BEWARE OF BOGNERMANIAC - HE SOLD ME A FAKE CAMERON

[232cap]

I will add that the amp sounds great even if it is ugly.

 

[OUTLAW1969]

If anyone is moderating, I think it's time to delete or close this down. I think enough eyeballs have seen it already.

Thanks Rig-Talkers,

Alex

This is a pet peeve of mine. Threads should stay to help us all remain more accountable for what we say/write.

Agree.

Locked if necessary, but not deleted.

 

[halebox]

So its an FJA and it sounds great. I would still buy from bogner. He goes through more camerons than anyone so if your in the market in the future it may very likely be from him. Most his dealing from what I can tell have been solid. This is the problem when someone copies cameron mods and sell them without stating for a fact that they were not done by him. You receive a hot potato. I bet bogner bought it thinking it was a real cameron. Lets trace it back so Splawner please step up. There is a 5150 and others floating around with fake "cameron" mods. We should document these or write on the chassis. I saw this on ebay and knew it wasnt real then it disapeared. Chippy got a refund so all is good in my book. Bogner should get FJA a sticker and cover the cameron logo.
After it passes hands a few times a fake becomes a real so stop billy blading these amps!!
"Tech cameron mod?"
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=149436&hilit=cameron
"Nick Cameron mod?"
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=146421&hilit=cameron

 

[bonedarrell]

Bognermaniac did the right thing.

He sent me a refund which in my book clears his good name and restores confidence that he will handle misunderstanding's with honor.

I read the description as a "Mark Cameron" build when it was Eric's intention of selling an amp that was built to the exact spec of an Aldrich/Jose. Misunderstanding and I am ready to move on.

Thank you Eric

Thank you RigTalkers and friends

Not so fast Mr Chippy. With all the wrangling you had to do to get your money back....I'm glad you did, but "clears his good name and restores confidence". ?

Yes, Eric's name should be cleared. One lesson that should be learned here. If it looks and smells like a turd........
Most of us know what real Cameron amps and his mods look like. If something looks a little "off", just ask more specific questions. Like, "Hey do you have any documentation that this amp was built buy Mark Cameron?" Or "Was this amp really built by Mark Cameron?". I am sure Eric would have answered those questions honestly and this mess would have been prevented. I do agree that the ad was misleading, but come on.........the amp looked nothing like something Mark would build especially with a new "CAMERON" logo. Curiosity should have been raised and more specific questions should have been asked IMO. Glad it all worked out though.

 

[Erock]

Bognermaniac did the right thing.

He sent me a refund which in my book clears his good name and restores confidence that he will handle misunderstanding's with honor.

I read the description as a "Mark Cameron" build when it was Eric's intention of selling an amp that was built to the exact spec of an Aldrich/Jose. Misunderstanding and I am ready to move on.

Thank you Eric

Thank you RigTalkers and friends

Not so fast Mr Chippy. With all the wrangling you had to do to get your money back....I'm glad you did, but "clears his good name and restores confidence". ?

Yes, Eric's name should be cleared. One lesson that should be learned here. If it looks and smells like a turd........
Most of us know what real Cameron amps and his mods look like. If something looks a little "off", just ask more specific questions. Like, "Hey do you have any documentation that this amp was built buy Mark Cameron?" Or "Was this amp really built by Mark Cameron?". I am sure Eric would have answered those questions honestly and this mess would have been prevented. I do agree that the ad was misleading, but come on.........the amp looked nothing like something Mark would build especially with a new "CAMERON" logo. Curiosity should have been raised and more specific questions should have been asked IMO. Glad it all worked out though.

Eh, you shouldn't have to decipher an ad IMO. Also, have you seen some of the actual mods mark has done? They may sound godly, but some of them looked crazy.

 

[joepete77]

This was listed on ebay yesterday or day before I believe. It did say that it was a ground up Cameron build, even mentioning that mark blacked out the component values rather then goop it as he does his Marshall mods. I will say this though, although not the best looking amp , the clips of that thing sounded excellent! Many players who aren't as worried about looks would love to rock that sleeper toaster amp!! Pretty cool to have hg Jose and Aldrich features and tones on one small amp.

 

[rlord1974]

 

[Tone Monster]

So who actually built this thing? FJA or dawn?

 

[TrueTone500]

I've purchased amplifiers from Bognermanic with no issues or hassles whatsoever.

