Dr. Drew on the new study shows 50% of young men who got myocarditis after the vaccine now have permanent heart damage

[Racerxrated]

VAERS is a government run vaccine adverse reaction tracking program, it is not private. The site that reprints the data is www.opensvaers.com from the CDC VAERS site. Yes it can be a self reporting situation, and a Harvard study also states that the underreporting of VAERS is 90+ percent. So you are suggesting that all the data on the VAERS site is invalid and does not show a single safety signal reagarding these injections?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_Adverse_Event_Reporting_System

VAERS is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS accepts and analyzes reports of adverse events (possible side effects) after a person has received a vaccination. Anyone can report an adverse event to VAERS.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html

What I am saying is it is not a legitimate site, for the simple fact that ANYONE can post there. So, we don't know WHAT is real and WHAT is not. I'll give you an example from my place of employment:
We have more than a few anti vaxxers at work. One is a provider. Super nice lady; but she ran and posted an 'event' of shingles on this very site. The example was related to another employee, who is over 50, was super stressed out going through a divorce and yes had the vaccine. So being the anti vaxxer she is, she posted this 'event'. Except, the person who had shingles is: Over 50, super stressed out, and had Chicken Pox before. Those are the common triggers for Shingles to occur. Yet the provider still posted that on the VAERS site.
Was it the vaccine? Maybe. Was it not the vaccine and just other normal triggers to cause her Shingles? Maybe. Bottom line? We don't know for sure. That's my point. There's no ACTUAL PROOF that ANYTHING on VAERS is really due to the vaccine.

That's why it's very questionable to use VAERS as legitimate proof of anything.

 

[Racerxrated]

Sorry to hear man. Had you already been vaccinated or not though?

Thanks.

I had Covid in Nov of 2020. Lasted 3 days. In December-mid January 2021 I had the strange heart stuff. Went away by Feb. Got the Vaccine in March, and May of 2021. So no, it was Covid that caused the heart stuff. Haven't had any recurrences, thankfully.

 

[Racerxrated]

I don't take any offense whatsover. The emerging data says what it says. The doctor who invented MRNA technology Dr. Robert Malone almost had a stroke after his injections of Moderna and has come out completely against these shots after reviewing the emerging data as well as thousands more.

There was a study done in Israel and posted here and they did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection so there could be another cause of this rise in myocarditis and pericarditis lsited by the FDA as a known side effect but that is if you are willing to acknowledge the study and that information from the FDA.

The Incidence of Myocarditis and Pericarditis in Post COVID-19 Unvaccinated Patients-A Large Population-Based Study​

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35456309/

J Clin Med

. 2022 Apr 15;11(82219.
doi: 10.3390/jcm11082219

​

Myocarditis and pericarditis are potential post-acute cardiac sequelae of COVID-19 infection, arising from adaptive immune responses. We aimed to study the incidence of post-acute COVID-19 myocarditis and pericarditis. Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021. Inpatient myocarditis and pericarditis diagnoses were retrieved from day 10 after positive PCR. Follow-up was censored on 28 February 2021, with minimum observation of 18 days. The control cohort of 590,976 adults with at least one negative PCR and no positive PCR were age- and sex-matched. Since the Israeli vaccination program was initiated on 20 December 2020, the time-period matching of the control cohort was calculated backward from 15 December 2020. Nine post-COVID-19 patients developed myocarditis (0.0046%), and eleven patients were diagnosed with pericarditis (0.0056%). In the control cohort, 27 patients had myocarditis (0.0046%) and 52 had pericarditis (0.0088%). Age (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR] 0.96, 95% confidence interval [CI]; 0.93 to 1.00) and male sex (aHR 4.42; 95% CI, 1.64 to 11.96) were associated with myocarditis. Male sex (aHR 1.93; 95% CI 1.09 to 3.41) and peripheral vascular disease (aHR 4.20; 95% CI 1.50 to 11.72) were associated with pericarditis. Post COVID-19 infection was not associated with either myocarditis (aHR 1.08; 95% CI 0.45 to 2.56) or pericarditis (aHR 0.53; 95% CI 0.25 to 1.13). We did not observe an increased incidence of neither pericarditis nor myocarditis in adult patients recovering from COVID-19 infection.

