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TheGreatGreen said:
Of course “social programs” and “a founded-from-the-ground-up Socialist” government are different. One is a government, the other is a program. But socialist programs are rooted in the same pillars of Socialist philosophy. They share the same principles, ideals and intent.
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Social programs……. Jeez……


Apparently someone graduated and got their education from Moscow/Beijing University here or some University in NYC :dunno:
 
The~Kid said:
Social programs……. Jeez……


Apparently someone graduated and got their education from Moscow/Beijing University here or some University in NYC :dunno:
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Don’t you find it just the slightest bit weird that “socialist program” and “social program” are so etymologically similar? You think there might be a reason for that, just maybe? Like, maybe that they originate from the same principals?

Also, I love how your view of government systems seems to be totally black and white, like USA = Capitalism = GREAT, and Russia/North Korea = Communist (which you think is the same as Socialism) = BAD and there’s absolutely zero in between. As if the rest of the planet (including, say, Scandinavia) doesn’t exist.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Of course “social programs” and “a founded-from-the-ground-up Socialist” government are different. One is a government, the other is a program. But socialist programs are rooted in the same pillars of philosophy as Socialist governments. They share the same principles, ideals and intent.
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Not really.
Social programs are rooted in initiatives to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in community/government control of production.

Not the same at all.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Of course “social programs” and “a founded-from-the-ground-up Socialist” government are different. One is a government, the other is a program. But socialist programs are rooted in the same pillars of philosophy as Socialist governments. They share the same principles, ideals and intent.
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They aren’t.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Don’t you find it just the slightest bit weird that “socialist program” and “social program” are so etymologically similar? You think there might be a reason for that, just maybe? Like, maybe that they originate from the same principals?
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But they arent……



Ones Socialism…… Communist Garbage…..


The other is a social program funded by revenue collected by a Capitalist/Democratic system and Federal Government.
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Not really.
Social programs are rooted in initiatives to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in community/government control of production.

Not the same at all.
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Oh man you’re so close to seeing it.

At this point I think you’re being willfully ignorant just so you don’t have to admit to yourself that anything even remotely tied to the big bad boogeyman known as “Socialism” could possibly be a good thing, otherwise you’d have some serious thinking to do.

Social programs are programs meant to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in THE PEOPLE’S control of production.

Do you think there could be a relationship between “THE PEOPLE having control over resources” and “programs that direct resources towards the benefit of THE PEOPLE” ?
 
The~Kid said:
But they arent……



Ones Socialism…… Communist Garbage…..


The other is a social program funded by revenue collected by a Capitalist/Democratic system and Federal Government.
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Communism and Socialism are as different from each other as Socialism and Capitalism.

I understand that Fox “News” works very hard to make people think that anything other than American Capitlism is evil and miserable though.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Oh man you’re so close to seeing it.

At this point I think you’re being willfully ignorant just so you don’t have to admit to yourself that anything even remotely tied to the big bad boogeyman known as “Socialism” could possibly be a good thing, otherwise you’d have some serious thinking to do.

Social programs are programs meant to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in THE PEOPLE’S control of production.

Do you think there could be a relationship between “THE PEOPLE having control over resources” and “programs that direct resources towards the benefit of THE PEOPLE” ?
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Name a single socialist government in history where “ The people” had control of anything.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Oh man you’re so close to seeing it.

At this point I think you’re being willfully ignorant just so you don’t have to admit to yourself that anything even remotely tied to the big bad boogeyman known as “Socialism” could possibly be a good thing, otherwise you’d have some serious thinking to do.

Social programs are programs meant to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in THE PEOPLE’S control of production.

Do you think there could be a relationship between “THE PEOPLE having control over resources” and “programs that direct resources towards the benefit of THE PEOPLE” ?
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USAnian propaganda is so strong against Socialism, you may as well try to convince them that Satan is a really good guy.
 
JDs Couch said:
USAnian propaganda is so strong against Socialism, you may as well try to convince them that Satan is a really good guy.
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I don’t think anyone needs lessons about what socialism is from a dumbass that thinks the US has pure capitalism.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Oh man you’re so close to seeing it.

At this point I think you’re being willfully ignorant just so you don’t have to admit to yourself that anything even remotely tied to the big bad boogeyman known as “Socialism” could possibly be a good thing, otherwise you’d have some serious thinking to do.

Social programs are programs meant to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in THE PEOPLE’S control of production.

Do you think there could be a relationship between “THE PEOPLE having control over resources” and “programs that direct resources towards the benefit of THE PEOPLE” ?
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Right on man……


Maybe this makes sense to those in Moscow/Beijing or NYC or who went to Universities there and received an “education” there….….. but most Americans and most here prefer Capitalism/Democracy……



Otherwise youd have all these people learning Chinese and Russian wanting to move there vs coming to America and be here in the States…… but what do I know :dunno:
 
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Robostyle said:
Pretty sure each town is different, each town pays for and maintains its own roads. Same for fire/police/rescue.
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Where I live and the surrounding areas, the highway departments are slowly shutting down.
That’s as well as the local small town police departments.

Its becoming the problem of the county and then the state.
 
JDs Couch said:
I prefer when Hells Angels flap their wings, and Heaven's golden chorus sings...
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I’ve been an avid motorcyclist most of my life, many miles in the saddle and very serious, so admit, not sure how to interpret…
 
dcburn mk.ii said:
I’ve been an avid motorcyclist most of my life, many miles in the saddle and very serious, so admit, not sure how to interpret…
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And so in the sky shines the electric eye
supernatural king takes earth under his wing
Heaven's golden chorus sings, Hell's angels flap their wings
Evil souls fall to Hell, ever trapped in burning cells!
- Electric Funeral. BLACK SABBATH
 
JDs Couch said:
And so in the sky shines the electric eye
supernatural king takes earth under his wing
Heaven's golden chorus sings, Hell's angels flap their wings
Evil souls fall to Hell, ever trapped in burning cells!
- Electric Funeral. BLACK SABBATH
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You had me at Judas Priest Electric Eye!
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Oh man you’re so close to seeing it.

At this point I think you’re being willfully ignorant just so you don’t have to admit to yourself that anything even remotely tied to the big bad boogeyman known as “Socialism” could possibly be a good thing, otherwise you’d have some serious thinking to do.

Social programs are programs meant to improve the well being of citizens.
Socialist programs are rooted in THE PEOPLE’S control of production.

Do you think there could be a relationship between “THE PEOPLE having control over resources” and “programs that direct resources towards the benefit of THE PEOPLE” ?
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I see a distinct difference between programs meant to help people vs control over production.
Also people as a collective deciding (voting) what to do with production or resources sound more like a democracy than socialism. In socialism it's a select few who decide what's "best" for the people, not the people deciding for themselves.

Social programs can be voted on by the people; or their elected representatives.
Socialists programs are decided on by the few who were appointed and not elected by the people who represent them.

I do understand what you are getting at, but at this point we can agree to disagree.

I do want to point out this is why people here just make fun of you "lefties." I actually tried to have a reasonable conversation with you about this, but you just had to go and start throwing insults at me. See the bolded part of your quote. The worst I said to you was AI knew the difference between social programs & socialism; which I would hardly call an insult. Even thought I disagree with you I've been civil with you so far. You decided to start in a different direction towards me. Why would anyone bother trying to have a rational discussion with someone who's going to to be uncivil?
 
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