napalmdeath
Well-known member
Not hard to do on the net.
Smash
Hack
We are about a month in here. I know we have members here that know him. The silence speaks volumes. It is very unfortunate.
I recommend we all stop with the F and F shit. There are a few of us left that are bulletproof, but it is getting harder and harder to trust even longtime trustworthy guys for some reason
I recommend we all stop with the F and F shit. There are a few of us left that are bulletproof, but it is getting harder and harder to trust even longtime trustworthy guys for some reason
skoora
Well-known member
For a sale of certain amounts I never understood not using Goods and Services. Sellers should just calculate the 3-4% into the sale price and everybody gets protection. There will always be a couple of folks you’ll feel comfortable doing F&F with but everyone can be cool when life is not applying pressure.
Metlupass2
Well-known member
Tax purposes. In IL I get a 1099K if I sell anything over $1,000. I don't want to deal with that anymore.i stopped accepting regular PayPal a few years ago and I've still sold a lot.
DanTravis62
Moderator
Yeah there's a bunch of people here I wouldn't hesitate to use f&f with, but I've done many deals with them before
If it's not a well known homie it would be wise to be on the safe side
nightlight
Well-known member
This hasn't been sorted out yet? Wow.
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Jack Luminous
Well-known member
It happened to me once years ago to get burned out of $300 because I did F&F (never again). I tried to chargeback with the credit card but after that Paypal immediateley contacted me and threatened to ban me for life if I tried to chargeback a F&F payment. I choose to keep Paypal because of convenience and cut my losses. At the time, there were much less means of online payment. Maybe I'll do differently today.
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alund
Well-known member
I ususally do FF but this event might be the straw that kicks me over.
Meeotch
Well-known member
I agree. There are occasions where I'd do FF (smaller sales) and a handful of folks I'd do FF with (buds I talk and text with, have visited, etc) but in general it's not that much of a loss to either factor in the G&S fee to your pricing, or offer to split it with the buyer. Or just say it's extra...at least the buyer has the option.
What a lot of folks still don't realize is that 95% of the time, you are selling gear at a loss or breaking even. In these circumstances, you don't owe any tax on the sale. Only if you make a profit. Yes some states have tighter thresholds for the 1099-K but this concept still applies.
Do whatever you want, but personally I tend to dismiss ads that are strict FF.
japetus
Well-known member
It's almost like FRIENDS AND FAMILY was only set up for a certain group of people that you trusted. I can't imagine who those people might be...
Floyd Eye
Well-known member
Definitely not my family. I don't trust those bastards any farther than I can throw them.
espquade
Well-known member
Agreed I have done several deals on the forum with other long time members with F&F and never any issues .
Unless something terrible happened to him like a hospital stay due to medical issues or some other life threating issue that would keep him from responding like I don't know jail or he passed away ??? There is no excuse for this then.
FourT6and2
Well-known member
He hasn't logged in since October 9. But that doesn't mean he hasn't viewed the thread without signing in. I wonder if a mod can see if his IP address visited the site though?
espquade
Well-known member
I would look into that ASAP...
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