AxeFx II vs Kemper?

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Let's say you decided to sell your tube amplifiers in favor of a simulation rig. Which would you choose: AxeFx II or Kemper?
 
here we go again...
for me it is the Axe fx II, i tried many times the Kemper but it doesnt feel right to my hands...
BUT

When i listen on youtube I am always impressed...

What do you think??
 
clark81":1tmcz1ce said:
here we go again...
for me it is the Axe fx II, i tried many times the Kemper but it doesnt feel right to my hands...
BUT

When i listen on youtube I am always impressed...

What do you think??
I found one Axe vs Kemper clip. I thought the AxeFx sounded better - but clips are that way...
 
TrueTone500":rf413fdc said:
I found one Axe vs Kemper clip. I thought the AxeFx sounded better - but clips are that way...
Yeh I think I watched the same clip. Axe was beating out the Kemper overall. But I think it was in the settings.
Hard to judge unless you can plug in both for yourself. :yes:
I never had either......and only way to find out is take the PLUNGE! :D
 
Both are great. Kemper was better for awhile and fractal really stepped up to improve their sound. Axe always had this high end artificial thing I just never jived with where Kemper was more raw and sounded right to me. Kind of a toss up now I just still prefer Kemper layout and workflow for me so if I had to choose today still would be Kemper
 
Only one, axe fx 2.

But I say both in order to compare and decide what you like better for your ears and needs.
 
Audioholic":2gjty29o said:
Both are great. Kemper was better for awhile and fractal really stepped up to improve their sound. Axe always had this high end artificial thing I just never jived with where Kemper was more raw and sounded right to me. Kind of a toss up now I just still prefer Kemper layout and workflow for me so if I had to choose today still would be Kemper
It think the appearance of the Kemper may be throwing me off a bit? To me it looks like a suitcase. :doh:
 
Also,you would need to have the kemper before you sell your amps if you want to profile them or have access to others. I could never see myself just using other people's profiles exclusively.
 
I think its unfair to compare to the kemper to the axe for a number of reasons, but one that alot of people forget: WHAT YOU PUT IN IS WHAT YOU GET OUT. The problem with profiling is not that, "hey im doing everything to profile it correctly, but the kemper can't capture it". That is not the case. If the profile doesn't come out well, YOU didn't do something right to profile your amp. Basically, garbage in, garbage out. If the profile sounds like garbage, it's more than likely user error, not the fault of the kemper, and this is something to remember when thinking about the kemper vs axe thing. The opposite is also 100 percent true. If the profile sounds great, accurate to the amp, feel etc, the profiling setup was probably done right on the user end. The kemper catches it all: beauty, or garbage.

As far as me and my needs, the kemper would be my choice, no question.
 
VESmedic":aryq39sq said:
I think its unfair to compare to the kemper to the axe for a number of reasons, but one that alot of people forget: WHAT YOU PUT IN IS WHAT YOU GET OUT. The problem with profiling is not that, "hey im doing everything to profile it correctly, but the kemper can't capture it". That is not the case. If the profile doesn't come out well, YOU didn't do something right to profile your amp. Basically, garbage in, garbage out. If the profile sounds like garbage, it's more than likely user error, not the fault of the kemper, and this is something to remember when thinking about the kemper vs axe thing. The opposite is also 100 percent true. If the profile sounds great, accurate to the amp, feel etc, the profiling setup was probably done right on the user end. The kemper catches it all: beauty, or garbage.

As far as me and my needs, the kemper would be my choice, no question.
So what happens if I 'profile' my amp, but want to then back-off on the preamp gain. How does the Kemper duplicate the sound of my tube amp if I haven't profiled it using the revised setting? Do I have to make multiple profiles at various settings? How does the Kemper know what my amp sounds like at lower preamp settings?
 
