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Ill recap

1 Ace in a total act of irrationality played his hand, which backfired on an epic scale.

2 Ace then calls everyone who disagrees with him "ignorant people cant seem to understand reading comprehension"

3 Brad and Rob then conduct a top secrete, underground partnership meeting in the Cameron Cone of silence.

4 Brads vote plus Robs vote = no amp for Ace of Spades
 
Four pages??

Interwebz drama :lol: :LOL:

To the op, if you don't get it, go back and read page 1. If it doesn't work, concentrate and read again page 1. If, again, it doesn't work, go back, concentrate more and read again. I think it's pretty clear.
 
There is nothing that can be said during a phone call that I wouldn't want publicly known or discussed.  Why is it so important for it to be private?  I have nothing to hide  

The alias allows me to protect my interest. 

Brad not posting or addressing me validates my knowledge and position. 
 
[/quote]There is nothing that can be said during a phone call that I wouldn't want publicly known or discussed.  Why is it so important for it to be private?  I have nothing to hide [/quote]
Other than who you are balless wonder..

[/quote]The alias allows me to protect my interest. [/quote]
You flushed your"interest" down the toilet...you have no interest.

[/quote]Brad not posting or addressing me validates my knowledge and position. [/quote]
Your "position' is bent over by Mr. Cameron...You have no knowledge...
 
Aceofspades":1xaluvn5 said:
There is nothing that can be said during a phone call that I wouldn't want publicly known or discussed.  Why is it so important for it to be private?  I have nothing to hide  

The alias allows me to protect my interest. 

Brad not posting or addressing me validates my knowledge and position. 

Dude WTF are you talking about I have addressed you several times in this thread. Your interest isn't protected. Your Out. Forget it. Go chase Mark Cameron around. You will not get an amp from us. My goodwill for you has expired.
 
I've yet to see a direct response to this below. Something tells me we never will. Don't address it for me, do it for the others that wait for owed amps.


 "What several people did confirm (and Brad never disputed) is that Mark gets a percentage of on-going profit or whatever. Since Brad admits that he doesn't know where Mark is, it still doesn't diminish or take away any of Mark's owed compensation.  Since nothing is being paid to Mark, why can't 100% of Mark's owed money be put to his debts and to be used for the owed CCV's ...at build cost?  Sure Brad is helping us, but it's not costing him anything financially at all!  It's coming all from Mark Cameron". 
 
Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
I want to keep this public and avoid the secrecy.
Yeah, it's public alright - the fact that you're a moron.

Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
Brad admitted that two people received owed CCV's.  Why was it kept secret that owed CCV's were even going out?
Maybe it was kept quiet so morons like you wouldn't post moronic threads about this and start demanding they have a CCV TODAY when they are not legally entitled to EVER receive a CCV from the new Cameron Amplification? Just a thought.....

Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
Why didn't the people who received the CCV's make posts about receiving the amps???
Maybe because they know enough to deal with this legacy nonsense quietly, so as not to disrespect Brad, Rob and Dave? Maybe because they have more common sense than you? Just a thought.....

Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
Why was their identity kept a secret.
Maybe because the people that received the amps simply wanted it that way? Maybe because they didn't want morons such as yourself making public statements about why they shouldn't have got their amps first? Maybe because Brad, Rob and Dave wanted it that way? Maybe because it really doesn't make any difference who got their amps first? Maybe its because Brad, Rob and Dave have NO OBLIGATION to make good on these amps at all, let alone in the order in which the deposits were originally paid to Mark and not to them? Just a thought.....

Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
This is the reason why I went 100% public.
Nah, you went public because you have poor judgment.

Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
This is why I didn't call.
Nah, you didn't call because you're a snivelling unick.

Aceofspades":1bqhz2no said:
So there are no "back door" deals.
Enough of the conspiracy theories. The only person that got "back doored" is you my friend, by Mark. Now, by being a moron (read: yourself), Brad and Co. have slammed the front door on you as well.


Now, jump in your car and be gone.....

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King Guitar":2cxrlp5v said:
Your interest isn't protected. Your Out. Forget it. Go chase Mark Cameron around. You will not get an amp from us. My goodwill for you has expired.

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You have burned the only bridge to salvation now.

Mark wrongly coaxed you out of the money, and Brad / Rob were still going to try and help you even though it was NOT going to benefit them, at all. NOW you have just completely fucked yourself.

I hope your veil of secrecy and hiding behind a fake name while "going public" , worked for you.

Computer IP addresses are very distinct..........




