Classifieds WAAY overpriced...

[Racerxrated]

I know, I know...guys can ask WHATEVER they want, it's their prerogative.

But, cmon, a few of the Marshalls I see are like 30% overpriced..and one really isn't even a Marshall anymore lol.

A single channel 800 is a 1K amp.

A vintage Marshall with both transformers replaced, original board gone is...not a Marshall anymore lol.

I'm sure they all sound killer, GLWTS!

 

[johnpace2]

haha for sure man. I got my killer sounding JCM 800 2204 for $950 from a freaking guitar shop of all places. They aren't going to sell for $1,500.

 

[Racerxrated]

...and then people wonder "why isn't my gear selling? What a crap market!" Lol...No, it's your ridiculous price!
Or, they complain about being 'lowballed'. No, that's reality calling.


Dudes, get real. Unless you really don't want to sell.

 

[johnpace2]

...and then people wonder "why isn't my gear selling? What a crap market!" Lol...No, it's your ridiculous price!
Or, they complain about being 'lowballed'. No, that's reality calling.


Dudes, get real. Unless you really don't want to sell.

My favorite recent ad is for a 2000 Les Paul Standard for $2,400. It's nice and all, but the guy is insane. He dropped the price to $2,000, but still!!!

That's easy R7/R8 money there.

 

[chris lykins]

I think some of the Japanese postings on Reverb and Ebay are making people delusional. Those guitars are so overpriced and they just sit there indefinitely! Makes some people think thats the market price!

 

[Badronald]

There are old Marshalls on our local CL that are butchered and they're asking $3,000+!

I've sent them notes asking what and who on the mods. No response.

No one wants to buy your old butchered amp with garbage mods in it.

 

[Rick Lee]

I think the OP is referring to my '79 JMP ad. I really have no idea what it's worth and am sort of just testing the waters. I know several Marshall experts have told me it sounds every bit as great as an original one, if not better. Then again, I've seen stock Marshall headshells only sell for $600. So I may just part it out. There's another complete chassis on Reverb now for $1000. So I may get more money out of this that way. Also, this headshell is in much better shape than the one on my '79 2203, so maybe I should swap them out, though the 100w is supposed to have that vent up top. While this head is no longer original, it is built right, is rock solid and sounds just like it should. I've seen plenty for the same or more $$ that have been hacked up and/or would require another few hundred to bring into giggable condition. This one is turnkey and ready to go. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

 

[Anonymous]

Never let Reverb influence your pricing decisions for gear you are selling:

Refinished (multiple times) '81 Charvel - $11,000 (Overpriced by $8000+)
Clean, plain jane '85 Charvel Pointy w/Kahler - $2199 (Overpriced by 600+)
Shitty pictures, '85 Rising Sun Charvel Pointy w/Kahler - $2500 (overpriced by $700+)

These guys are dreaming!

Steve

 

[Racerxrated]

I think the OP is referring to my '79 JMP ad. I really have no idea what it's worth and am sort of just testing the waters. I know several Marshall experts have told me it sounds every bit as great as an original one, if not better. Then again, I've seen stock Marshall headshells only sell for $600. So I may just part it out. There's another complete chassis on Reverb now for $1000. So I may get more money out of this that way. Also, this headshell is in much better shape than the one on my '79 2203, so maybe I should swap them out, though the 100w is supposed to have that vent up top. While this head is no longer original, it is built right, is rock solid and sounds just like it should. I've seen plenty for the same or more $$ that have been hacked up and/or would require another few hundred to bring into giggable condition. This one is turnkey and ready to go. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Don't take it personally man..anyone can ask anything for their gear. There are 2-3 more Marshalls in there that are or were 13-1400...not just you. That complete chassis on Reverb is all Marshall though, yours is a clone. Clones are worth 7-800 imo. But I wouldn't pay 1000 for that chassis either. Never seen a headshell alone sell for 600...and if it did, thats stupid and probably rare since you can get one from Mojo for 300 new. For the kind of money you guys are asking I can get one from GC and if I don't like it, just return it and try another. Last year though, as a reference, I found a MINT 79 2204 for 999 on GC.com. An 82 in good condition for 849. And I believe there are 2 2204s now between GC and Music go round for 1100. No mods. Oh, and at least 3 2203s, all vertical inputs, for 899-1199 in the 2 years prior that I've bought from GC. All returnable within 45 days.

You also had your SLO overpriced by 4-500 bucks, they sell for 2500 all day.

 

[Rick Lee]

My SLO is only mentioned in my signature. I haven't written up an ad or put a price on it yet. Kinda waiting for Braciola to sell his first. Maybe you're thinking of someone else.

