Favorite High Gain Amp Plugged Straight in No Pedals

[novosibir]

It's so much easier if you have the schematic..

Yes, definitely - but back in 2015 this schem still didn't exist anywhere ?

Btw this schem differs to the official Randall Satan schem and to the physical Satan, who does have a Sweep control (B100K) and no Sweep switch.

And yes, this schem shows exactly the circuitry of the Scream channel of that DINO 939 (ref. 2.0) what I've built for Mike Fortin (Serial-№: 0687) back in 2006 right after his personal demands concerning the sound (had to choose different component's values).

Differences between the Scream channel of MF's DINO to this schem:
- no Sweep switch, also no Sweep control like in the real Satan
- different resistor & electrolytic values in the voltage supply rail
- altogether 9 component's values different
- altogether 13 component's values different to my common DINO circuits of that time

Strange and interestingly as well is the fact, that Mike has decided to copy the Scream channel for using first in his Natas (still w/o Sweep) and later also for the Randall Satan, although way most of the DINO users prefer the British HotRod channel (also Jon Schaffer) as for their preferred rhythm & solo sound, where the Bite & Punch controls (Fortin: Girth & Grind) are designed different to the B&P controls in the Scream channel and moreover are located in different spots of the circuit.

Maybe the British HotRod channel has been too quick and too unforgivingly for his playing skills?

 

[novosibir]

If it was just for the wait it would still worth it.
The problem is that Larry will keep coming up with excuses after excuses to delay your amp, that was paid in full, with no discount at all, ordered with all the optional accessories(NOS Pre and Power Tubes, Foot Switch, Road Case), delivered missing parts. And will use the Covid excuse for not sending you what you paid for, while delivering amps not missing parts to other people.
Trust me, this just makes the wait even worst.

There was a time years ago, where it seemed that you'd have been much more pleased by your Larry amps than meanwhile.

Are you meanwhile also a member of the same club, where the members like to throw dirt onto the rep of others?

Convince yourself obout your meanings of the past:

https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/nad-larry-british-purist.209276/

Received this amp about 10 days ago, and wanted to have some time with it before posting any review.
Sorry, no clips or videos, but I’m planning on doing some very soon.
The waiting time to get this amp is very long, but boy this thing is worth the wait!
The amp is a foot switchable two channels, with a tube buffered Fx loop and an all tube boost with gain, treble and bass.
The first channel is called Classic, and it’s based on the early SLP Marshall, I believe Larry mentioned a 1968, to be more exact. And it delivers that amazing clean and bold tone when at low volume, and punchy and huge tone when pushed above 10:00, where it is already overdriven and extremely loud. It’s called Classic and that’s exactly what it delivers. Stepping on the Boost button on the FS turns on a pre set mid boost that gives you even more midrange punch, and makes the notes that before were already singing with feedback even more fluid. Big chords through this channel is instant AC/DC and Free.
This channel alone makes it worth getting the amp.
The other channel is named Rough, and it’s based on a mid 70’s Marshall with Master Volume. This Rough channel is hard to describe, because it’s one of the most dynamic and harmonically complex master volume sounding amp I’ve heard to date. It’s nothing similar to the Dino, which is a completely different beast. The British Purist won’t give you the palm mute chugging speaker blast that the Dino does, but it’s a very refined, harmonically complex, beautiful sounding amp. You also have the boost on the back of the amp, which consists of a pre-gain knob, a bite and punch knobs. One does tailor the high end, while the other works the low end. Both in its unique way of shaping the tone without making in muddy or overdoing it. You can get an absurd of tones with this channel. I’ve played a lot of classic rock songs and riffs, from Led Zeppelin, to Gov’t Mule, to Scorpions and Accept, and pretty much everything where you could use and amazingly well tuned up late 70s Marshall.
There are also 4 fine tuning switches by the OT that you can use to ad more presence or low end to each of the channels.
I’ll do some clips soon and post them as a follow through of this post. I need to get clips for both amps on the picture.
Making a long story short, this amp is a beast!

https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/short-audio-clip-of-the-larry-dino-962.211049/

I've used my Les Paul Gary Rossington with PAF, straight into a Larry Dino 962, channel 3 with internal boost on, into a Marshall 4x12 with reissue greenbacks.
SM57 and Royer R-121. No post eq, compression or any fx added.
Hope you enjoy and this can bring an idea of how great these amps sound!

