squank
Active member
Now I'm jonesing to play it! Won't get back home until late tonight. 
Neighbors, beware!
EDIT: Review is below...
Neighbors, beware!
EDIT: Review is below...
proxmax
New member
a white hagan is so cool looking.........
angelspade
Well-known member
squank":1xziclnv said:Now I'm jonesing to play it! Won't get back home until late tonight.
Neighbors, beware!
Obviously...We will be waiting for your DETAILED review and VIDEO
Enjoy it man!!!
squank
Active member
I just got home from rehearsal (almost 3 AM), so no joy tonight with the new amp. Have to be tomorrow.
Once I put her through her paces, I'll give a detailed review.
Sig spelling now corrected...
Once I put her through her paces, I'll give a detailed review.
Sig spelling now corrected...
angelspade
Well-known member
squank":37bcmsbi said:I just got home from rehearsal (almost 3 AM), so no joy tonight with the new amp. Have to be tomorrow.
Once I put her through her paces, I'll give a detailed review.
Sig spelling now corrected...
Review Please???!!!
squank
Active member
Ok, it's taken me too long to get back to this. Wow, timing was just bad... My 2 bands combined for rehearsal 4 out of 5 nights last week (cool, but time-consuming), and my family just got back in town on Friday, after having been gone for 3 weeks. So I couldn't ditch them for more analytical Diezel jamming
I won't rehash what Reza and others have said. They've done a good job describing the basic tones and feel of the amp. What I will do is describe some of the more subtle things I found, and some surprises.
First, there is a lot of gain in this amp. A LOT. And I don't mean what you think I mean. I mean much more than what you are thinking. If gain was gold, this would be the Ft Knox of amps (assuming we still have gold in Ft Knox - but that's a different discussion). So distortion galore on Channels 3 and 4. No big surprise there. Again, already been covered by other forum members. I'll just say that I was VERY pleasantly surprised at how much tone shaping there is in these very dirty channels when tweaking the channel volume, channel gain, and MV together. And also, working the pre EQ together with the post EQ (deep/presence) can also let you dial in some great variety. Not ground breaking, new technology, but very nice and offers great flexibility. You can get the big chug, you can get the edgy, Du Hast sound, you can get the thumping palm muted tones, and of course lots more. It delivers exactly what you'd expect from a Diezel distortion channel.
It's not as tight as a VH4 on the higher gain stuff, but it can be more open sounding, which is what I wanted.
Ch 1 has some really great cleans. Sure, it will break up nicely if you crank the channel gain, but that's not what I want from a clean channel. I've already got amps that break up well. I love a clean channel that can stay clean, and this one can. It also responds well to a good single coil neck pickup and tone roll off. I was spanky clean with my Nocaster (which I do enjoy from time to time). I could use this amp in Nashville if I wanted. Well, that's to say, I could, if anyone would ever let me play in Nashville. Which they won't, so I'm not sure why I bothered to say that.
But channel 2 (crunch) was the biggest surprise. And it might also end up being where a lot of Hagan users end up spending a lot (dare I say, most?) of their time. The gain sweep is WIDE. Here is where Peter really shows his brilliance. IT'S REALLY A TRUE CRUNCH CHANNEL. Not just a tamed high gain channel. It's a honest, true blue, basic crunch channel. It goes from barely dirty, to 60's Zeppelin and ZZ Top to 70's Allman Brothers, KISS, and Doobies, to early VH. And then it pushes through to 80's hard rock. Night Ranger, then Ratt, up through GnR and more as you max the channel gain. It's very plexi-ish in the crunch mode. This blew me away.
Almost every other multichannel amp out there with a "crunch channel" is just a scaled back version of their high gain channel. They are invariably weak sounding, when compared with the high gain channel.
Not the Hagan.
All those sounds are in that one channel. It's practically worth the price of admission just to get that channel. Well, no, I guess I wouldn't really pay $4,350 for a single channel amp. Nobody would. That's just stupid. Forget I said that.
But that fantastically WIDE ranging crunch channel, along with GREAT cleans, and, of course, textbook Diezel high gain, makes the Hagan a truly worthy successor to the VH4, and a great new flagship for Diezel in this new decade. It leaves me wondering, "What else would I really want?" Of course, this is ridiculously rhetorical, because I just bought another amp a few hours ago. But that's because I have stupid GAS. I don't need the new amp. And it certainly doesn't have the flexibility or gig dynamic usability of the Hagan.