Plenty of folks prefer the JMP version of the 2204 or 3 over the later versions. Pretty sure you're not gonna find a clean, original JMP 2204 for under $1400. There's one on TGP now for $1400. Mine has NOS RFT power tubes, other new components and will need nothing for a very long time. My JMP 2203 is closer to stock, but was originally a 6550 amp that has been incorrectly converted to EL34s. It still sounds so killer, but dealing with the little stuff that pops up with components of that age is gonna nickel and dime me for as long as it takes me to address each of them. That's just a fact of life with a 38 yr. old amp that's been rode hard and put away wet. I've seen some amps of the same vintage that are almost too clean to be as original as described.

FWIW, I bought a Sourmash headshell this week for my '68 12000 Plexi build. I expect it to look new and perfect when it arrives. But it will never be an original Marshall headshell. Some folks want the patina for the extra mojo.

 

[Racerxrated]

Never let Reverb influence your pricing decisions for gear you are selling:

Refinished (multiple times) '81 Charvel - $11,000 (Overpriced by $8000+)
Clean, plain jane '85 Charvel Pointy w/Kahler - $2199 (Overpriced by 600+)
Shitty pictures, '85 Rising Sun Charvel Pointy w/Kahler - $2500 (overpriced by $700+)

These guys are dreaming!

Steve

I've been looking for a nice vintage Charvel or Jackson for a year now..decided on an 88 Jackson strat with mint original seafoam/teal finish, maple HSS for 999 with case. Had a JT6 but I swapped in a Schaller that I had out of a Washburn USA. Killer axe.

Those Charvels have been sitting FOREVER. I guess they are waiting for that one impulsive dumbass buyer lol...

 

[Racerxrated]

My SLO is only mentioned in my signature. I haven't written up an ad or put a price on it yet. Kinda waiting for Braciola to sell his first. Maybe you're thinking of someone else.

Plenty of folks prefer the JMP version of the 2204 or 3 over the later versions. Pretty sure you're not gonna find a clean, original JMP 2204 for under $1400. There's one on TGP now for $1400. Mine has NOS RFT power tubes, other new components and will need nothing for a very long time. My JMP 2203 is closer to stock, but was originally a 6550 amp that has been incorrectly converted to EL34s. It still sounds so killer, but dealing with the little stuff that pops up with components of that age is gonna nickel and dime me for as long as it takes me to address each of them. That's just a fact of life with a 38 yr. old amp that's been rode hard and put away wet. I've seen some amps of the same vintage that are almost too clean to be as original as described.

FWIW, I bought a Sourmash headshell this week for my '68 12000 Plexi build. I expect it to look new and perfect when it arrives. But it will never be an original Marshall headshell. Some folks want the patina for the extra mojo.

Didn't you have your SLO up for sale here for 2900? Like a month ago? Pretty sure you did. If not, my apologies.
But, as I said, I have found CLEAN JMP 2203/4s for less than what you want for what is basically a Ceriatone clone of one. That's where I believe you have it priced/advertised wrong. It isn't a Marshall anymore. It's a clone of one. And clones are worth under 1K. IMO.
One question..you said your 2203 was incorrectly converted to EL34s? Was it done wrong? Or do you say that because it originally came with 6550s? Because in my experience most guys want EL34s in their Marshall. Only reason they came with 6550s is because the EL34s weren't surviving in shipping to the US. Marshall switched because the warranty work to their dealers was piling up...the transformers didn't change though and EL34s are still what they were designed for. I have played a few with 6550s but most have been converted to EL34s.

 

[SpiderWars]

Yep, within the last year I bought a clean, stock '76 Superlead with old style cosmetics. $1099 from GC.com plus tax and like $25 shipping. And as mentioned I could have returned it, which to me has value.


EDIT: regarding clones, 46and2's impeccable SLO clone could be an example. Sold for less than half of a real SLO or close to it IIRC.

 

[SavageRiffer]

I have to agree. Some dudes on TGP are even worse. Some are trying to get damned near retail or premium pricing for gear that's 5 or 10 years old. There's nothing wrong with leaving some room to negotiate, but pricing should accurately reflect current market value and discount things like age, modifications, etc.

 

[Racerxrated]

Yep, within the last year I bought a clean, stock '76 Superlead with old style cosmetics. $1099 from GC.com plus tax and like $25 shipping. And as mentioned I could have returned it, which to me has value.


EDIT: regarding clones, 46and2's impeccable SLO clone could be an example. Sold for less than half of a real SLO or close to it IIRC.

Clones can be fantastic amps, no doubt. But most guys, for near the same price, will take an original all day.

 

[Rick Lee]

Didn't you have your SLO up for sale here for 2900? Like a month ago? Pretty sure you did. If not, my apologies.
But, as I said, I have found CLEAN JMP 2203/4s for less than what you want for what is basically a Ceriatone clone of one. That's where I believe you have it priced/advertised wrong. It isn't a Marshall anymore. It's a clone of one. And clones are worth under 1K. IMO.
One question..you said your 2203 was incorrectly converted to EL34s? Was it done wrong? Or do you say that because it originally came with 6550s? Because in my experience most guys want EL34s in their Marshall. Only reason they came with 6550s is because the EL34s weren't surviving in shipping to the US. Marshall switched because the warranty work to their dealers was piling up...the transformers didn't change though and EL34s are still what they were designed for. I have played a few with 6550s but most have been converted to EL34s.