It's amazing how tight, clear, fast and big the low end is on the Dino. It's something that you need to be in the room to appreciate.
The other thing is how tight and precise this amp is, but never feel stiff or dry.

But yes, times (and opinions) are changing ?‍

 

[Philhouse]

This is *the* litmus test I have for all my amps - none of them should require or tempt me to stick something in front of 'em or in the loop:
Diezel VH4, Hagen, D-Moll
Bogner 20thA XTC and 20th Shiva
/end

100% same. I'm ok with mid gain (JCM800 levels) heads using a boost to push them harder when desired, but a high gain head shouldn't need one for me. They cost too much to not make the grade for me.

 

[skoora]

Like many my #1 for no pedals needed is Mesa Mark. My Quad Pre just has everything right in the box. Even though many think recto's need to be boosted I mostly play my Tremoverb without and love it. Even though it loves pedals, I dont need pedals with my Stiletto either and usually play it without boosts. I just realized I'm hardly using boosts anymore with anything I have...lol

 

[SBlue]

There was a time years ago, where it seemed that you'd have been much more pleased by your Larry amps than meanwhile.

Are you meanwhile also a member of the same club, where the members like to throw dirt onto the rep of others?

Convince yourself obout your meanings of the past:

https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/nad-larry-british-purist.209276/


https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/short-audio-clip-of-the-larry-dino-962.211049/




But yes, times (and opinions) are changing ?‍

I do not belong to any club, because I do not use someone else experience to judge a business.
So, what I've said, and what I say is based on my own experience. Including my experience with you.
I still think both the Dino and the British Purist sound incredible. Haven't changed my mind a bit about that. But both my Camerons and my Hermanssons do sound as good, if not better for certain applications, as your amps.
The main difference here is that, everyone else I've dealt with, when delivered their amps or mods, sent them with all the parts I've paid for, and every single one of them were much cheaper than yours, delivered in most cases 10x faster, and they didn't bullshit me about pushing back the delivery time over and over again.
The only amp maker who was full of shit, after we close the deal and he got my amp, was Mike Fortin, who almost a year after, took the blame, assumed the fuckup and "PAID ME FOR THE AMP".
So, you're the only one who took the money and run away. Bullshitted for me almost two years, saying was sending the back panel, and never did.
So yes, I still like the amps, and yes, you're still a liar and a thief. Even worst than Fortin, who you dislike so much. But at least, he deliver what people paid for. Even if he hasn't designed.

 

[novosibir]

(...)
So, you're the only one who took the money and run away. Bullshitted for me almost two years, saying was sending the back panel, and never did.
So yes, I still like the amps, and yes, you're still a liar and a thief. Even worst than Fortin, who you dislike so much. But at least, he deliver what people paid for. Even if he hasn't designed.

Thank you very much for your kind words, Mister!

But please still tell me, what was my lie, or what have been my lies.
And additional please tell me, what I've stolen from you.

Please don't speak in general, but list up detailled every single point.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to do this ?

 

[SBlue]

But please still tell me, what was my lie, or what have been my lies.
And additional please tell me, what I've stolen from you.

1-You lied when you said you was going to send the back panel missing from my amp, that was fully paid for, and you didn't.
2-The back panel that you charged me for and didn't deliver.

 

[Krull]

 

[Ben Waylin]

 

[John4021]

Fortin Cali....BOOM

 

[novosibir]

SBlue:
So, you're the only one who took the money and run away. Bullshitted for me almost two years, saying was sending the back panel, and never did.
So yes, I still like the amps, and yes, you're still a liar and a thief. Even worst than Fortin, who you dislike so much. But at least, he deliver what people paid for. Even if he hasn't designed.

SBlue:
1-You lied when you said you was going to send the back panel missing from my amp, that was fully paid for, and you didn't.
2-The back panel that you charged me for and didn't deliver.

Ok, to finally clear things up:

1-the back panel on your DINO 962 was mounted, not missing
2-the back panel of your British Purist you claimed was missing

Ok there was none - BUT...
... have you ever seen a photo of a British Purist (or a photo of a Rock Wizard) anywhere in the web - before AND after you've placed your order for the British Purist? Anywhere only one single photo in the web, where a British Purist or a Rock Wizard was supplied with a back panel?

