EVH v VH4...just an observation....

[borninwinter]

Seriously, what the fuck is the point of all this? We need another thread? Do you want to declare that you have the best amp and put it on a tshirt? Why is it so hard to accept that people have different tastes? Truth is, EVH himself is going to sound better than you whether he's plugged into an evh amp, a diezel, a $20 pawn shop special, or plunking away on a fuckin ukulale or something. I can't be a rockstar, but at least I can have a status symbol? Fine, lets stipulate that the VH4 shits all over everything (wish I hadn't sold mine NOW). Feel better about your lives?

Btw - i had to have my diezel worked on once. Probably the first time it happened to someone...

the thread was made just to piss you off!
b/w
YOU SHOWED US WHO IS BOSS MAN!

I'm not pissed off at all. Using sarcasm to illustrate a point - here's another version:

Suppose you met a businessman who had a $4k tailored suit, and who started every conversation by saying "did you notice my suit? it costs $4k and is the height of male fashion. not like the rags you're wearing." Putting aside the subjective value of fashion, you might nonetheless call this person an asshole. I'm all for "discussing gear," but arguing over whose totally got the best fucking amp of all time ask anyone no fucking question man isn't "discussing gear" it's a dick-measuring contest. and a lame one.

 

[borninwinter]

I've had my 100w head since 2008, played 100s of shows with it and I've never had a problem with it.

Same here but mines a Diezel

Its the better amp...Its always gonna be the better amp and the ones who play them , live and in the studio know this. Does it SOUND better? thats subjective...but from a build quality standpoint its better than almost every amp out there. Maybe thats why it costs what it does....

If you don't like the core tone, you might question the value to you of that core tone plus an over engineered build, 4 channels, six effects loop and midi.

Anyway, apples to apples as far as price range goes would be Stealth vs Lil Fokker. Anyone gonna put up that dick-measuring contest?

 

[rottingcorpse]

My penis is quite tiny. But my amps are very expensive to compensate for it.

My balls are very big and hairy, very much like my tone. The testicles do smell like shit, but that's because I wipe left to right instead of front to back.

 

[nevusofota]

Had my original version EVH since 2007. One of the first 400 made. Played numerous shows and practices and never had a problem. Maybe it's because it's only ever been plugged into a voltage regulator/conditioner and I've never used the footswitch, only Switched channels via midi.

Most people never believe me when I say I went to the store that day to pick up an SLO (cash in hand) and left with the EVH. I thought it was going to be temporary and I'd return it for the SLO but it stayed.

 

[Tone Zone]

I've had my 100w head since 2008, played 100s of shows with it and I've never had a problem with it.

Same here but mines a Diezel

Its the better amp...Its always gonna be the better amp and the ones who play them , live and in the studio know this. Does it SOUND better? thats subjective...but from a build quality standpoint its better than almost every amp out there. Maybe thats why it costs what it does....

Keep telling yourself that....maybe one day, you'll actually believe it!

 

[borninwinter]

Had my original version EVH since 2007. One of the first 400 made. Played numerous shows and practices and never had a problem. Maybe it's because it's only ever been plugged into a voltage regulator/conditioner and I've never used the footswitch, only Switched channels via midi.

Most people never believe me when I say I went to the store that day to pick up an SLO (cash in hand) and left with the EVH. I thought it was going to be temporary and I'd return it for the SLO but it stayed.

I've actually owned all the Diezels except the Dmoll. They're definitely nice amps. But, I think EVH sounds better. So I really don't care about the extra features. I wonder how many people with such strident opinions have actually compared them side-by-side.

 

[Tone Zone]

I've had my 100w head since 2008, played 100s of shows with it and I've never had a problem with it.

Same here but mines a Diezel

Its the better amp...Its always gonna be the better amp and the ones who play them , live and in the studio know this. Does it SOUND better? thats subjective...but from a build quality standpoint its better than almost every amp out there. Maybe thats why it costs what it does....

Keep telling yourself that....maybe one day, you'll actually believe it!

How about you stay in denial and keep playing your cheap fizz box

 

[borninwinter]

I've had my 100w head since 2008, played 100s of shows with it and I've never had a problem with it.

Same here but mines a Diezel

Its the better amp...Its always gonna be the better amp and the ones who play them , live and in the studio know this. Does it SOUND better? thats subjective...but from a build quality standpoint its better than almost every amp out there. Maybe thats why it costs what it does....