So, this study doesn't at all talk about post Covid 19 Vaccination examples of Carditis; just post Covid infection examples of Carditis. Again, whoever posts this on whatever site you frequent, needs to actually read through it to make sure it supports the assertion that the vaccine is causing Carditis.
We know Covid can cause it; I had it for a month.

 

[CrazyNutz]

Thanks.

I had Covid in Nov of 2020. Lasted 3 days. In December-mid January 2021 I had the strange heart stuff. Went away by Feb. Got the Vaccine in March, and May of 2021. So no, it was Covid that caused the heart stuff. Haven't had any recurrences, thankfully.

What's your strange heart stuff?

I have Paroxysmal Afib episodes (going back well before covid), but neither covid, nor the vax made it any worse.

I think what causes the very small percentage of people (0.001 from studies I've seen) to experience cardiac episodes from the vax, and even covid is the inflammation from immune response.

Back when I used to drink, it made my Afib more frequent from the inflammation.

 

[Racerxrated]

What's your strange heart stuff?

I have Paroxysmal Afib episodes (going back well before covid), but neither covid, nor the vax made it any worse.

I think what causes the very small percentage of people (0.001 from studies I've seen) to experience cardiac episodes from the vax, and even covid is the inflammation from immune response.

Back when I used to drink, it made my Afib more frequent from the inflammation.

So, I had Covid in late October/Early November 2020. It lasted 3 days, flu like stuff. Then a week of feeling like I had mono again. Just tired all day. Finally went away, and I started my new job. But, a week into it I got to work and had my co worker do my vitals. BP 180/120, P 190, I also had extremital edema, non pitting. I've always had BP of 115/75, for years..P 70. No edema. So I went to my doc, and had a Cardiac Ultrasound, and wore a Zio monitor for 2 weeks. I had a mild case of Carditis, which the ultrasound couldn't measure as Myo, Endo or Peri. I was put on a Beta Blocker for a month. The Zio monitor reading was random Arrythmia, Tachy...but not consistent. This lasted into January but went away before the month ended. Hasn't returned thankfully. Got the Cover vaxx in March/May of 21, no heart issues followed.

 

[psychodave]

I'll help you.

Translation=Getting the Covid vaccine if you are between 12-39 years old, there will be a 1/100th of 1 percent chance that you develop Myocarditis.
See? That's critical thinking.
You're welcome.

What are the percentages of surviving covid in that age group. What benefit does the covid vaccine provide in a percentage for that group? For example, if you have a 99% chance of survival without the vax, then get vaccinated, is the added benefit go from 99% to 99.4%?

 

[Racerxrated]

What are the percentages of surviving covid in that age group. What benefit does the covid vaccine provide in a percentage for that group? For example, if you have a 99% chance of survival without the vax, then get vaccinated, is the added benefit go from 99% to 99.4%?

That's a good question; and the fact that Myocarditis is even a possible side effect, no matter how low the chance is, would make me second guess the need for it if I were in that age group.
But it's still very rare to get it...one in one hundredth of 1 percent.

And I agree with Megyn on any school mandating it now...or really anyone mandating it. I've never agreed with that..it's a medical procedure and should ALWAYS be optional.

 

[Ben Waylin]

Asymptomatic people still have covid

Amazing how you can find the time to spend 20 hours a day on here defending drag queens and the Covid vaxx against mean tweets.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

That's a good question; and the fact that Myocarditis is even a possible side effect, no matter how low the chance is, would make me second guess the need for it if I were in that age group.
But it's still very rare to get it...one in one hundredth of 1 percent.

And I agree with Megyn on any school mandating it now...or really anyone mandating it. I've never agreed with that..it's a medical procedure and should ALWAYS be optional.

