Fortin Grind... useless w/Marshall types?

[NaturalBornBoy]

There's a Grinds Rev 2 in the works.

And what will this revision bring to the table??

IIRC, some capacitor changes and better components.

Do you have any idea how these changes will affect the performance of the pedal?? What shortcomings are being addressed here?

I'm afraid I have no idea. I don't even use the Grind.

I just saw an update by Mike on his FB page.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

There's a Grinds Rev 2 in the works.

And what will this revision bring to the table??

It will make the original Grind "uber-unattainable" and drive up used prices... other than that... not much.

To the op... I don't see the benefit of the Grind with any Marshall. A graphic EQ would help shape your tone better with the QR.

 

[Starman22]

It does seem (by YouTube demos) that the Grind works extremely well with the 2255 Jubilee circuit.

 

[mchn13]

It does seem (by YouTube demos) that the Grind works extremely well with the 2255 Jubilee circuit.

Oh that's Jason. He makes everything sound brutal. His right hand is a chug machine. Also the reason I tried one myself.

 

[mniel8195]

For already tight amps i like the original koko boost. I will be buying the new Friedman Boost when that comes out.

 

[JerEvil]

For already tight amps i like the original koko boost. I will be buying the new Friedman Boost when that comes out.

I am grabbing one of those new Friedman boosts as well!

 

[WizardSouth-JP]

It was ok with this Splawn I owned. But it did cut a lot of the lows...was like a buzzsaw. I guess in conjunction with an EQ pedal it would work for Marshally amps.

 

[RedB4Black]

I've been through a ton of boost pedals including the grind. I've come to the conclusion that a Maxon OD808 works about as good as anything and sounds great with everything.

 

[xXDaveyJonesXx]

There's a Grinds Rev 2 in the works.

And what will this revision bring to the table??

IIRC, some capacitor changes and better components.

Do you have any idea how these changes will affect the performance of the pedal?? What shortcomings are being addressed here?

Changes addressed from his FB:

"Same circuit everyone. Mainly addresses some things from feedback from all the customers. I made the DC inlet hole larger. Instead of using a 12vdc power supply to achieve max input headroom for those 8 string players with active pickups, I changed it to operate at 9vdc for maximum headroom. Changed the way the foot switch mounts to the PCB. Upgraded the caps and resistors while these changes were happening. Overall, I feel it is an improvement over the 1st version. After all, this is what engineering is all about, building on and making existing technology better. Cheers!"

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Sort of why I just boost my jcm800 with a bunch of diff boosts.. seems to me most of the time i have dialed back higher gainers and tightened with a boost so why not just crank the vol or gain knob on a boost to push the lower gainer into high gain country. I am always tempted though but generally speaking, I would hope a 4k Friedman could do pedal boost tightness without a boost. It is what it is though.

 

[hammered]

I've been through a ton of boost pedals including the grind. I've come to the conclusion that a Maxon OD808 works about as good as anything and sounds great with everything.

I was boosting my Splawn with the OD808 set as a clean boost yesterday. Along with the Seymour Duncan 805 I thinks it`s one of the best straight out of the box

 

[Oblivion DC]

There's a Grinds Rev 2 in the works.

And what will this revision bring to the table??

IIRC, some capacitor changes and better components.

Do you have any idea how these changes will affect the performance of the pedal?? What shortcomings are being addressed here?

Changes addressed from his FB:

"Same circuit everyone. Mainly addresses some things from feedback from all the customers. I made the DC inlet hole larger. Instead of using a 12vdc power supply to achieve max input headroom for those 8 string players with active pickups, I changed it to operate at 9vdc for maximum headroom. Changed the way the foot switch mounts to the PCB. Upgraded the caps and resistors while these changes were happening. Overall, I feel it is an improvement over the 1st version. After all, this is what engineering is all about, building on and making existing technology better. Cheers!"

Much obliged!! Might have to get another one soon!

 

[bubbastain]

It was ok with this Splawn I owned. But it did cut a lot of the lows...was like a buzzsaw. I guess in conjunction with an EQ pedal it would work for Marshally amps.

I don't know what it sounded like in the room, but that clip sounds sick man.

 

[mchn13]

It was ok with this Splawn I owned. But it did cut a lot of the lows...was like a buzzsaw. I guess in conjunction with an EQ pedal it would work for Marshally amps.