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Aceofspades":1nq1bbm5 said:
I've yet to see a direct response to this below. Something tells me we never will. Don't address it for me, do it for the others that wait for owed amps.


 "What several people did confirm (and Brad never disputed) is that Mark gets a percentage of on-going profit or whatever. Since Brad admits that he doesn't know where Mark is, it still doesn't diminish or take away any of Mark's owed compensation.  Since nothing is being paid to Mark, why can't 100% of Mark's owed money be put to his debts and to be used for the owed CCV's ...at build cost?  Sure Brad is helping us, but it's not costing him anything financially at all!  It's coming all from Mark Cameron". 

In the interests of being rationale, I will show you the way to the light. All amounts quoted are hypothetical, but likely not far from the truth.

Mark's licensing fee: 10% of net profits
Mark up percentage over the cost to produce a new production CCV: 75% (i.e., profit margin is 43%)
Total cost to produce 1 CCV: $2,000
Sale price of new production CCV: $3,500

Now, let's do some Grade 3 math using the above.....

Net profit, per sale: 43% * $3,500 = $1,500
Mark's licensing fee, per sale: 10% * $1,500 = $150
Total sales to-date: 50
Total licensing fees owed Mark, to-date: 50 * $150 = 7,500

Now, assuming the licensing agreement requires Brad, Rob and Dave to withhold 100% of Mark's licensing fees until such time that the cost of all CCV's owed have been covered (which is likely not the way the agreement with Mark was structured, given Mark's need for some immediate cashflow to fund his frozen pizza addiction), how many CCV's could the $7,500 cover? Again, let's do some Grade 3 math.....

Total licensing fees owed Mark to-date: $7,500
Total cost to produce 1 CCV: $2,000
Total CCVs covered by licensing fees owed to Mark to-date: 3

Considering "the story" is that Brad, Rob and Dave have delivered on 2 of the CCVs owed (albeit, they could in fact have delivered on more but simply choose not to broadcast this to the world), seems to me like they are tracking pretty well, no?.....

:confused:

Remind me never to buy a Honda. I would be scared to think how badly I was overcharged for the vehicle given some sales rep's inability to do basic arithmetic.....
 
OUTLAW1969":1dgb8de8 said:
You have burned the only bridge to salvation now.

Mark wrongly coaxed you out of the money, and Brad / Rob were still going to try and help you even though it was NOT going to benefit them, at all. NOW you have just completely fucked yourself.

I hope your veil of secrecy and hiding behind a fake name while "going public" , worked for you. Those IP addresses are a motherfucker..........
So which one is you.

4. turtlefingers
6. mdc1mdc11 (Mark)
8. chameleon
9. riffsfordaze
12. Wyatt Wood
 
rlord1974":3k84q2t7 said:
Aceofspades":3k84q2t7 said:
I've yet to see a direct response to this below. Something tells me we never will. Don't address it for me, do it for the others that wait for owed amps.


 "What several people did confirm (and Brad never disputed) is that Mark gets a percentage of on-going profit or whatever. Since Brad admits that he doesn't know where Mark is, it still doesn't diminish or take away any of Mark's owed compensation.  Since nothing is being paid to Mark, why can't 100% of Mark's owed money be put to his debts and to be used for the owed CCV's ...at build cost?  Sure Brad is helping us, but it's not costing him anything financially at all!  It's coming all from Mark Cameron". 

In the interests of being rationale, I will show you the way to the light. All amounts quoted are hypothetical, but likely not far from the truth.

Mark's licensing fee: 10% of net profits
Mark up percentage over the cost to produce a new production CCV: 75% (i.e., profit margin is 43%)
Total cost to produce 1 CCV: $2,000
Sale price of new production CCV: $3,500

Now, let's do some Grade 3 math using the above.....

Net profit, per sale: 43% * $3,500 = $1,500
Mark's licensing fee, per sale: 10% * $1,500 = $150
Total sales to-date: 50
Total licensing fees owed Mark, to-date: 50 * $150 = 7,500

Now, assuming the licensing agreement requires Brad, Rob and Dave to withhold 100% of Mark's licensing fees until such time that the cost of all CCV's owed have been covered (which is likely not the way the agreement with Mark was structured, given Mark's need for some immediate cashflow to fund his frozen pizza addiction), how many CCV's could the $7,500 cover? Again, let's do some Grade 3 math.....

Total licensing fees owed Mark to-date: $7,500
Total cost to produce 1 CCV: $2,000
Total CCVs covered by licensing fees owed to Mark to-date: 3

Considering "the story" is that Brad, Rob and Dave have delivered on 2 of the CCVs owed (albeit, they could in fact have delivered on more but simply choose not to broadcast this to the world), seems to me like they are tracking pretty well, no?.....

