AxeFx insanity....

[Digital Jams]

2010 that will be my big purchuse, made up my mind after Degenaro's slaved videos and of course my gear consultant Ralphie.

Marshalls aint going nowhere though

 

[rsm]

Yes. Seller's remorse since I sold my Ultra. It is overkill for my needs, but so what! For what I used it for it worked extremely well. I'm happy with my Vox ToneLab, but I see an Axe-Fx Standard in my future.

I think you pointed out what was my biggest challenge: not having the real amp to AB my Axe-Fx with. So I was always guessing or approximating...

And yes, once you learn how to use the Axe-Fx effectively, it is near limitless in capabilities IMO (especially the Ultra). I have nothing bad to say about these units, guess when I sold it I was having one of those "momentary lapse of reason" moments.

Since I don't have access to a collection of classic amps, I've collected a few links to clips of amp/cabs demo sounds that I want to duplicate with my set-up; for now I will use my ToneLab to do this until I have the funds for the Standard. Of course, if the ToneLab works for this, well...it may be a longer wait for getting another Axe-Fx, but another one is at the top of my gear acquisition list.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

Love mine to death and Im never getting rid of it. Sure, theres amps Id like to try but in the end, Im convinced that everything someone could want is within the AF's ability to reproduce, its up to the user to bring it out. If you cant, it isnt the AxeFx's fault IMO

Kage -

I agree with this 100%. I will admit that having Jason tweaking stuff and already being very into the unit was a huge plus. He was able to quickly dial up tones that worked as soon as I suggested something. Also the realization that Jason could basically email me the patches that he came up with and interesting tweaks is intriguing...cmon, how easy is that ????

How bout' the fact that you can even adjust the tube bias of the amp being moddled ???? at one point we set the XTC patch bias at 73 it sounded KILLER

Danyeo - the Mark IV patches were some of my favorites actually: Sykes in a box
The Fryette / VHT patches were killer, so were the Dr. Z Maz 38 patches. The ability to run two different amps at the same time hooked me though - you can get a killer clean tone dialed up and run another amp buried in the back for a bit of hair, or run an allout drive patch with some clean mixed in. Really the possibilities are endless with this. I could still see using only a few of the patches in it and being happy with the results.

Even Jason said the first versions of the programs sucked...I'm glad that I got to hear this thing after it was getting up to its real potential. I would imagine that at the pace the firmware is being updated in another year some people will be blown away.

Ejecta - Bogner is stock, there's nothing to change in that amp

This box is a completely viable option. Heh, even my wife was impressed - and she's more jaded than all of us having suffered through my amp ADD

 

[blackba]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

 

[Digital Jams]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

axefx would be at least $500 less and brings a ton more to the table.

 

[blackba]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

axefx would be at least $500 less and brings a ton more to the table.

Not if you factor in I would get the ultra, want a Foot controller and want to get a power amp (though I could run it through my mark IV for a while). Its not like I have the money for a mesa mark V right now either.

I agree the Axe-Fx can do a lot more than the mark V, so I will probably go that way eventually.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

Well, the only way I could get one would be to sell my Bogner, and I'm really struggling with that - so unless that happens I'm drooling with everybody else...as far as time goes, I agree that there is a learning curve but seriously you can have sounds / patches sent to you via email to upload into the unit...you need some sort of basic midi box to transfer apparently. I know for a fact that the XTC Classic patch Jason created is near spot on - "You've got mail" and you've got those tones

 

[Digital Jams]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

axefx would be at least $500 less and brings a ton more to the table.

Not if you factor in I would get the ultra, want a Foot controller and want to get a power amp (though I could run it through my mark IV for a while).

Its not like I have the money for a mesa mark V right now either....

Yeah, I was going by a power amp was already in place and no foot controller.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

I would like to know until what version Jason thought it sucked because I bought in again over the version 5 hype, wasn't impressed.

I don't know man, this was version 7. something or other...whatever it was it worked.