So, in conclusion, I won't be asking Brad for a refund. Or, to quote a movie (which I tend to do WAY too often
JULES: "Vincent - We happy?"
VINCENT: "Oh, yea, we happy!"
I won't rehash what Reza and others have said. They've done a good job describing the basic tones and feel of the amp. What I will do is describe some of the more subtle things I found, and some surprises.
First, there is a lot of gain in this amp. A LOT. And I don't mean what you think I mean. I mean much more than what you are thinking. If gain was gold, this would be the Ft Knox of amps (assuming we still have gold in Ft Knox - but that's a different discussion). So distortion galore on Channels 3 and 4. No big surprise there. Again, already been covered by other forum members. I'll just say that I was VERY pleasantly surprised at how much tone shaping there is in these very dirty channels when tweaking the channel volume, channel gain, and MV together. And also, working the pre EQ together with the post EQ (deep/presence) can also let you dial in some great variety. Not ground breaking, new technology, but very nice and offers great flexibility. You can get the big chug, you can get the edgy, Du Hast sound, you can get the thumping palm muted tones, and of course lots more. It delivers exactly what you'd expect from a Diezel distortion channel.
It's not as tight as a VH4 on the higher gain stuff, but it can be more open sounding, which is what I wanted.
Ch 1 has some really great cleans. Sure, it will break up nicely if you crank the channel gain, but that's not what I want from a clean channel. I've already got amps that break up well. I love a clean channel that can stay clean, and this one can. It also responds well to a good single coil neck pickup and tone roll off. I was spanky clean with my Nocaster (which I do enjoy from time to time). I could use this amp in Nashville if I wanted. Well, that's to say, I could, if anyone would ever let me play in Nashville. Which they won't, so I'm not sure why I bothered to say that.
But channel 2 (crunch) was the biggest surprise. And it might also end up being where a lot of Hagan users end up spending a lot (dare I say, most?) of their time. The gain sweep is WIDE. Here is where Peter really shows his brilliance. IT'S REALLY A TRUE CRUNCH CHANNEL. Not just a tamed high gain channel. It's a honest, true blue, basic crunch channel. It goes from barely dirty, to 60's Zeppelin and ZZ Top to 70's Allman Brothers, KISS, and Doobies, to early VH. And then it pushes through to 80's hard rock. Night Ranger, then Ratt, up through GnR and more as you max the channel gain. It's very plexi-ish in the crunch mode. This blew me away.
Almost every other multichannel amp out there with a "crunch channel" is just a scaled back version of their high gain channel. They are invariably weak sounding, when compared with the high gain channel.
Not the Hagan.
All those sounds are in that one channel. It's practically worth the price of admission just to get that channel. Well, no, I guess I wouldn't really pay $4,350 for a single channel amp. Nobody would. That's just stupid. Forget I said that.
But that fantastically WIDE ranging crunch channel, along with GREAT cleans, and, of course, textbook Diezel high gain, makes the Hagan a truly worthy successor to the VH4, and a great new flagship for Diezel in this new decade. It leaves me wondering, "What else would I really want?" Of course, this is ridiculously rhetorical, because I just bought another amp a few hours ago. But that's because I have stupid GAS. I don't need the new amp. And it certainly doesn't have the flexibility or gig dynamic usability of the Hagan.
So, in conclusion, I won't be asking Brad for a refund. Or, to quote a movie (which I tend to do WAY too often
JULES: "Vincent - We happy?"
VINCENT: "Oh, yea, we happy!"
angelspade
Well-known member
Thanks for the review man...Greatly appreciated! Well...It's starting to sound like the Hagen is everything that it was anticipated to be, and meeting and beating expectations.
PaulyPanacea
Active member
Tone Monster
Well-known member
Awesome!
RaulTx
Member
It's really great to read all your reviews!! (and the 1st cause of divorce around this forum 
)
I'm still not very clear about if the Hagen is nearer to the VH4 or the Herbert, what do you say?
PD. I'm still waiting Ventura's review!!
)I'm still not very clear about if the Hagen is nearer to the VH4 or the Herbert, what do you say?
PD. I'm still waiting Ventura's review!!
adrian
New member
Hi,
thanks for the greate review.
anyway I found something in your review that looks like a german sence! You wrote : " Du hast sound"
was it realy thought like that
Cheers
Greets from germany to the board
Adrian
thanks for the greate review.
anyway I found something in your review that looks like a german sence! You wrote : " Du hast sound"
was it realy thought like that
Cheers
Greets from germany to the board
Adrian
squank
Active member
Hi Adrian,adrian":2jhm8yyy said:Hi,
thanks for the greate review.
anyway I found something in your review that looks like a german sence! You wrote : " Du hast sound"
was it realy thought like that
Cheers
Greets from germany to the board
Adrian
Thanks, and greetings to Germany!