TrueTone500":3ququ1pe said:
VESmedic":3ququ1pe said:
I think its unfair to compare to the kemper to the axe for a number of reasons, but one that alot of people forget: WHAT YOU PUT IN IS WHAT YOU GET OUT. The problem with profiling is not that, "hey im doing everything to profile it correctly, but the kemper can't capture it". That is not the case. If the profile doesn't come out well, YOU didn't do something right to profile your amp. Basically, garbage in, garbage out. If the profile sounds like garbage, it's more than likely user error, not the fault of the kemper, and this is something to remember when thinking about the kemper vs axe thing. The opposite is also 100 percent true. If the profile sounds great, accurate to the amp, feel etc, the profiling setup was probably done right on the user end. The kemper catches it all: beauty, or garbage.

As far as me and my needs, the kemper would be my choice, no question.
So what happens if I 'profile' my amp, but want to then back-off on the preamp gain. How does the Kemper duplicate the sound of my tube amp if I haven't profiled it using the revised setting? Do I have to make multiple profiles at various settings? How does the Kemper know what my amp sounds like at lower preamp settings?


The kemper has a gain knob, you can add or subtract, sounds very good to me. When profiling, their is a dynamic to the signal, which I believe is helping capture various levels and ranges. While the gain past a few clicks probably isn't replicating exactly what your amp would do, and it would be best to profile a few gain settings, still I find the gain knob very workable and sounds good to me.
 
I'm curious about which is better too. I'm getting tired of my MTS setup. It might be time for a change...
 
Audioholic":1wcwdk7b said:
TrueTone500":1wcwdk7b said:
VESmedic":1wcwdk7b said:
I think its unfair to compare to the kemper to the axe for a number of reasons, but one that alot of people forget: WHAT YOU PUT IN IS WHAT YOU GET OUT. The problem with profiling is not that, "hey im doing everything to profile it correctly, but the kemper can't capture it". That is not the case. If the profile doesn't come out well, YOU didn't do something right to profile your amp. Basically, garbage in, garbage out. If the profile sounds like garbage, it's more than likely user error, not the fault of the kemper, and this is something to remember when thinking about the kemper vs axe thing. The opposite is also 100 percent true. If the profile sounds great, accurate to the amp, feel etc, the profiling setup was probably done right on the user end. The kemper catches it all: beauty, or garbage.

As far as me and my needs, the kemper would be my choice, no question.
So what happens if I 'profile' my amp, but want to then back-off on the preamp gain. How does the Kemper duplicate the sound of my tube amp if I haven't profiled it using the revised setting? Do I have to make multiple profiles at various settings? How does the Kemper know what my amp sounds like at lower preamp settings?


The kemper has a gain knob, you can add or subtract, sounds very good to me. When profiling, their is a dynamic to the signal, which I believe is helping capture various levels and ranges. While the gain past a few clicks probably isn't replicating exactly what your amp would do, and it would be best to profile a few gain settings, still I find the gain knob very workable and sounds good to me.
A different beast compared to the AxeFx then. The Kemper would be perfect for profiling vintage amplifiers that you would never take on the road. In theory anyway...
 
2 units with 2 different approaches to offering the same end result.

It depends on how you want to go about getting to that end. They're not apples-to-apples. I have an Axe-II, and the more I'm learning about it and getting into it, I am becoming more and more impressed with it. Peeling back the layers, creating a simple chain with a touch of reverb to give 'space' in the room? It sounds really good. And it does a hella lot more, hella good.

Honestly the only put-off is the FAS community's collective consciousness and at times, their way of communicating to the masses. But this is up to me how I process or accept it. I take what I want and need, and leave the rest.
 
At this point in the game I really don't think there is a "better" of the two.
It's more like what will work best for you and what you do and the only person who can answer that is you by trying both and seeing which one leaves a bigger smile on your face.

I plan on owning both before to long but such is the life of a gear whore.
 
why not use the amps and get a Two-Notes LIVE. I've said it a million times - best of both worlds ;)
 

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