NO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOT ONLY ONE !!!

And why? Because the head shells of the BP and the RW never have been planned to get a back panel at all

To clear it up for the public - while we are speaking here about a "back panel", then this does not mean the rear panel on the chassis, not what the controls etc. are labeled on, but a protective grille behind the power amp tubes.

We're speaking about a shitty cheap sheet metal grid with a production value of 15 euros for each and another 10 euros for the powder coating

So now, why SBlue thought, that there must be a metal grid and what is missing:

I had previously built a British Purist for a customer in Germany who does a lot of touring with the amp and was afraid that a roadie with a microphone stand or similar might accidentally smash his power amp tubes when setting up or dismantling the stage and asked me to have a protective grille made for him and to attach it to the back of his amp for an extra fee.

I then had two sets of brackets and two protective grilles made - and then wanted to equip also SBlue's amp with them as well.

So I had mounted the mounting brackets in his head shell, but then I couldn't find the second protective grille before shipping the amp to SBlue - so I sent his amp to him with the mounting brackets already installed, but without the rear protective grille.

SBlue complained about the lack of the protective grille - and while it's not standard equipment with the amp, I agreed to have one made for him and send it to him later.

Then there were problems at my metal workshop - at first they had forgotten to make the part for a long time. And then they had made such parts, but unfortunately with the wrong dimensions.

Time passed while SBlue got impatient and then angry - and finally he insulted me badly via WhatsApp.

That's the mistake you must never do to me!

I was willing to send him such a part and had promised to do so, even though the part is not part of the standard equipment of the amp - and what the previous customer had paid me extra for. I didn't want any extra reimbursement from SBlue and would even have paid the 40 euros to have it shipped to him out of my own pocket.

After SBlue had badly insulted me, my will to deliver something to him dropped sharply, dropped to zero, so to speak. Nevertheless I offered to apologize to me for his mistake in his choice of words, after which I would send him the protective grille.

But apparently he was too proud or too arrogant to apologize. Nothing came ?‍

And now in hindsight, because of a piece of shit worth a maximum of 25 euros, which is not even part of the standard equipment of his amp, but I would have given him as a treat... that's the only reason he's making such a fuss about it...

... and publicly calls me a liar and a thief - as thanks for my goodwill, which he destroyed with his insult.

Oh yes, there seem to be a few more members on this board who desperately need a good psychotherapist or even a good psychiatrist and good medication.

Hallelujah!

 

[SBlue]

Ok, to finally clear things up:

1-the back panel on your DINO 962 was mounted, not missing
2-the back panel of your British Purist you claimed was missing

Ok there was none - BUT...
... have you ever seen a photo of a British Purist (or a photo of a Rock Wizard) anywhere in the web - before AND after you've placed your order for the British Purist? Anywhere only one single photo in the web, where a British Purist or a Rock Wizard was supplied with a back panel?

NO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOT ONLY ONE !!!

And why? Because the head shells of the BP and the RW never have been planned to get a back panel at all

To clear it up for the public - while we are speaking here about a "back panel", then this does not mean the rear panel on the chassis, not what the controls etc. are labeled on, but a protective grille behind the power amp tubes.

We're speaking about a shitty cheap sheet metal grid with a production value of 15 euros for each and another 10 euros for the powder coating

So now, why SBlue thought, that there must be a metal grid and what is missing:

I had previously built a British Purist for a customer in Germany who does a lot of touring with the amp and was afraid that a roadie with a microphone stand or similar might accidentally smash his power amp tubes when setting up or dismantling the stage and asked me to to have a protective grille made for him and to attach it to the back of his amp for an extra fee.

I then had two sets of brackets and two protective grilles made - and then wanted to equip also SBlue's ampwith them as well.

So I had mounted the mounting brackets in his head shell, but then I couldn't find the second protective grille before shipping the amp to SBlue - so I sent his amp to him with the mounting brackets already installed, but without the rear protective grille.

SBlue complained about the lack of the protective grille - and while it's not standard equipment with the amp, I agreed to have one made for him and send it to him later.

Then there were problems at my metal workshop - at first they had forgotten to make the part for a long time. And then they had made such parts, but unfortunately with the wrong dimensions.

Time passed while SBlue got impatient and then angry - and finally he insulted me badly via WhatsApp.

