear) or apology for accusing me of "... calling her HE, when she is actually a she. So who has this problem?", when in fact I quoted all my gender references and the word I used was exactly the opposite?

Just askin' 'cause I've run into this with you previously in the vaping thread where you accused me of having the logic of a 12 year-old and being in-denial when I gave you the hard facts re Michael Mosely's experiment and also my own info about using only food-grade ingredients to make your own juice.

The Vaping Non-argument

Basically a hit-and-run and no indication that you comprehended / thought about the info I provided... just like right here.

If there's no contrition from you on either of these exchanges, I'm absolutely-fine with that; no problem brother. I'll simply not waste my time in future when you completely misjudge something I say or falsely accuse me of something. Everybody wins.

I think you’re getting upset at the person. I’m not placating this or pretending to acquiesce. There’s a lot of brainwashed mentally ill people out there and it’s not doing anybody any favors perpetuating a lie, to make everybody feel good and avoid confrontation. So either be part of the solution or stay part of the problem.

 

[Monkey Man]

Agree 100% bro'.

Only... I'm not one of those peeps is all.

I have a trans sibling and he knows exactly where I stand, FWIMBW, as should you by now.

 

[Monkey Man]

... you’re getting upset at the person

Na mate, just the misjudgements and false accusation is all. You called black white and my post was plain-to-see.

How on earth anyone can accuse someone of using the term, "he" when he used the term "she" exclusively, I don't know, hence my calling you out on it.

EDIT
If it wasn't I who was misquoted, I'd definitely not have said anything at all.