Digi - saving $500 ???? sheeeit man, saving $50,000 in amps

Axe-Fx name ~ Amp simulated
TUBE PRE - Generic Tube Preamp
JAZZ - Roland JC120
BROWNFACE - Fender Vibroverb
BLUES - Fender Bassman
TWEED - Fender Deluxe Reverb Model AB763
BLACKFACE - Fender Twin
CLASS A - Vox AC30
TOP BOOST - Vox AC30TB
PLEXI 1 - Marshall '1959'
BRIT 800 - Marshall JCM800 2204
BRIT 900 - Marshall JCM900
BROWN - Eddie's Modded Marshall
BOUTIQUE 1 - Matchless Chieftain
BOUTIQUE 2 - Matchless Chieftain w/ Booster
HIPOWER 1 - Hiwatt 'Normal' Channel
HIPOWER 2 - Hiwatt 'Brilliant' Channel
USA CLEAN - MKIV and Triaxis Clean
USA RHY1 - MKIV Crunch
USA RHY2 - Triaxis LD1 Green
USA LEAD - MKIV Lead
USA LEAD 2 - Triaxis LD2 Yellow
RECTO Orange - Mesa Dual Rectifier (version 1)
RECTO Red - Triaxis LD1 Red w/"recto mod". The power amp portion is identical to Recto1.
SOLO 100 - Soldano SLO100
SPEC. OD 1 - Dumble Overdrive Special Clean
SPEC. OD 2 - Dumble Overdrive Special Lead
EURO 1 - Bogner Ecstasy w/ Gain Boost Off and Structure Off
EURO 2 - Bogner Ecstasy w/ Gain Boost On and Structure On
UK GC30 - Laney GC30V
BUTTERY - Loosely based on a Budda Twinmaster
METAL - FAS Custom Model
BIG HAIR - FAS Custom Model
HELLBEAST - FAS Custom Model
SUPERTWEED - FAS Custom Model
FUSION - FAS Custom Model
FAS CLEAN - FAS Custom Model
FAS CRUNCH - FAS Custom Model
FAS LEAD 1 - FAS Custom Model
FAS LEAD 2 - FAS Custom Model
FAS MODERN - FAS Custom Model
JR BLUES - Fender Blues Jr.
BRIT PRE - Marshall JMP-1 preamp. The power amp is from the JCM 800
ENERGYBALL - ENGL Powerball Lead Channel
RECTO NEW - Mesa Dual Rectifier with an extra "cap" in it which gives it more sizzle.
HAD ODS 1 - Dumble Overdrive Special (Based on a real amp, the others were based on schematics)
WRECKER 1 - Trainwreck Amp
BRIT JM45 - Marshall JTM-45
DAS METALL - Diezel VH4 (needs confirmation that it's the VH4)
PLEXI 2 = Similar to Plexi 1 but with a different “bright cap” value and different transformer
model. Lower gain and more “vintage” sounding.

SV BASS - Ampeg SVT
CA3+ RHY - Custom Audio Electronics 3+ SE preamp, channel # 2 (crunch)
CA3+ LD - Custom Audio Electronics 3+ SE preamp, channel # 3 (lead)
Eggie R20 - Egnater Rebel 20
USA MIIC+ 1 - Mesa Boogie MkII Lead Pull Bright off
USA MIIC+ 2 - Mesa Boogie MkII Lead Pull Bright on
Fryer D60L - VHT Deliverance 60 Less switched
Fryer D60M - VHT Deliverance 60 More switched
Mr. Z 38 SR - Dr. Z Maz 38 SR
Euro Uber - Bogner Ubershall
PVH 5105 - Peavey 5150
Solo X99 Clean - Soldano X99 Clean Channel
Solo X99 Rhythm - Soldano X99 Rhythm Channel
Solo X99 Lead - Soldano X99 Lead Channel
Corncob R100 - Cornford RK100

Enough amps for you ????? BTW - the Plexi patch sounded really good

 

[Digital Jams]

I would like to know until what version Jason thought it sucked because I bought in again over the version 5 hype, wasn't impressed.

I don't know man, this was version 7. something or other...whatever it was it worked.

Digi - saving $500 ???? sheeeit man, saving $50,000 in amps


Enough amps for you ????? BTW - the Plexi patch sounded really good

I am waiting for Cliff.....COUGH COUGH........to have an open house or something since he is very close to me

Dumble..............I was waiting for Lerner to comment on those patches in detail as he had an axefx to demo long term and I never saw a review.