 

[Bob Savage]

Yes, Eric's name should be cleared. One lesson that should be learned here. If it looks and smells like a turd........
Most of us know what real Cameron amps and his mods look like. If something looks a little "off", just ask more specific questions. Like, "Hey do you have any documentation that this amp was built buy Mark Cameron?" Or "Was this amp really built by Mark Cameron?". I am sure Eric would have answered those questions honestly and this mess would have been prevented. I do agree that the ad was misleading, but come on.........the amp looked nothing like something Mark would build especially with a new "CAMERON" logo. Curiosity should have been raised and more specific questions should have been asked IMO. Glad it all worked out though.

If this is where we are now with purchasing used gear then I'll stick with new name brands only. There's always three sides to a story but from what I've read here, no name has been cleared.

This was listed on ebay yesterday or day before I believe. It did say that it was a ground up Cameron build, even mentioning that mark blacked out the component values rather then goop it as he does his Marshall mods. I will say this though, although not the best looking amp , the clips of that thing sounded excellent! Many players who aren't as worried about looks would love to rock that sleeper toaster amp!! Pretty cool to have hg Jose and Aldrich features and tones on one small amp.

Do you have a link to the ended auction?

 

[jcj]

Bognermaniac did the right thing.

He sent me a refund which in my book clears his good name and restores confidence that he will handle misunderstanding's with honor.

I read the description as a "Mark Cameron" build when it was Eric's intention of selling an amp that was built to the exact spec of an Aldrich/Jose. Misunderstanding and I am ready to move on.

Thank you Eric

Thank you RigTalkers and friends

Not so fast Mr Chippy. With all the wrangling you had to do to get your money back....I'm glad you did, but "clears his good name and restores confidence". ?

Yes, Eric's name should be cleared. One lesson that should be learned here. If it looks and smells like a turd........
Most of us know what real Cameron amps and his mods look like. If something looks a little "off", just ask more specific questions. Like, "Hey do you have any documentation that this amp was built buy Mark Cameron?" Or "Was this amp really built by Mark Cameron?". I am sure Eric would have answered those questions honestly and this mess would have been prevented. I do agree that the ad was misleading, but come on.........the amp looked nothing like something Mark would build especially with a new "CAMERON" logo. Curiosity should have been raised and more specific questions should have been asked IMO. Glad it all worked out though.

Pure horseshit. .

If he knew it wasn't built by Mark, it shouldn't have been advertised that way; if he didn't know, I'm not buying the ad would have been worded to be deliberately misleading.

Are you really suggesting a potential buyer should have to ask if an amp was "really" built by Mark, or if he has any documentation?

Last I checked, Mark didn't offer COA's..

Irrespective of those points, he refused a refund after being told it wasn't genuine.

For me, end of story.

FWIW, there is no "typical looking" Cameron build; I've had a ton of them, and they're all different.

I never felt compelled to have him sign one.

Ridiculous defense of an obviously shady fuck.

 

[November5th]

Yet another episode of As The Cameron Turns.

 

[xzyryabx]

This was listed on ebay yesterday or day before I believe. It did say that it was a ground up Cameron build, even mentioning that mark blacked out the component values rather then goop it as he does his Marshall mods. I will say this though, although not the best looking amp , the clips of that thing sounded excellent! Many players who aren't as worried about looks would love to rock that sleeper toaster amp!! Pretty cool to have hg Jose and Aldrich features and tones on one small amp.

That's so sketch.
This is as shady as it gets, and numerous previous good trades do nothing to make this less of a fraud.
IMHO he was looking for a sucker.

 

[jcj]

This was listed on ebay yesterday or day before I believe. It did say that it was a ground up Cameron build, even mentioning that mark blacked out the component values rather then goop it as he does his Marshall mods. I will say this though, although not the best looking amp , the clips of that thing sounded excellent! Many players who aren't as worried about looks would love to rock that sleeper toaster amp!! Pretty cool to have hg Jose and Aldrich features and tones on one small amp.

That's so sketch.
This is as shady as it gets, and numerous previous good trades do nothing to make this less of a fraud.
IMHO he was looking for a sucker.

Yup.

 

[rlord1974]

Pretty cool to have hg Jose and Aldrich features and tones on one small amp.

Who says it does? The ad, that was wholly accurate?

 

[bonedarrell]

Bognermaniac did the right thing.

He sent me a refund which in my book clears his good name and restores confidence that he will handle misunderstanding's with honor.

I read the description as a "Mark Cameron" build when it was Eric's intention of selling an amp that was built to the exact spec of an Aldrich/Jose. Misunderstanding and I am ready to move on.

Thank you Eric

Thank you RigTalkers and friends

Not so fast Mr Chippy. With all the wrangling you had to do to get your money back....I'm glad you did, but "clears his good name and restores confidence". ?

