Brutal tones/stock superleads?

[Kalluget]

I remember some guy from here posting clips on youtube of stock Marshalls boosted with those VFE pedals and they had the chugz.

 

[screamindemon]

I have a stock '70 Super Trem and a stock '72 Super Lead and Metropoulos 12000 series 68 plexi clone and also a Marshall SV20. They are all mean enough to do heavy rock and classic metal tones with a Boss SD-1 or a Graphic EQ in front of them. Mean, tight and crunchy as hell with enough sustain and this punchy, articulate, in your face sound that IMO starts going away the more gain you add.

Do they do modern metal tones? How would I know? lol I'm not interested in that. I have owned 5 or 6 modded Marshalls over the years and had a Morin preamp and for the sound I am looking for, stock Super Leads with a little boost and low end tightening from those pedals just does it.

I don't set my Marshalls for clean. I set them to where they sound like the meanest classic rock sounds bordering on reaching hard rock sounds. Then I give them a little push with the pedal and it is killer.

Are you using an attenuater ? What are the volume levels? Cab or IR ? My problem with this setup is it’s just too f-ing loud .

 

[Racerxrated]

Are you using an attenuater ? What are the volume levels? Cab or IR ? My problem with this setup is it’s just too f-ing loud .

...And this is where I strongly suggest to grab a Griff made BE OD clone(Tone Ripper or Ban Hammer), like I have. Tons of saturated distortion, and the vol on the pedal becomes your master vol. Works great. Just have to set your plexi/metal panel to a clean-ish tone.

 

[Chubtone]

Are you using an attenuater ? What are the volume levels? Cab or IR ? My problem with this setup is it’s just too f-ing loud

Yes, I use an attenuator when I use a cab and I use a Reactive Load when I record direct with IR's. With a cab, yes it is LOUD.

 

[skoora]

Just banged this out super quick. Just changed strings, so sorry for the delicate ears on the first chord not being in super tune. 1975 Lead and Bass 50 watt head where it doesn't even have a bright cap on vol I. more of a superbass circuit. One pedal with gain set quite low. Slight dip on a MXR 10 band in the Fryette loop

Is it Brutal or just the Walrus?

 

[mentoneman]

Just banged this out super quick. Just changed strings, so sorry for the delicate ears on the first chord not being in super tune. 1975 Lead and Bass 50 watt head where it doesn't even have a bright cap on vol I. more of a superbass circuit. One pedal with gain set quite low. Slight dip on a MXR 10 band in the Fryette loop

Is it Brutal or just the Walrus?

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sounds chunky! congrats on a job well done.

i really appreciate this guy’s heavy tone clips and this crunch he gets with a marshall and one of Wayne’s pedals is face punchinginly delicious!

 

[Exo-metal]

Except that's no superlead...

 

[mentoneman]

Except that's no superlead...

very true.

but man it sounds as good as any modded marshall clip i’ve heard in a while.
inspired me to jam through my Griffin Atomic Punk Overdrive-> Peacemaker earlier.

can’t complain!

 

[Exo-metal]

I know a thousand times but the whole point of this is the age old dilemma. In this modern day my take is that it is possible to add distortion to this amp that is superior to anything in the past.

 

[harddriver]

Just banged this out super quick. Just changed strings, so sorry for the delicate ears on the first chord not being in super tune. 1975 Lead and Bass 50 watt head where it doesn't even have a bright cap on vol I. more of a superbass circuit. One pedal with gain set quite low. Slight dip on a MXR 10 band in the Fryette loop

Is it Brutal or just the Walrus?

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I'd say that qualifies a s brutal........

 

[Bxlxaxkxe]

sounds chunky! congrats on a job well done.

i really appreciate this guy’s heavy tone clips and this crunch he gets with a marshall and one of Wayne’s pedals is face punchinginly delicious!

I tried it with a superlead and it was a cool sound but as always, I much prefer a MV Marshall for the heavy stuff and plexis for classic rock. That has been the case for every Plexi I’ve owned whether vintage or contemporary. I just had to learn to stop trying to make the Plexi something it isn’t. More fun for me that way

 

[mentoneman]

I tried it with a superlead and it was a cool sound but as always, I much prefer a MV Marshall for the heavy stuff and plexis for classic rock. That has been the case for every Plexi I’ve owned whether vintage or contemporary. I just had to learn to stop trying to make the Plexi something it isn’t. More fun for me that way

wisdom.

the highest gain tones i ever used live were when i had my triaxis/395 stereo rack rig for 6-7 years. changed to an egnater tol 100 half stack with a dynacomp and ts-9 up front and dan echo in the loop, in an effort to enjoy the fatter pure amp head tones and simplify.
after several evolutions my final live rig was my attenuated peacemaker (a glorified plexi) which provided the greatest dial simplicity, self monitoring clarity on stage thanks to that fat plexi top end, and great pedal platform for the gain levels i needed while still sounding full.