EVH used the phaser to loosen his shit up................

[Anonymous]

these things are good....

These things are good: ice cream and cake, a ride on a harley, seeing monkeys in the trees, the rain on my tongue, and the sun shining on my face. These things are a drag: dust in my hair, holes in my shoes, no money in my pocket, and the sun shining on my face.

Hey, Why the long face?

wasn't she naked in Sideways? not as good as the FFMN of the guy chasing Scotty Giamatti

She's even more naken in "Dancing at the Blue Iguana"... She does a fully nude strip club dance...

Steve

 

[Gainfreak]

The only thing that I have noticed when using a Phaser in front of a Plexi is that it wets up the sound a bit but when it sweeps at a peak, the added midrange makes it easier to play IMHO. Im not sure it loosens shit up but whenever you get a midrange boost it makes it appear to have more oooomph so to speak. At least it does for me.

That's all I got

 

[Chubtone]

Yeah, what Steve said...this is the most latently gay, useless thread ever.

you have much to learn, young grasshopper.

Perhaps, but be that as it may, anyone who has run a Phase 90 into a cranked Plexi/Superlead can tell you that it doesn't loosen anything up, nor does it soften the attack or feel. I wasn't attempting to be argumentative, just share my experience from consistent results when using a phase 90 with a setup very similar to Ed's.

Pre-serial # Ibanez Destroyer with a MM 1300 pup, phase90, mxr 6 band, ep-3 pre, plexi clone, 4x12 with Rola greenbacks. Amp is set-up with the specs Dave Friedman gave, biased to 80ma then dropped to 90v. I have a lot to learn? Fair enough, how many of YOU have done this? The P90 doesn't do what you're claiming it does.

wow serious much? get the sand out of your vagina. no one cares that you're a psycho van halen freak.

I care and DIG the info he is providing in this thread. I'm not a psycho Van Halen freak but am a huge Van Halen fan as is a large percentage of Rig Talk and his info in this thread is cool as is the typical RT joking.

And this "grasshopper" thing has got to stop. You said it's your line. The first time I read it on Rig Talk was Brad saying it to danyeo because danyeo thought $1100 for a Klon was too much money for a pedal. Calling someone grasshopper is the same as saying, "I'm the master and you're the student". ON RT, there are so many smokin' players that declaring yourself the "master" against an unknown is pretty dangerous territory.

 

[mixohoytian]

the real secret is which drug to take to loosen up your fingers

 

[marshall]

I thought he used a Stool Softener

 

[Digital Jams]

Sticking to my thoughts, when I use my EVH phase 90 with the button in the amp seems easier to play.

 

[Anonymous]

Sticking to my thoughts, when I use my EVH phase 90 with the button in the amp seems easier to play.

Steve

 

[steve_k]

I thought he used a Stool Softener

 

[OBGYNkanobi]

Courtesy of one of the members at the Metro Forum:

"There are two 150K mixing resistors. On an old mxr 6-chipper, One(the dry mix) is off of the board and has spaghetti on it's leads it connects near the mixing transistor adjacent to three resistors, 10K, 150K, and another 150K. The 150K in the center is the other mix(wet mix) resistor. Varying either one of these will decrease the phase effect. Try parallelling some high value resistors(200K+) across the dry mix resistor(the one off of the board)".

I did mess with the bias pot that biases the FETs, and I had to get my pedal fixed. Some guys have tried it with good results, but I killed mine after about 3 or 4 turns of the pot. It sounded great right up until the point it died. My Script reissue has a higher value dry mix resistor, and it does indeed make the pedal more subtle and more of a treble boost; a nice trick for sure. Some guys have messed with the bias of the FETs with favorable results; just be careful.

This mod is cool for lots of other stuff than just trying to get Ed's sound; basically just making your phas 90 more subtle, so all of you non-VH freaks might like it as well.

Digital Jams, the only thing I can think of that would do what you're describing is if the battery is going out or there is something unique and/or wrong with your pedal. Bottom line though; if it sounds good, it is good. However, what you're describing is not the norm at all, and it isn't the "tonal contribution" Ed was getting from his. That came from the power section of his amp, but if you're getting the goods from your pedal the way it is, roll with it bro. Maybe we'll all be modding our pedals to be like yours one day.

 

[halford]

i cant believe i just read all that !!

good read

 

[OBGYNkanobi]

Sticking to my thoughts, when I use my EVH phase 90 with the button in the amp seems easier to play.

Steve

The "EVH button" disengages a 22k feedback resistor that just makes the phase more subtle; this is just like having the "R28 Mod" switchable. Guys have been doing this mod since the block logo Phase 90's came out; it's nothing new.

The resulting sound is more subtle than a block logo Phase 90, but less than the earlier script. There are more differences than just this alone though. The EVH phase 90 still uses the Block logo circuit. This button does nothing to change the feel, unless there's some craziness going on in your pedal.

 

[glpg80]

Sticking to my thoughts, when I use my EVH phase 90 with the button in the amp seems easier to play.

Steve

The "EVH button" disengages a 22k feedback resistor that just makes the phase more subtle; this is just like having the "R28 Mod" switchable. Guys have been doing this mod since the block logo Phase 90's came out; it's nothing new.

The resulting sound is more subtle than a block logo Phase 90, but less than the earlier script. There are more differences than just this alone though. The EVH phase 90 still uses the Block logo circuit. This button does nothing to change the feel, unless there's some craziness going on in your pedal.

that is alot of good information. i stand corrected and apologize

the only thing that could change the feel would be an impedance buffer due to the guitar pickup, chord, and amplifier input grid design hence my original comment, the pedal could be acting as a high impedance buffer when turned on. or scott was just tripping hard on some prescription medication

 

[glpg80]

Yeah, what Steve said...this is the most latently gay, useless thread ever.

you have much to learn, young grasshopper.

