Diezel Lil Fokker Amp Questions

[Mailman1971]

Thanks Mailman! Maybe I should look into a KSR Ares.

Hear great things about them Amps
Never played or heard one though.

 

[MetalHeadMike]

Thanks Mailman! Maybe I should look into a KSR Ares.

I just flipped my ARES to standby to warm up

Tell ya what man, I've had the ARES for 6 months, and I'm still blown away everytime I plug in. AMAZING amp AMAZING

 

[MetalThrasher]

How do think the ARES will sound though an Orange PPC412 with V30's?

 

[MetalHeadMike]

How do think the ARES will sound though an Orange PPC412 with V30's?

I've never played through one. I primarily play mine through an EVH 412 with EVH Greenbacks (25w Heritage Greenbacks), and I've played it a bunch through my Whitebox 2x12 loaded with G12K-100s and the amp kicks all kind of ass through both cabs.

Its one of the most aggressive most pissed off sounding amps I've ever played/owned.

 

[JerEvil]

Never owned a Diezel but have played plenty of Kemper profiles to know I’m interested. Perhaps 2018 will bring a VH2...

 

[Vin Diezel]

I've played and recorded with Fokker more than a year and it does not sound piercing or flubby. There is no need to set resonance to 0.
I would not call it a thrash metal amp. It has a soft mid voicing and sounds darker than other amps.
My 6505 is a lot more piercing and flubby.
6505 or Marshall JCM 800 sounds thrashier to me.

I'm not saying that your perception is wrong, and yeah I remember having to eat a couple of words in that discussion, just that I probably dial it in a lot different than most Diezel users. Depending on how loud it is and how much gain, bass at 12:00 is too much. Mine was never piercing, but it did seem a little dark in comparison to my Diezel Paul, so I'd turn up the treble and lower the presence a bit. Even though it's slightly on the darker side, it always sat just right in a mix. If I were to make it sound piercing, I'd have to scoop the mids, and turn up the treble and presence a lot. That's why I say something must be up with that one because that was not the perception I would have gotten. The flubby thing, we'll I've learned that it's rather subjective. On some amps my palm muting sounds great, but through other amps it sounds flubby. When I got into Diezel, I had to change my palm muting technique a bit to get the right sound. Now I don't even think about it anymore. Maybe it could be that the low end is just very unforgiving. Either way, I didn't mean to make it sound like you don't know what you're talking about. It was just a different experience for me.

I've played and recorded with Fokker more than a year and it does NOT sound piercing or flubby. There is NO need to set resonance to 0.
I would not call it a thrash metal amp. It has a soft mid voicing and sounds darker than other amps.

Are you sure you have read and processed correctly what I originally wrote?

 

[SavageRiffer]

I've played and recorded with Fokker more than a year and it does not sound piercing or flubby. There is no need to set resonance to 0.
I would not call it a thrash metal amp. It has a soft mid voicing and sounds darker than other amps.
My 6505 is a lot more piercing and flubby.
6505 or Marshall JCM 800 sounds thrashier to me.

I'm not saying that your perception is wrong, and yeah I remember having to eat a couple of words in that discussion, just that I probably dial it in a lot different than most Diezel users. Depending on how loud it is and how much gain, bass at 12:00 is too much. Mine was never piercing, but it did seem a little dark in comparison to my Diezel Paul, so I'd turn up the treble and lower the presence a bit. Even though it's slightly on the darker side, it always sat just right in a mix. If I were to make it sound piercing, I'd have to scoop the mids, and turn up the treble and presence a lot. That's why I say something must be up with that one because that was not the perception I would have gotten. The flubby thing, we'll I've learned that it's rather subjective. On some amps my palm muting sounds great, but through other amps it sounds flubby. When I got into Diezel, I had to change my palm muting technique a bit to get the right sound. Now I don't even think about it anymore. Maybe it could be that the low end is just very unforgiving. Either way, I didn't mean to make it sound like you don't know what you're talking about. It was just a different experience for me.

I've played and recorded with Fokker more than a year and it does NOT sound piercing or flubby. There is NO need to set resonance to 0.
I would not call it a thrash metal amp. It has a soft mid voicing and sounds darker than other amps.

Are you sure you have read and processed correctly what I originally wrote?

Oh shit. LOL! I got a prescription for glasses a couple of months ago because of this kind of shit.

 

[Vin Diezel]

 

[moltenmetalburn]

fokker was angry sounding, a tighter pissed off diezel tone. similar to a vh4 or hagen tone, not the herbert dmoll side. had its own voice like all of them. A/B hagen crushed and einstein did the vintage thing better, so i sent it packing.

channel one with a boost can do leads, for thrash id still choose channel two. can do HEAVY music though below dropped C I would prob pick a different diezel.

the most rudimentary diezel loop. not my fave diezel loop but still kills a bogner loop dead.

literally the only reason to avoid this amp is the color lmao.


I hear fokkers voice loud and clear in this video. he has it boosted on the second channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0bs6RlrhfE

 

[MetalHeadMike]

^^^
Saw that vid when it was first posted, and its what got me interested in the Fokker. I honestly forgot about this amp for a while, but this thread has revised the Fokker gas. I'm gonna put it in the running for the next amp: Chupacabra>Uber blue or TJ>Fyette Sig x>Lil Fokker.

 

[Vin Diezel]

fokker was angry sounding, a tighter pissed off diezel tone. similar to a vh4 or hagen tone, not the herbert dmoll side. had its own voice like all of them. A/B hagen crushed and einstein did the vintage thing better, so i sent it packing.

Didn't get that. Which did you like better? Hagen or Fokker?

 

[moltenmetalburn]

fokker was angry sounding, a tighter pissed off diezel tone. similar to a vh4 or hagen tone, not the herbert dmoll side. had its own voice like all of them. A/B hagen crushed and einstein did the vintage thing better, so i sent it packing.

Didn't get that. Which did you like better? Hagen or Fokker?

hagen, sold fokker.