As I Lay Dying Singer Arrested

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Sorry to offend back. I'm not apologizing at all. I do not believe in any Religion, period. Think how you want, live how you want. There is a difference between the qualifiers of "Non" versus "Anti". As long as your belief system does not affect me, and I don't have to listen about how the fact that if I don't accept "The light of Christ" into my heart that I will burn in hell, go for it. This reminds me of my stepfather who, all told, had probably spent all of two days at a church in his entire life. The minute that my Mother passed on, he became ultra religious and every conversation with him there after revolved around how if I did not accept the light of christ into my heart that I would literally burn in hell. Two years later he hooks up with a woman from Thailand, and now he is studying Buddhism. Whaaa?? All of the crosses and rosaries are taken down. As a result, I've had all of two conversations with him in the last five years. Didn't matter that I don't have a criminal record, never thieved, did drugs, and generally had a pretty innocuous life. But I guess a serial killer on Death Row would enter the gates, because he was newly saved? Or my super religious aunt that literally would not let her son who was dying of AIDS visit with any of the other relatives by hiding his condition and location from most of the family, and even disowned her own daughter just because she went to see her dying brother for the last week that he was alive at a hospice in Oregon against the families' wishes. Going on twenty years now she has been hiding his death from everyone else (although we found out about it years ago). I could go on with some more of these gems if you'd like.

Backpedalling? Hardly. I just don't want to hear about it at all. And yes I am a Belieber!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uo8aUzBztk
 
scoobydoo":22ewc1fl said:
Sorry to offend back. I'm not apologizing at all. I do not believe in any Religion, period. Think how you want, live how you want. There is a difference between the qualifiers of "Non" versus "Anti". As long as your belief system does not affect me, and I don't have to listen about how the fact that if I don't accept "The light of Christ" into my heart that I will burn in hell, go for it. This reminds me of my stepfather who, all told, had probably spent all of two days at a church in his entire life. The minute that my Mother passed on, he became ultra religious and every conversation with him there after revolved around how if I did not accept the light of christ into my heart that I would literally burn in hell. Two years later he hooks up with a woman from Thailand, and now he is studying Buddhism. Whaaa?? All of the crosses and rosaries are taken down. As a result, I've had all of two conversations with him in the last five years. Didn't matter that I don't have a criminal record, never thieved, did drugs, and generally had a pretty innocuous life. But I guess a serial killer on Death Row would enter the gates, because he was newly saved? Or my super religious aunt that literally would not let her son who was dying of AIDS visit with any of the other relatives by hiding his condition and location from most of the family, and even disowned her own daughter just because she went to see her dying brother for the last week that he was alive at a hospice in Oregon against the families' wishes. Going on twenty years now she has been hiding his death from everyone else (although we found out about it years ago). I could go on with some more of these gems if you'd like.

Backpedalling? Hardly. I just don't want to hear about it at all. And yes I am a Belieber!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uo8aUzBztk
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Just quit trying to push your beliefs on other people.
 
scoobydoo":ilwe5ayg said:
Likewise
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:lol: :LOL: Irony is so ironic. The pathetic part is you do the exact same things you claim Christians do and don't know it. :aww: And to top it off you weren't pushing your beliefs on anyone..... and you are still oblivious to knowing the difference.
 
Not that it makes a difference either way, but didn't Tim renounce his Christianity awhile ago? Lifting weights basically became his religion after that.
 
scoobydoo":24uvm93b said:
Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine. Thank you Patty Smith.
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Really? So who gives a shit?

You are a bigoted asshole, and your words are the proof.

Some guy screwed up and hired a hit man. If he didn't believe in god, does that make all people that don't believe in god hypocritical assholes?

Saying all Christians are like one, well that is profiling. And we all know profiling is bad...
 
I wish this thread had a poll.... so we could vote on him guilty or not.
.... That would be fun ?
 
jcj":1lgztt78 said:
Moshaholic":1lgztt78 said:
I am really sad to hear this about Tim, I guess over the years he got to a place his life where the voice of satan became louder than the voice of God.

G.
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Seriously?

I'm not anti religion, but that's an abjectly ridiculous statement.

Are you really tossing out "the devil made me do it" as a justification?

Are we really at a point where we have ZERO accountability for our own actions?

I'm almost fucking speechless.
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Wow... talk about reading way too far into things and jumping to conclusions??? :thumbsdown:

I don't see anywhere in my post where I elude to the fact that his actions are "justified".

Tim is obviously responsible for his own choices, and conspiracy to commit murder is not a justifiable action under any circumstances.

I know Tim from way back in the early AILD era and he is obviously not the same person he used to be in respect to the faith he professed to have at one point in his life.

This can also be noted by the statement in his divorce papers. "Deputy Dist. Atty. Claudia Grasso said Lambesis several months ago sent his wife an email telling her that he no longer loved her or believed in God."

Anyway, I concluded that he came to place in his life where he chose to follow a dark path over a positive one, or the voice of satan over the voice of God. You don’t need to believe in a literal devil or a literal God to understand my point here.

By his own admission he gave up believing in God, so from a Christian perspective it is no wonder that he started on the path of living for himself and vanity, having extra marital affairs, and then he got so far away from his faith that he tried to have his wife killed for his own selfish motives.

I'm pretty sure if he had truly stayed on course with his faith; he most likely would not have allowed himself to make such poor choices and would not now be looking at 20 to life in prison.

At least he made it clear in the months prior to trying to have his wife killed he did not believe in God anymore, so in all fairness to those who have a giant boner for bashing Christians, painting him as "another Christian hypocrite" is kind of moot here IMO.

G.
 
not all people need god or religion to have morals. I know allot of people on here could never understand this but it's true. If in fact went crazy because he left his christian morals behind i think that speaks more to the ideas and beliefs he was molded by before he left his faith. I think the reality is some people are willing to either kill or have someone be killed by someone else. It's wrong and i don't feel like it needs to be looked into much more than that. It has much more to do with how you deal with things on an emotional level than anything else. Strange beliefs/trama/or chemical imbalances in the brain probably add up in this scenario.
 
Murder, religion, politics ..... This place is incapable of staying on topic. All for the better of course...
 
EXPcustom":3i8zj2tj said:
You people killed jesus voted for hubert humphrey. :thumbsdown:
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