When I said "Du Hast" sound, I am referring to the tone in the song by Rammstein.
Bill
adrian
New member
Ha cool thanks. And it fits .....
In this case : " Du hast" den Ton - You have the sound of Hagen.
Cheers
Adrian
In this case : " Du hast" den Ton - You have the sound of Hagen.
Cheers
Adrian
angelspade
Well-known member
RaulTx":15fkm0rw said:It's really great to read all your reviews!! (and the 1st cause of divorce around this forum
I'm still not very clear about if the Hagen is nearer to the VH4 or the Herbert, what do you say?
PD. I'm still waiting Ventura's review!!
I don't own a Hagen, but I do own a Herbert and a VH4...And I can tell you that from the clips and videos that I have reviewed it seems that the Hagen is a bit closer to the VH4. The Hagen DOES seem to be generally thicker and deeper than the VH4, but without the absolutely frightening low-end thump of the Herbert. It also doesnt's sound as smooth as the Herbert...A little less "produced sounding" with a little more mid-grind...And a TON of gain. Just my opinion from what I am hearing...Perhaps a forum member who owns (or has had signifigant experience with) both will chime in. I know that we are all very interested in comparisons (similarities and differences) between the Hagen, VH4 and Herbert.
angelspade
Well-known member
Rezamatix":1sn135o6 said:
Do you own a Herbert? Or have you owned one in the past?
Ventura
Well-known member
Hagen's arriving this week cats. Ya, I'm a bit put off by the delay, but that's no one's fault other than the fact that I'm the only iceback getting one, and duties and shipping and alll that jazz needed to get squared away.
It's coming soon. And I'll be putting it through it's paces immediately. I've got a sweet G12K loaded 4x12 awaiting some horsepower and this is gonna be awesome. I'm stoked. But then again, not really know what to expect, I'm open to hear it without influenced ears, if that makes any sense at all. Reza's been great with explaining it all, and this latest review seems to nail it home too. If it's a bit looser and a bit more open while retaining the tonal bliss of the V, I'll be 100% absolutely head over heels in love. But I won't know until I lay my own palm muted goodness into it
Peace Y'All, the wait's been a bit cold...
Mojo
It's coming soon. And I'll be putting it through it's paces immediately. I've got a sweet G12K loaded 4x12 awaiting some horsepower and this is gonna be awesome. I'm stoked. But then again, not really know what to expect, I'm open to hear it without influenced ears, if that makes any sense at all. Reza's been great with explaining it all, and this latest
review seems to nail it home too. If it's a bit looser and a bit more open while retaining the tonal bliss of the V, I'll be 100% absolutely head over heels in love. But I won't know until I lay my own palm muted goodness into it Peace Y'All, the wait's been a bit cold...
Mojo
Ventura
Well-known member
Man, this is the first time in a LONG time I'm actually excited like a little school girl about some incoming kit 
Wait's been a bitch - duly noted Brad, ahem!! - but you know, Poppa says, Mo does, and the beat goes on...
COME ON HAGEN!!
Mo
Wait's been a bitch - duly noted Brad, ahem!! - but you know, Poppa says, Mo does, and the beat goes on...
COME ON HAGEN!!
Mo
spirit7
Active member
Rezamatix":20kwoiru said:Yup, I had a borrowed Herbert mk1 in my possession for a week while my friend was out of town, I told him I wouldn't gig it.angelspade":20kwoiru said:
Why wouldn't you gig it? I'd gig mine over my VH4 and, having done so, can assure you that the "it doesn't cut" argument is bollox.
-C
Ventura
Well-known member
I assumed with the smiley face that you were being tongue in cheek about promising not to gig it for this very reason, not wanting to scuff it up and stuff... So Reza, how did it gigRezamatix":1aez40hp said:
Mo
squank
Active member
Yea, that's what I thought, too. I figured you snuk outta the house via the back door to avoid any incriminating photoVentura":86ppqrc5 said:I assumed with the smiley face that you were being tongue in cheek about promising not to gig it for this very reason, not wanting to scuff it up and stuff... So Reza, how did it gigRezamatix":86ppqrc5 said:
Mo