That's the mistake you must never do to me!

I was willing to send him such a part and had promised to do so, even though the part is not part of the standard equipment of the amp - and what the previous customer had paid me extra for. I didn't want any extra reimbursement from SBlue and would even have paid the 40 euros to have it shipped to him out of my own pocket.

After SBlue had badly insulted me, my will to deliver something to him dropped sharply, dropped to zero, so to speak. Nevertheless I offered to apologize to me for his mistake in his choice of words, after which I would send him the protective grille.

But apparently he was too proud or too arrogant to apologize. Nothing came ?‍

And now in hindsight, because of a piece of shit worth a maximum of 25 euros, which is not even part of the standard equipment of his amp, but I would have given him as a treat... that's the only reason he's making such a fuss about it...

... and publicly calls me a liar and a thief - as thanks for my goodwill, which he destroyed with his insult.

Oh yes, there seem to be a few more members on this board who desperately need a good psychotherapist or even a good psychiatrist and good medication.

Hallelujah!

You damaged your reputation because of a 25 Euro piece of shit!
And after two years waiting for the panel, after all your lying excuses, blaming everyone else for it, i told you to shove that "piece of shit" up your lying thief ass.
No wonder even Dumble warned me about you. You talk a lot about Fortin stealing your circuits... you forgot to mention in public that you stole Dumbles circuit, when you worked for Kitty Hawk.
But hey, don't say that out loud. Otherwise people will think you're not honest, right?
Sells a 7K amp but have to steal a 25 euro part of it. No wonder you sell people tubes and don't send them... or took someones money and didn't refund his family after his death.
You fucking thief piece of shit!!!
Scum.

 

[Disfigured]

Ok, to finally clear things up:

1-the back panel on your DINO 962 was mounted, not missing
2-the back panel of your British Purist you claimed was missing

Ok there was none - BUT...
... have you ever seen a photo of a British Purist (or a photo of a Rock Wizard) anywhere in the web - before AND after you've placed your order for the British Purist? Anywhere only one single photo in the web, where a British Purist or a Rock Wizard was supplied with a back panel?

NO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOT ONLY ONE !!!

And why? Because the head shells of the BP and the RW never have been planned to get a back panel at all

To clear it up for the public - while we are speaking here about a "back panel", then this does not mean the rear panel on the chassis, not what the controls etc. are labeled on, but a protective grille behind the power amp tubes.

We're speaking about a shitty cheap sheet metal grid with a production value of 15 euros for each and another 10 euros for the powder coating

So now, why SBlue thought, that there must be a metal grid and what is missing:

I had previously built a British Purist for a customer in Germany who does a lot of touring with the amp and was afraid that a roadie with a microphone stand or similar might accidentally smash his power amp tubes when setting up or dismantling the stage and asked me to have a protective grille made for him and to attach it to the back of his amp for an extra fee.

I then had two sets of brackets and two protective grilles made - and then wanted to equip also SBlue's amp with them as well.

So I had mounted the mounting brackets in his head shell, but then I couldn't find the second protective grille before shipping the amp to SBlue - so I sent his amp to him with the mounting brackets already installed, but without the rear protective grille.

SBlue complained about the lack of the protective grille - and while it's not standard equipment with the amp, I agreed to have one made for him and send it to him later.

Then there were problems at my metal workshop - at first they had forgotten to make the part for a long time. And then they had made such parts, but unfortunately with the wrong dimensions.

Time passed while SBlue got impatient and then angry - and finally he insulted me badly via WhatsApp.

That's the mistake you must never do to me!

I was willing to send him such a part and had promised to do so, even though the part is not part of the standard equipment of the amp - and what the previous customer had paid me extra for. I didn't want any extra reimbursement from SBlue and would even have paid the 40 euros to have it shipped to him out of my own pocket.

After SBlue had badly insulted me, my will to deliver something to him dropped sharply, dropped to zero, so to speak. Nevertheless I offered to apologize to me for his mistake in his choice of words, after which I would send him the protective grille.

But apparently he was too proud or too arrogant to apologize. Nothing came ?‍

And now in hindsight, because of a piece of shit worth a maximum of 25 euros, which is not even part of the standard equipment of his amp, but I would have given him as a treat... that's the only reason he's making such a fuss about it...