Perhaps, but be that as it may, anyone who has run a Phase 90 into a cranked Plexi/Superlead can tell you that it doesn't loosen anything up, nor does it soften the attack or feel. I wasn't attempting to be argumentative, just share my experience from consistent results when using a phase 90 with a setup very similar to Ed's.

Pre-serial # Ibanez Destroyer with a MM 1300 pup, phase90, mxr 6 band, ep-3 pre, plexi clone, 4x12 with Rola greenbacks. Amp is set-up with the specs Dave Friedman gave, biased to 80ma then dropped to 90v. I have a lot to learn? Fair enough, how many of YOU have done this? The P90 doesn't do what you're claiming it does.

wow serious much? get the sand out of your vagina. no one cares that you're a psycho van halen freak.

I care and DIG the info he is providing in this thread. I'm not a psycho Van Halen freak but am a huge Van Halen fan as is a large percentage of Rig Talk and his info in this thread is cool as is the typical RT joking.

And this "grasshopper" thing has got to stop. You said it's your line. The first time I read it on Rig Talk was Brad saying it to danyeo because danyeo thought $1100 for a Klon was too much money for a pedal. Calling someone grasshopper is the same as saying, "I'm the master and you're the student". ON RT, there are so many smokin' players that declaring yourself the "master" against an unknown is pretty dangerous territory.

too many people getting their panties in a wad.

my original post about grasshopper was only a fucking joke - on the subject about the gayness of the thread, and how it was the "gayest thread he had seen."

i was originally going to post "i could be a friend to you..." but since barzini was online at the time i figured i would wait for his reply.

too many people need to take a trip down easy street and quit trying to start shit from nothing, jesus. scott, start passing around more of those meds!

 

[OBGYNkanobi]

I'm generally pretty laid back, and it's not normally my style to enter a thread coming from the top rope, but I've gotta say I was a little miffed when I read this post; here's why...

There's always someone who doesn't have a really good understanding of how to get the tone he hears in his head(all of us to some degree, but some guys have no clue...even some guys that can really play), and so they sift through forums like this one, and others like it, trying to gain some insight into how to get that "Brown Sound", "most brutal distortion ever", AFD/Slash tone or what have you. I've read so much non-sense in the last few weeks that it just kind of reached a boiling point when I read this thread, because baring something out of the ordinary happening with Scott's pedal, that just doesn't happen with a phase 90. It's not what that pedal does, unless you're battery is going dead and that is not a good sound.

So some kid takes a trip down to his local GC or buys one on fleabay only to get home or take it to his next practice or gig and be disappointed with it and no further along in getting the sound he hears in his head

Hey, we're all here to have a good time; believe me I get it. I'm not on a trip trying to play internet commando, but there should be some accountability for what you say. It should be accurate. Like I said; I just wanna help. Ya'll have a good one.

 

[ConcreteVampire]

So to recap....
To nail the Eddie/phased tone...

Take a stool softener, qualude cocktail
Make a prociutto, capacolla sammich
Take a hammer to the insides of a script p90
Then go to hell cause my steak looks like cawk.

Got it!


Fwiw: I paid $100 for my beat to hell 86 merican baretta, and $10 for my Arion phaser.... and it sounds just fine thru my VHT. I'm far more interested in the phrasing than the diodes involved...

That kid dropping cash at the GC over shit he hears on the net will like us all, understand after years and much $$$ and arguin....

the tones been in his fingers the whole time....

 

[halford]

That kid dropping cash at the GC over shit he hears on the net will like us all, understand after years and much $$$ and arguin....

the tones been in his fingers the whole time....

 

[OBGYNkanobi]

A 68 Plexi cranked to 10 will show your chops for what they are no matter what you stick in front of it. I remember when I sold my Voodoo modded 6505 for a Mojave Peacemaker; oh man was that a wake up call! There's amps that are very easy and forgiving to play with plenty of gain to hide behind and then there's those that are incredibly rewarding, but will expose you're playing exactly for what it is. Ed's amp is one of those.

There's always going to be that guy that needs to worry less about gear and more about practicing. I've been there for sure, but there's also the guy that can play and is in a position to need good advice in regards to gear and gets bad advice instead; I've been there too.

 

[Chubtone]

wow serious much? get the sand out of your vagina. no one cares that you're a psycho van halen freak.

too many people getting their panties in a wad.

my original post about grasshopper was only a fucking joke - on the subject about the gayness of the thread, and how it was the "gayest thread he had seen."

i was originally going to post "i could be a friend to you..." but since barzini was online at the time i figured i would wait for his reply.

too many people need to take a trip down easy street and quit trying to start shit from nothing, jesus. scott, start passing around more of those meds!

No getting panties in a wad. You were being a douche. Plain and simple. His posts were cool. Yours weren't. His posts were valuable to this thread. Yours weren't. That's all there was to it. You were being a dick. I called you on it. I didn't want the fairly new to Rig Talk, OBGYN to think no one cared what he was posting because I read every single word of it and appreciated it.

You normally have valuable contributions and are cool and I have no problem with you. It's not like I'm never a weenie to someone on line or that my humor never misses the mark. Because I am and it does. So again, I dig most of your contributions, just don't be dissing the EVH freaks because we will pelt you with empty Viagra and Metamucil containers to teach you a lesson, sonny.