Keep telling yourself that....maybe one day, you'll actually believe it!

How about you stay in denial and keep playing your cheap fizz box

"So about Gojira’s guitar setups: obviously you guys have a very big sound with a lot of low end. How do you make a point of getting the note clarity? What’s your setup?

It’s a pretty simple setup, but it took us 20 years to get there, to find the right balance I guess. We’re still looking for the perfect combination; we can always find better. But what we have so far… Personally I’m using the limited edition of the EVH. It’s a modified version of the 5150 III, called the “Stealth.” It’s killer. The gain is insane. In general we’ve been using EVH for 5-6 years now, or even more, and we don’t need to add anything. We have a tuner and a noise suppressor and a delay pedal, and that’s it."
http://geargods.net/rigged/i-wanted-to- ... uplantier/

Does sound like a cheap fizz box though:

 

[borninwinter]

Re the Ola vids:

Would have liked to hear the EVH through that Mesa cab.

Also:

 

[borninwinter]

Gojira is awesome. They got the two notes torpedoes in the back there making sure there sound is manicured properly.

Funny though it was only last month they were calling up and asking for some BE-100"s....I wonder why.

HEY LOOK OVER THERE!!



To replace their cheap fizz boxes I guess. I'm sure they get to try everything and Friedman's pretty hot right now. Not sure the BE-100 would be my first thought for their sounds but who knows. It's above $3k so I guess it would pass. What's that got to do with Diezel anyway? Do appreciate the sorta kinda insider info though...

 

[Racerxrated]

Seriously, what the fuck is the point of all this? We need another thread?

You really need to ask? It's all right here:

Soooo...no trying to start a shitstorm....really....truly....but....

Maybe there is something to "you get what you pay for"........

Just fn with you EVH police....... Calm down....

OK. I'm sorry. What can I say. I was bored last night working overnights.

 

[borninwinter]

Out of the box. Your gonna get sounds like you heard in the Ola Videos, if your in a studio, or in a world class band with a massive support crew and a proper (and super badass) FOH mixer like Gojira has, your gonna get a different sound.

That being said, the 5150's are great amps, I'm not mad at them, my good buddy has one and it's fun to chuck some metals riffs on them when I visit him. But it's not the sound I want live. It's not an amp I would rush out and buy for full price.

But that's my taste. My response was more to do with the quality of design and build.
Tone is subjective.

My guess is that Ola tone in that vid (agree is not great) has mostly to do with - a. the volume is on like 1, b. 1x12, c. that one speaker is a G12H.

Plug into two notes torpedo with a v30 cab, get volume up to 9-10 o'clock and it doesn't take any special skill to get gojira's sound . On the 50 you can go gain at 1'clock and everything else at noon and get pretty close.

 

[Deanmachine]

Evh .....box of rocks..

 

[BrentSSL]

I love rig talk

 

[Anonymous]

I'm sure the deizel is very well made, but in all honesty, I can't stand the tone it puts out. And the ola guy on YT...
Does nothing for me in terms of playing/tone.

It sounds mushy, compressed, and too dark. Simply not my thing. A Splawn QR to me is years ahead, all subjective.

 

[RG955TT]

How can you not "stand" the sound a properly working VH4 puts out? It's not like it's a completely different sound than other Marshall based amps...channel 3 alone is on an awful lot of recordings and VH4's are in a ton of studios. Man oh man some of the remarks on here really lack credibility..it's like "I played one once in a GC for 5 minutes at mouse fart volume with bad tubes and other issues...WTF? I bet a lot of these comments come from people who have never played one (VH4) at all. It's not like many stores carry them. I've had all 3 versions on the EVH amps, all good, sound a bit artificial, over saturated and "plasticky" IMO. But still a very good amp for the money and does a lot, quite versatile. However I think the VH4 is a far better amp and built like a brick shithouse out of top shelf components. With 4 channels all of which excel at what they do plus multiple loops that do not color the tone and Midi switching it is one the top tier guitar amps ever made...period! I sold all of the EVH amps in the end. Still have the VH4.