Yes, Eric's name should be cleared. One lesson that should be learned here. If it looks and smells like a turd........
Most of us know what real Cameron amps and his mods look like. If something looks a little "off", just ask more specific questions. Like, "Hey do you have any documentation that this amp was built buy Mark Cameron?" Or "Was this amp really built by Mark Cameron?". I am sure Eric would have answered those questions honestly and this mess would have been prevented. I do agree that the ad was misleading, but come on.........the amp looked nothing like something Mark would build especially with a new "CAMERON" logo. Curiosity should have been raised and more specific questions should have been asked IMO. Glad it all worked out though.

Pure horseshit. .

If he knew it wasn't built by Mark, it shouldn't have been advertised that way; if he didn't know, I'm not buying the ad would have been worded to be deliberately misleading.

Are you really suggesting a potential buyer should have to ask if an amp was "really" built by Mark, or if he has any documentation?

Last I checked, Mark didn't offer COA's..

Irrespective of those points, he refused a refund after being told it wasn't genuine.

For me, end of story.

FWIW, there is no "typical looking" Cameron build; I've had a ton of them, and they're all different.

I never felt compelled to have him sign one.

Ridiculous defense of an obviously shady fuck.

Ok....the point is not to defend Eric. I just said he did the right thing eventually. The buyer even said he did the right thing. Granted, it took too much exposure to finally achieve the end result, I get that. The point I am making is this sale looked suspect in so many ways from the very beginning that I believed it warranted some very direct questioning. I know Mark doesn't offer COA's, but there is always a history or story about an amp that gives some sense of authenticity. That being said, the buyer is always at the mercy of the seller telling the truth. But, if you find a seller flat out lied and you have that documented in some fashion, your recourse could be easier.

I have bought and sold many Cameron, Friedman modded amps on the forums. There is always a dialogue of "the history of the amp" or questions beyond just the ad description and these are for amps that look like traditional modded amps. This amp was obviously a kit and odd looking from the onset. Even the original $1500 price tag was a red flag. Again, I am not defending an obviously shady sale. The point is buyer beware. Those Rolex's sold in Times Square aren't real either btw.

Anyway, enough belaboring on my part. We all have assholes right?

 

[JerryP]

So who actually built this thing? FJA or dawn?

I built it.

Here's the story behind that amp. Nick bought the kit to try building an amp himself. He put it together and it didn't work right so he sent it to me. It was a total mess inside and really needed to be gutted and started fresh. Really ugly soldering and poor wiring. Nick owned a Cameron Aldrich modded Marshall which I had worked on and Nick asked me if I could make that thing sound like the Aldrich as he wanted a sleeper amp and something he could use at gigs. He had some issues with the Cameron at the time and wasn't 100% confident in using it live. Those problems he got worked out. That amp is NOT an Aldrich, but it is similar. Nick made some minor changes to the filtering and the depth control after he got it back from me. My understanding is he sold it to PsychoDave, who sold it to someone else. Not sure of the entire trail, but Vince ended up with it. Vince had a problem with it and sent it to me in 2013 for repairs. That's the last time I saw the amp. The amp didn't have the top cage on it when I last saw it and there was no Cameron logo. I didn't put the logo on it, it had my sticker on the back when I sent it to Nick. There's video of the amp on my YouTube site called the Toaster and the Dirty Sanchez mod. I also have some pics of the amp from it's time here.
The amp was built for Nick, not for something to be sold as a Cameron. Nick built 2 more of those kits himself after this amp both of which are now owned by friends of his.
Jerry

 

[Mr. Willy]

So the plot thickens. By what Jerry just said, there's absolutely no excuse for the passing the amp off as a Cameron. This Nick guy is a straight up liar.

 

[TrueTone500]

 

[fritzreiser]

Do you have a link to the ended auction?

Here is the auction link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cameron-Cus...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I don't normally post in these types of threads. But, I came very close to buying this head when I saw it on eBay. I didn't know squat about the history of this amp. I took it for exactly what the auction said it was.

One VERY IMPORTANT thing to note: The seller changed the wording of the auction from his original listing. See photo below of my Droid.

"Up for auction is a Custom ground up build by Mark Cameron. It is a high gain Aldrich and HG Jose Style Head. It is 50 Watts using El34's (Winged C's) and three Ruby HG 12AX7's.

All the best components were used and the amp sounds amazing in a nice small portable package. Great for live and the best bedroom amp I've ever tried for a high gain amp. The component values are blacked out by Mark to protect his designs but no massive gooping like in his Marshall modded amps."

This amp was definitely being sold as a Cameron, and I almost bought it.