JC-120????? Not sure if that one was needed....well maybe for the metallica fans

 

[ejecta]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

Well, the only way I could get one would be to sell my Bogner, and I'm really struggling with that - so unless that happens I'm drooling with everybody else...as far as time goes, I agree that there is a learning curve but seriously you can have sounds / patches sent to you via email to upload into the unit...you need some sort of basic midi box to transfer apparently. I know for a fact that the XTC Classic patch Jason created is near spot on - "You've got mail" and you've got those tones

If you have a modded Bogner let me know if you decide to sell.

 

[ejecta]

I would like to know until what version Jason thought it sucked because I bought in again over the version 5 hype, wasn't impressed.

I don't know man, this was version 7. something or other...whatever it was it worked.

That's cool, but seriously, if your buddy Jason had it for a while now, I'd really like to know at what version he though it didn't suck any more and if he meant as far as effects or the amp modeling.

Flava Flav says "Dont believe the hype!" Im joking fellas.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

Flava Flav says "Dont believe the hype!" Im joking fellas.

Flav also couldn't decide between Thing II and Thing III...I'll trust my ears

Also, my Classic is not modded - see no reason to mess with that...I'll let you know though if its gonna go...Wallis gets first crack at it though.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

Well, the only way I could get one would be to sell my Bogner, and I'm really struggling with that - so unless that happens I'm drooling with everybody else...as far as time goes, I agree that there is a learning curve but seriously you can have sounds / patches sent to you via email to upload into the unit...you need some sort of basic midi box to transfer apparently. I know for a fact that the XTC Classic patch Jason created is near spot on - "You've got mail" and you've got those tones

If you have a modded Bogner let me know if you decide to sell.

I have a Cameron Modded 101B...but I'm not looking to sell it

 

[Anonymous]

Axe-FX Ultra + 7.04 firmware = The Shit.

If you are a tone freak who digs tweaking and needs a large variety of killer tones, get one.

Steve

P.S. - Dweezil Zappa's latest Eruption preset he posted at Axechange sounds EXACTLY like the VH I album with my old Kramer guitar w/Mojave pickup recorded direct.... Very nice use of the MBC to tweak it to the album and the plexi cab impulses make a HUGE difference... I also dig how he used the pitch shifter to downtune 1/2 step. You can use a guitar tuned standard with this presest and simply kick in the pitch shifter to get to E flat... nice... If you have an Ultra and enjoy VH I tone, I highly recommend it... I'm gonna do a VH I clip with it, but not Eruption... too many of those already...

Steve

 

[Digital Jams]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

Well, the only way I could get one would be to sell my Bogner, and I'm really struggling with that - so unless that happens I'm drooling with everybody else...as far as time goes, I agree that there is a learning curve but seriously you can have sounds / patches sent to you via email to upload into the unit...you need some sort of basic midi box to transfer apparently. I know for a fact that the XTC Classic patch Jason created is near spot on - "You've got mail" and you've got those tones

If you have a modded Bogner let me know if you decide to sell.

I have a Cameron Modded 101B...but I'm not looking to sell it

I hate to say it, but the AxeFX is the very reason I sold that Cameron to you............
After A/Bing the AxeFX's preamp to the Cameron preamp through it's own power section.....well you know what happened next.

Not to discount that 101b what so ever, it's a baaaaaaad ass amp for sure. The Axe can get 98% of the way there with the 101b's power section behind it. I've got a early VHT 2/50/2 on it's way (can run 6l6 & el34), so we'll see if it gets me back to that same tone/feel as the 101b power section did.

DAMN!!!!!!

Two guys thinking or flat out dumping XTCs for the axefx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Done fucking deal, I needs me a standard

 

[Digital Jams]

Axe-FX Ultra + 7.04 firmware = The Shit.

If you are a tone freak who digs tweaking and needs a large variety of killer tones, get one.