... and publicly calls me a liar and a thief - as thanks for my goodwill, which he destroyed with his insult.

Oh yes, there seem to be a few more members on this board who desperately need a good psychotherapist or even a good psychiatrist and good medication.

Hallelujah!

Self awareness is a trait you clearly don’t possess...

But carry on, all the more fuel for us when the time comes...

 

[Disfigured]

And for the record, I don’t know Sblue, but I’m sure you’ll eventually loop us all together as some sort of circuit stealing cabal...

 

[saxxamafone]

Ok, to finally clear things up:

1-the back panel on your DINO 962 was mounted, not missing
2-the back panel of your British Purist you claimed was missing

Ok there was none - BUT...
... have you ever seen a photo of a British Purist (or a photo of a Rock Wizard) anywhere in the web - before AND after you've placed your order for the British Purist? Anywhere only one single photo in the web, where a British Purist or a Rock Wizard was supplied with a back panel?

NO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOT ONLY ONE !!!

And why? Because the head shells of the BP and the RW never have been planned to get a back panel at all

To clear it up for the public - while we are speaking here about a "back panel", then this does not mean the rear panel on the chassis, not what the controls etc. are labeled on, but a protective grille behind the power amp tubes.

We're speaking about a shitty cheap sheet metal grid with a production value of 15 euros for each and another 10 euros for the powder coating

So now, why SBlue thought, that there must be a metal grid and what is missing:

I had previously built a British Purist for a customer in Germany who does a lot of touring with the amp and was afraid that a roadie with a microphone stand or similar might accidentally smash his power amp tubes when setting up or dismantling the stage and asked me to have a protective grille made for him and to attach it to the back of his amp for an extra fee.

I then had two sets of brackets and two protective grilles made - and then wanted to equip also SBlue's amp with them as well.

So I had mounted the mounting brackets in his head shell, but then I couldn't find the second protective grille before shipping the amp to SBlue - so I sent his amp to him with the mounting brackets already installed, but without the rear protective grille.

SBlue complained about the lack of the protective grille - and while it's not standard equipment with the amp, I agreed to have one made for him and send it to him later.

Then there were problems at my metal workshop - at first they had forgotten to make the part for a long time. And then they had made such parts, but unfortunately with the wrong dimensions.

Time passed while SBlue got impatient and then angry - and finally he insulted me badly via WhatsApp.

That's the mistake you must never do to me!

I was willing to send him such a part and had promised to do so, even though the part is not part of the standard equipment of the amp - and what the previous customer had paid me extra for. I didn't want any extra reimbursement from SBlue and would even have paid the 40 euros to have it shipped to him out of my own pocket.

After SBlue had badly insulted me, my will to deliver something to him dropped sharply, dropped to zero, so to speak. Nevertheless I offered to apologize to me for his mistake in his choice of words, after which I would send him the protective grille.

But apparently he was too proud or too arrogant to apologize. Nothing came ?‍

And now in hindsight, because of a piece of shit worth a maximum of 25 euros, which is not even part of the standard equipment of his amp, but I would have given him as a treat... that's the only reason he's making such a fuss about it...

... and publicly calls me a liar and a thief - as thanks for my goodwill, which he destroyed with his insult.

Oh yes, there seem to be a few more members on this board who desperately need a good psychotherapist or even a good psychiatrist and good medication.

Hallelujah!

Regardless who's right and who's wrong... losing your cool, fighting and threatening customers on the internet isn't a good look for any business

 

[novosibir]

You damaged your reputation because of a 25 Euro piece of shit!
And after two years waiting for the panel, after all your lying excuses, blaming everyone else for it, i told you to shove that "piece of shit" up your lying thief ass.
(...)
Sells a 7K amp but have to steal a 25 euro part of it.

You fucking thief piece of shit!!!
Scum.

Once again - WHAT HAVE I STOLEN FROM YOU ???

I intended to give you something to go with it.

However, by your ugly insult via WhatsApp you have revealed that you are not worth it

 

[SBlue]

Ok, to finally clear things up:

1-the back panel on your DINO 962 was mounted, not missing
2-the back panel of your British Purist you claimed was missing

Ok there was none - BUT...
... have you ever seen a photo of a British Purist (or a photo of a Rock Wizard) anywhere in the web - before AND after you've placed your order for the British Purist? Anywhere only one single photo in the web, where a British Purist or a Rock Wizard was supplied with a back panel?