 

[Racerxrated]

I'm one of those who spent a small amount of time with one....I'm a Marshall guy so Diezel isn't my thing. But I could still tell the amp had great articulation and definition, and like all great amps got amazing as you turned it up. And if people like the tone of the EVH better that's fine. But to say its better is just silly. The VH4 will be around in 50 years. Those EVH amps.....they're already having problems right out of the box lol..at least some of them. Great value for the money..but like I said..sometimes you do get what you pay for. An amp that is 1k used and a better value? VHT Deliverance......and another amp built very well. Or any VHT product.....good stuff. I'd rather spend 1K on a used vintage 800 or VHT or Splawn or...build quality on those is clearly better.

 

[ejecta]

How can you not "stand" the sound a properly working VH4 puts out? It's not like it's a completely different sound than other Marshall based amps...channel 3 alone is on an awful lot of recordings and VH4's are in a ton of studios. Man oh man some of the remarks on here really lack credibility..it's like "I played one once in a GC for 5 minutes at mouse fart volume with bad tubes and other issues...WTF? I bet a lot of these comments come from people who have never played one (VH4) at all. It's not like many stores carry them. I've had all 3 versions on the EVH amps, all good, sound a bit artificial, over saturated and "plasticky" IMO. But still a very good amp for the money and does a lot, quite versatile. However I think the VH4 is a far better amp and built like a brick shithouse out of top shelf components. With 4 channels all of which excel at what they do plus multiple loops that do not color the tone and Midi switching it is one the top tier guitar amps ever made...period! I sold all of the EVH amps in the end. Still have the VH4.

It's like someone who has never driven a Porsche but think they suck at handling. It's a joke.
They prefer their Hyundai and think it's the best handling car on the road...

And people like myself have owned several Diezels and still don't want to own one. Seriously..... I could buy any amp I want and I have owned far too many amps to count from the top of the line to some of the cheaper amps and I learned that high dollar doesn't always equal great tone or extraordinary reliability. Like I said I had more issues with the Diezel's I had than I have had with some cheaper amps. Does that make the cheaper amps better or Deizel's bad amps? Hell no.

Price doesn't always equal quality...... I'm a custom jewelry designer and I can build a better piece of jewelery than any brand name piece that costs double what I charge. Same with amps.

I say screw preconceived notions play what you like and stop listening with your wallet.

 

[BrentSSL]

/\ /\ well in that case I'm going back to a 3 channel dual rectifier lol for convenience lol or maybe a roadster

 

[RG955TT]

How can you not "stand" the sound a properly working VH4 puts out? It's not like it's a completely different sound than other Marshall based amps...channel 3 alone is on an awful lot of recordings and VH4's are in a ton of studios. Man oh man some of the remarks on here really lack credibility..it's like "I played one once in a GC for 5 minutes at mouse fart volume with bad tubes and other issues...WTF? I bet a lot of these comments come from people who have never played one (VH4) at all. It's not like many stores carry them. I've had all 3 versions on the EVH amps, all good, sound a bit artificial, over saturated and "plasticky" IMO. But still a very good amp for the money and does a lot, quite versatile. However I think the VH4 is a far better amp and built like a brick shithouse out of top shelf components. With 4 channels all of which excel at what they do plus multiple loops that do not color the tone and Midi switching it is one the top tier guitar amps ever made...period! I sold all of the EVH amps in the end. Still have the VH4.

It's like someone who has never driven a Porsche but think they suck at handling. It's a joke.
They prefer their Hyundai and think it's the best handling car on the road...

And people like myself have owned several Diezels and still don't want to own one. Look seriously..... I could buy any amp I want. I have owned far too many amps to count from the top of the line to some of the cheaper amps and I learned that high dollar doesn't always equal great tone or great build quality. Like I said I had more issues with the Diezel's I had than I have had with some cheaper amps. Does that make the cheaper amps better or Deizel's bad amps? Hell no.

Price doesn't always equal quality...... I'm a custom jewelry designer and I can build a better piece of jewelery than any brand name piece that costs double what I charge. Same with amps.

I say screw preconceived notions play what you like and stop listening with your wallet.

I have owned anything I want so my wallet isn't doing the listening and that's another constant inference that is bogus...maybe you never tried the "right" Diezel? Or maybe true that they just aren't exactly what you're looking for but to say "I can't stand it" like its some foreign tone that's so completely outside what other amps do is just silly. Diezel make like 5 or 6 different amps with different tones...just sayin