No, not my SLO. My SLO (a real one) has snakeskin tolex, depth mod, chicken head knobs (stock ones included) and I just put in new Sovtek Wafer Bottom power tubes. Have never listed it for sale beyond what's in my signature here. I did PM a few folks I knew to be into SLOs or who asked me to give them a heads up if I ever decided to sell.

As for the 2203, I think a PO just slapped in EL34s with no changes in bias caps or a few other resistors. And a PO also changed one screen resistor, suggesting a blown tube once took that one out. Waiting on the parts to arrive to correct all that. Gonna have my pro tech do it, as I don't want to deal with lifting the board.

I've seen some great deals at GC too. They pop up all the time. My best snag there was an early 80s beak stock maple neck Kramer with EMGs and OFR for $220. Yesterday I saw my old Mesa 4x12 in the local GC for $500. I bought it on eBay for $250 (local pickup), gigged with it for two years and then sold it on CL for $400. And then there are the ones on eBay where the sellers don't know what they have and list them incorrectly. I've snagged a few of those for a song too. I'm in no hurry to sell, will take offers and, again, am testing the waters. If it sits for a while, I will adjust price, or maybe by then I'll have another use for it or be looking for trades. I know no one here would be personally insulted by a top dollar price, right?

 

[Rick Lee]

Clones can be fantastic amps, no doubt. But most guys, for near the same price, will take an original all day.

I would not even think of paying what a real '68 12000 Plexi costs. I wouldn't want to worry about it. The one I built absolutely slays and I have about $900 total into it. It's my main gigging amp now.

 

[keennay]

I know, I know...guys can ask WHATEVER they want, it's their prerogative.

But, cmon, a few of the Marshalls I see are like 30% overpriced..and one really isn't even a Marshall anymore lol.

A single channel 800 is a 1K amp.

A vintage Marshall with both transformers replaced, original board gone is...not a Marshall anymore lol.

I'm sure they all sound killer, GLWTS!

Well, that's why you haggle / negotiate!

I already know from experience here if I listed my gear at a fair price, I'd still be lowballed.

 

[napalmdeath]

Here's a good one...
https://reverb.com/item/5700290-digitec ... ing-system

 

[Racerxrated]

Didn't you have your SLO up for sale here for 2900? Like a month ago? Pretty sure you did. If not, my apologies.
But, as I said, I have found CLEAN JMP 2203/4s for less than what you want for what is basically a Ceriatone clone of one. That's where I believe you have it priced/advertised wrong. It isn't a Marshall anymore. It's a clone of one. And clones are worth under 1K. IMO.
One question..you said your 2203 was incorrectly converted to EL34s? Was it done wrong? Or do you say that because it originally came with 6550s? Because in my experience most guys want EL34s in their Marshall. Only reason they came with 6550s is because the EL34s weren't surviving in shipping to the US. Marshall switched because the warranty work to their dealers was piling up...the transformers didn't change though and EL34s are still what they were designed for. I have played a few with 6550s but most have been converted to EL34s.

No, not my SLO. My SLO (a real one) has snakeskin tolex, depth mod, chicken head knobs (stock ones included) and I just put in new Sovtek Wafer Bottom power tubes. Have never listed it for sale beyond what's in my signature here. I did PM a few folks I knew to be into SLOs or who asked me to give them a heads up if I ever decided to sell.

As for the 2203, I think a PO just slapped in EL34s with no changes in bias caps or a few other resistors. And a PO also changed one screen resistor, suggesting a blown tube once took that one out. Waiting on the parts to arrive to correct all that. Gonna have my pro tech do it, as I don't want to deal with lifting the board.

I've seen some great deals at GC too. They pop up all the time. My best snag there was an early 80s beak stock maple neck Kramer with EMGs and OFR for $220. Yesterday I saw my old Mesa 4x12 in the local GC for $500. I bought it on eBay for $250 (local pickup), gigged with it for two years and then sold it on CL for $400. And then there are the ones on eBay where the sellers don't know what they have and list them incorrectly. I've snagged a few of those for a song too. I'm in no hurry to sell, will take offers and, again, am testing the waters. If it sits for a while, I will adjust price, or maybe by then I'll have another use for it or be looking for trades. I know no one here would be personally insulted by a top dollar price, right?

No not at all, people can list their stuff for whatever they want. And it wasn't just your amp, like I said there are a few others that have Reverb-like prices on their gear.
I have had more than 15 really good finds at GC. My favorite cab is a 74 marshall with creambacks, great condition all original matching codes, 399. Today I will be getting a Charvel model 2 for 399. Except it's really a 2005-7 pointy reissue USA custom shop 1 hum black with ebony board.
God I love GC.