:confused:

Remind me never to buy a Honda. I would be scared to think how badly I was overcharged for the vehicle given some sales rep's inability to do basic arithmetic.....


AMEN!!!! Great breakdown! I guarantee you none of this makes sense to Ace, but great job nonetheless!!
 
glip22":3j65t0yb said:
OUTLAW1969":3j65t0yb said:
You have burned the only bridge to salvation now.

Mark wrongly coaxed you out of the money, and Brad / Rob were still going to try and help you even though it was NOT going to benefit them, at all. NOW you have just completely fucked yourself.

I hope your veil of secrecy and hiding behind a fake name while "going public" , worked for you. Those IP addresses are a motherfucker..........
So which one is you.

4. turtlefingers
6. mdc1mdc11 (Mark)
8. chameleon
9. riffsfordaze
12. Wyatt Wood
A quick trip through some of their posts should shine a light...writing styles tend to be rather unique.

The only thing that I got out of this thread is that some douchebag has sullied the name of a Motorhead classic :thumbsdown:
 
My interpretation of what the OP is asking/doing:

"Hey Brad, I f*cked up, and though you have no obligation to do so, I expect you to make it right which means I think you now have an obligation to me to make everything right for me, even though I never gave you a penny.

I also never called to speak to you one on one as you requested, as I'm an anonymous coward and I just want to try and disrespect and descredit you and your partners publicly in your own house. I do this in hopes you will give me something that you don't owe me, cuz I think you should owe me (in my own little self-entitled world, this all makes sense, see?).

As a whining and sniveling douche-nozzle, I will continue ignore your posts and the fact that you actually don't have any reason or obligation to do anything for me (except in my own mind as mentioned above, as a whining, sniveling douche-nozzle) and call you out on your own forum because you must have some kind of secret plot to keep me from getting what Cameron owes me. BTW, I'm not doing this for me, I'm doing this for others. So, to recap, when do I get my new amp (with free shipping) from you?".

Did I miss anything? :confused:
 
Aceofspades":1i6oaasy said:
I've yet to see a direct response to this below. Something tells me we never will. Don't address it for me, do it for the others that wait for owed amps.


 "What several people did confirm (and Brad never disputed) is that Mark gets a percentage of on-going profit or whatever. Since Brad admits that he doesn't know where Mark is, it still doesn't diminish or take away any of Mark's owed compensation.  Since nothing is being paid to Mark, why can't 100% of Mark's owed money be put to his debts and to be used for the owed CCV's ...at build cost?  Sure Brad is helping us, but it's not costing him anything financially at all!  It's coming all from Mark Cameron". 

My business deals are none of your business my friend. You have no contract with me and I owe you nothing. Safe to say we have council and everything is done by the book. The contract with Mark was very specific and had remedies if he breeched the agreement. Thats all you get, both literality and figuratively so once again good luck being made whole by Mark Cameron. BTW the window has also closed on me wanting to take a call from you. Your position of not wanting to ID yourself here so you can still line up down the road for goodwill is laughable.

Your Out my man. Im a rescue swimmer and your pulling everyone else under the water trying to save your own ass. Guess what, we will let you drown and try to help the ones we can with the resources at hand.

That is all.
 
rupe":dwaagsgy said:
The only thing that I got out of this thread is that some douchebag has sullied the name of a Motorhead classic :thumbsdown:

I think it's impossible that anyone, or anything, could sully Lem and the boys:



But your point is well-taken rupe: you can't really separate the douche from the bag, regardless of what name he chooses . . .
 
twenty4_7spy":1juofjx0 said:
rupe":1juofjx0 said:
The only thing that I got out of this thread is that some douchebag has sullied the name of a Motorhead classic :thumbsdown:

I think it's impossible that anyone, or anything, could sully Lem and the boys:



But your point is well-taken rupe: you can't really separate the douche from the bag, regardless of what name he chooses . . .
Thanks for that...glad you proved me wrong :rock:
 
twenty4_7spy":1n394do9 said:
rupe":1n394do9 said:
The only thing that I got out of this thread is that some douchebag has sullied the name of a Motorhead classic :thumbsdown:

I think it's impossible that anyone, or anything, could sully Lem and the boys:



But your point is well-taken rupe: you can't really separate the douche from the bag, regardless of what name he chooses . . .
You will go deaf anywhere close to that stage :yes:
 
Hey Ace, this is the only life line you have - Call Mark Cameron - 800-Got- Scammed

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