I don't know what it sounded like in the room, but that clip sounds sick man.

True. That sounded mean as hell.

 

[RockyStar]

It does seem (by YouTube demos) that the Grind works extremely well with the 2255 Jubilee circuit.

Oh that's Jason. He makes everything sound brutal. His right hand is a chug machine. Also the reason I tried one myself.

Since when is a persons picking hand responsible for the amps sound and pedals sound? The amp and pedal either do something favorable to what you are desiring or they don't.

 

[Oblivion DC]

It does seem (by YouTube demos) that the Grind works extremely well with the 2255 Jubilee circuit.

Oh that's Jason. He makes everything sound brutal. His right hand is a chug machine. Also the reason I tried one myself.

Since when is a persons picking hand responsible for the amps sound and pedals sound? The amp and pedal either do something favorable to what you are desiring or they don't.

I used to have the same opinion and then one night I went to hang with some guitar folks I knew. One of the guys had a jcm 800kk head and as he was playing it I thought something must be wrong with his amp cause it sounded weak and plinky. Really bad. I asked later on if I could mess with it and when
I started playing it the most crushing sound imagineable came out of it. How someone hits the strings really does make a difference. That guy stopped playing guitar and later picked up a bass, and nothing of value was lost.

 

[RockyStar]

It does seem (by YouTube demos) that the Grind works extremely well with the 2255 Jubilee circuit.

Oh that's Jason. He makes everything sound brutal. His right hand is a chug machine. Also the reason I tried one myself.

Since when is a persons picking hand responsible for the amps sound and pedals sound? The amp and pedal either do something favorable to what you are desiring or they don't.

I used to have the same opinion and then one night I went to hang with some guitar folks I knew. One of the guys had a jcm 800kk head and as he was playing it I thought something must be wrong with his amp cause it sounded weak and plinky. Really bad. I asked later on if I could mess with it and when
I started playing it the most crushing sound imagineable came out of it. How someone hits the strings really does make a difference. That guy stopped playing guitar and later picked up a bass, and nothing of value was lost.

I get that there can be some difference but no way in hell is that clip discussed only due to the guy with the magic right hand. You can hear enough in that clip that it will either work for you or it won't. I didn't hear any magic trickery or voodoo happening to make it sound out of the ordinary and be a complete 180 from his playing to somebody else playing.

 

[Starman22]

So yeah it sounds mean thru a Jube...

 

[mchn13]

It does seem (by YouTube demos) that the Grind works extremely well with the 2255 Jubilee circuit.

Oh that's Jason. He makes everything sound brutal. His right hand is a chug machine. Also the reason I tried one myself.

Since when is a persons picking hand responsible for the amps sound and pedals sound? The amp and pedal either do something favorable to what you are desiring or they don't.

I used to have the same opinion and then one night I went to hang with some guitar folks I knew. One of the guys had a jcm 800kk head and as he was playing it I thought something must be wrong with his amp cause it sounded weak and plinky. Really bad. I asked later on if I could mess with it and when
I started playing it the most crushing sound imagineable came out of it. How someone hits the strings really does make a difference. That guy stopped playing guitar and later picked up a bass, and nothing of value was lost.

I get that there can be some difference but no way in hell is that clip discussed only due to the guy with the magic right hand. You can hear enough in that clip that it will either work for you or it won't. I didn't hear any magic trickery or voodoo happening to make it sound out of the ordinary and be a complete 180 from his playing to somebody else playing.

I was kidding a little. I didn't mean it would be a 180 or anything like that, just that he knows how to record, and has a solid right hand. I liked the pedal when I had it, it was just limited to "that" sound, thus not useful to me. If you listen to the clips he has the amp dialed in fairly dark to work with the pedal, and you can hear it when he turns it off. I didn't mean to slight anyone, just Jason has a crushing right hand and could probably make a blues deluxe and a hot pedal sound the same. I personally hated it with my marshalls, and loved it through my vht and recto, but it made it impossible to have an in between crunch sound rat that point.

 

[Beyond Black]

Mike Fortin is a genius, but I'm not a big fan of the Grind pedal. For palm muting it's awesome. It's tight and punchy as fuck. For chords, I think it sounds rather thin and string-y. Like there's too much string separation going on. It definitely helps to tighten really muddy/flubby amps.