NO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN NOT ONLY ONE !!!

And why? Because the head shells of the BP and the RW never have been planned to get a back panel at all

To clear it up for the public - while we are speaking here about a "back panel", then this does not mean the rear panel on the chassis, not what the controls etc. are labeled on, but a protective grille behind the power amp tubes.

We're speaking about a shitty cheap sheet metal grid with a production value of 15 euros for each and another 10 euros for the powder coating

So now, why SBlue thought, that there must be a metal grid and what is missing:

I had previously built a British Purist for a customer in Germany who does a lot of touring with the amp and was afraid that a roadie with a microphone stand or similar might accidentally smash his power amp tubes when setting up or dismantling the stage and asked me to have a protective grille made for him and to attach it to the back of his amp for an extra fee.

I then had two sets of brackets and two protective grilles made - and then wanted to equip also SBlue's amp with them as well.

So I had mounted the mounting brackets in his head shell, but then I couldn't find the second protective grille before shipping the amp to SBlue - so I sent his amp to him with the mounting brackets already installed, but without the rear protective grille.

SBlue complained about the lack of the protective grille - and while it's not standard equipment with the amp, I agreed to have one made for him and send it to him later.

Then there were problems at my metal workshop - at first they had forgotten to make the part for a long time. And then they had made such parts, but unfortunately with the wrong dimensions.

Time passed while SBlue got impatient and then angry - and finally he insulted me badly via WhatsApp.

That's the mistake you must never do to me!

I was willing to send him such a part and had promised to do so, even though the part is not part of the standard equipment of the amp - and what the previous customer had paid me extra for. I didn't want any extra reimbursement from SBlue and would even have paid the 40 euros to have it shipped to him out of my own pocket.

After SBlue had badly insulted me, my will to deliver something to him dropped sharply, dropped to zero, so to speak. Nevertheless I offered to apologize to me for his mistake in his choice of words, after which I would send him the protective grille.

But apparently he was too proud or too arrogant to apologize. Nothing came ?‍

And now in hindsight, because of a piece of shit worth a maximum of 25 euros, which is not even part of the standard equipment of his amp, but I would have given him as a treat... that's the only reason he's making such a fuss about it...

... and publicly calls me a liar and a thief - as thanks for my goodwill, which he destroyed with his insult.

Oh yes, there seem to be a few more members on this board who desperately need a good psychotherapist or even a good psychiatrist and good medication.

Hallelujah!

You sent me this email on 02/12/2020:

""Good morning Tiago,

just came to mind, that I still haven't sent you the export invoice,
which is attached to the shipment.
For any means you should have it, hence find it attached.

The BP usually has a real grill for protecting output tubes, but as
small, that you can get by the character switches on the rear chassis edge.
Unfortunately I didn't have one remaining anymore, or simply didn't find
it in my basement due to time hurry at the day of shipping.
I've already mounted the holders of this rear grill, the mounting screws
are screwed in - and the grill I'll send you after I've found it or
after I've had made new ones. So please be careful in the meantime,
because you know how roadies are doing at live event.

And now... puh man, I'm already so much excited :-D
Watching the clock says just still 7 hours from writing this email, then
you'd get handed the amp.
UPS tracking says, that the parcel already has left Louisville, KY

Speak to you soon again.
Larry""

Lying sack of shit.

 

[thegame]

 

[novosibir]

No wonder even Dumble warned me about you. You talk a lot about Fortin stealing your circuits... you forgot to mention in public that you stole Dumbles circuit, when you worked for Kitty Hawk.
But hey, don't say that out loud. Otherwise people will think you're not honest, right?

For now, keep it low with your malicious insinuations based on defiant frustration.

The Dumble track at Kitty Hawk, so Junior, M1 and M3 was there before my time. I had nothing to do with these amp designs.

My babies at Kitty Hawk were the Testarossa preamp, the quad preamp and the stereo power amp.

Unfortunately, my 'Penthawk' never made it to series production due to a lack of funds in this company.

 

[SBlue]

@novosibir
I already got messages saying that what you really meant with:

"Members Disfigured, thegame and SBlue now on my 'persona non grata' list"

was:

"More members I've scammed"