I often wonder how strict those mandates were at different places. I’ve had a couple employers since Covid. All mandated vaccines, but I had coworkers at each job who easily got around the mandate with a simple doctor’s note.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Amazing how you can find the time to spend 20 hours a day on here defending drag queens and the Covid vaxx against mean tweets.

I am pretty amazing, yes.

 

[Ben Waylin]

I am pretty amazing, yes.

I guess when they were handing out Uno cards, you drew "Drag Queens" & "Covid Vaxx".

 

[CrazyNutz]

So, I had Covid in late October/Early November 2020. It lasted 3 days, flu like stuff. Then a week of feeling like I had mono again. Just tired all day. Finally went away, and I started my new job. But, a week into it I got to work and had my co worker do my vitals. BP 180/120, P 190, I also had extremital edema, non pitting. I've always had BP of 115/75, for years..P 70. No edema. So I went to my doc, and had a Cardiac Ultrasound, and wore a Zio monitor for 2 weeks. I had a mild case of Carditis, which the ultrasound couldn't measure as Myo, Endo or Peri. I was put on a Beta Blocker for a month. The Zio monitor reading was random Arrythmia, Tachy...but not consistent. This lasted into January but went away before the month ended. Hasn't returned thankfully. Got the Cover vaxx in March/May of 21, no heart issues followed.

Glad you're good. The edema would be cause for concern for sure.

I've had episodes of Tachy with my Afib. The Tachy will start up after every out of place beat.

 

[Racerxrated]

I often wonder how strict those mandates were at different places. I’ve had a couple employers since Covid. All mandated vaccines, but I had coworkers at each job who easily got around the mandate with a simple doctor’s note.

It was kind of a moving target; at first there was a religious exemption. Then they took that away. It was a very stressful time for half the employees, who didn't want the vaccine.
I didn't agree with forcing it, though.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I guess when they were handing out Uno cards, you drew "Drag Queens" & "Covid Vaxx".

I dunno if you get like this when you are on your meds or off them, but it’s not a good look bro.

I’m not “defending” anyone or anything. I just take issue with halfwits that read for confirmation and not information. If someone has an opinion on something, share it. It doesn’t make it factual though.

 

[Ben Waylin]

but it’s not a good look bro.

 

[Bad Brain]

What I am saying is it is not a legitimate site, for the simple fact that ANYONE can post there. So, we don't know WHAT is real and WHAT is not.

It is definitely legitimate. It is not meant that every report is assumed to be causal, but that if you get enough report anomalies it serves as a “safety signal.” I don’t know about you, but I can see a signal here:

Another point is that just because reports haven’t been verified does not mean that they AREN’T causal.

 

[Ben Waylin]

It is definitely legitimate. It is not meant that every report is assumed to be causal, but that if you get enough report anomalies it serves as a “safety signal.” I don’t know about you, but I can see a signal here:
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Another point is that just because reports haven’t been verified does not mean that they aren’t casual.

You have to show these numbskulls a graph they can understand..

 

[Racerxrated]

It is definitely legitimate. It is not meant that every report is assumed to be causal, but that if you get enough report anomalies it serves as a “safety signal.” I don’t know about you, but I can see a signal here:
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Another point is that just because reports haven’t been verified does not mean that they AREN’T causal.

So, this proves what? That there were a lot of deaths during Covid? Wow news flash. Oh, and the teal number? All non Covid vaccine deaths? Gimme a break. This is a fake news graph, from a BS source. Completely made up. It doesn't even make sense.
When anyone at all, i.e. right wing extremist individuals can simply report anything they want like maybe a total lie/BS to inflate numbers, well by definition VAERS is not a reliable source of info. Especially since the far right is on a mission to fight on in the 'vaccine wars' for whatever reason.

 

[Ben Waylin]

See what I mean ?

 

[Krull]

Damn all those extreme right wing doctors and scientists!