Steve

P.S. - Dweezil Zappa's latest Eruption preset he posted at Axechange sounds EXACTLY like the VH I album with my old Kramer guitar w/Mojave pickup recorded direct.... Very nice use of the MBC to tweak it to the album and the plexi cab impulses make a HUGE difference... I also dig how he used the pitch shifter to downtune 1/2 step. You can use a guitar tuned standard with this presest and simply kick in the pitch shifter to get to E flat... nice... If you have an Ultra and enjoy VH I tone, I highly recommend it... I'm gonna do a VH I clip with it, but not Eruption... too many of those already...

Steve

Closer than your old PM??

 

[Anonymous]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

Well, the only way I could get one would be to sell my Bogner, and I'm really struggling with that - so unless that happens I'm drooling with everybody else...as far as time goes, I agree that there is a learning curve but seriously you can have sounds / patches sent to you via email to upload into the unit...you need some sort of basic midi box to transfer apparently. I know for a fact that the XTC Classic patch Jason created is near spot on - "You've got mail" and you've got those tones

If you have a modded Bogner let me know if you decide to sell.

I have a Cameron Modded 101B...but I'm not looking to sell it

I hate to say it, but the AxeFX is the very reason I sold that Cameron to you............
After A/Bing the AxeFX's preamp to the Cameron preamp through it's own power section.....well you know what happened next.

Not to discount that 101b what so ever, it's a baaaaaaad ass amp for sure. The Axe can get 98% of the way there with the 101b's power section behind it. I've got a early VHT 2/50/2 on it's way (can run 6l6 & el34), so we'll see if it gets me back to that same tone/feel as the 101b power section did.

DAMN!!!!!!

Two guys thinking or flat out dumping XTCs for the axefx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Done fucking deal, I needs me a standard

Get an Ultra. Trust me on this. Once you see what Dweezil did, you'll want the MBC...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

Axe-FX Ultra + 7.04 firmware = The Shit.

If you are a tone freak who digs tweaking and needs a large variety of killer tones, get one.

Steve

P.S. - Dweezil Zappa's latest Eruption preset he posted at Axechange sounds EXACTLY like the VH I album with my old Kramer guitar w/Mojave pickup recorded direct.... Very nice use of the MBC to tweak it to the album and the plexi cab impulses make a HUGE difference... I also dig how he used the pitch shifter to downtune 1/2 step. You can use a guitar tuned standard with this presest and simply kick in the pitch shifter to get to E flat... nice... If you have an Ultra and enjoy VH I tone, I highly recommend it... I'm gonna do a VH I clip with it, but not Eruption... too many of those already...

Steve

Closer than your old PM??

Closer than any amp I've ever played in person and closer than any of the millions of clips I've heard of it from old Plexis, Metros, you name it. Spot on to the album version... It's just stupid...

Steve

 

[AmpliFIRE]

There are only 2 things holding me back from getting one. Time and money. I don't have the funds right now and when I get one I want to have enough time to spend to really dig in. However, I am thinking I may be better to get an Axe-Fx than go for a mesa mark V. By the time I get one there will be a version 2 I bet.


BTW does anyone know have often the firmware is being updated, just curious....

Well, the only way I could get one would be to sell my Bogner, and I'm really struggling with that - so unless that happens I'm drooling with everybody else...as far as time goes, I agree that there is a learning curve but seriously you can have sounds / patches sent to you via email to upload into the unit...you need some sort of basic midi box to transfer apparently. I know for a fact that the XTC Classic patch Jason created is near spot on - "You've got mail" and you've got those tones

If you have a modded Bogner let me know if you decide to sell.

I have a Cameron Modded 101B...but I'm not looking to sell it

I hate to say it, but the AxeFX is the very reason I sold that Cameron to you............
After A/Bing the AxeFX's preamp to the Cameron preamp through it's own power section.....well you know what happened next.

Not to discount that 101b what so ever, it's a baaaaaaad ass amp for sure. The Axe can get 98% of the way there with the 101b's power section behind it. I've got a early VHT 2/50/2 on it's way (can run 6l6 & el34), so we'll see if it gets me back to that same tone/feel as the 101b power section did.

That's cool...but I'm honestly not much of a tweaker. I've been happy as hell with trying various tube amps over the years, (especially your old XTC) and I'm pretty much of the mind set of keep it simple and if it ain't broke, don't fix it...