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Gainzilla":dozhvbuc said:LMAO!!!! this thing is still going?!?!?!?!?
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Gainzilla":dozhvbuc said:LMAO!!!! this thing is still going?!?!?!?!?
jcj":397lc191 said:Gainzilla":397lc191 said:LMAO!!!! this thing is still going?!?!?!?!?
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Shiny_Surface":1ll0285h said:So this is the guy that has caused so much tension over on that forum?
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Hot!Shiny_Surface":32c9jswo said:So this is the guy that has caused so much tension over on that forum?
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There were more than two partners who bought Frazier from Jack's estate. I met your dad, BTW. He and the other interrim owners made a good decision to get out of the loudspeaker business.marvcus":2157g93k said:That said, my father DID buy Frazier speakers in the mid 80s and the building on Valley View Lane in Farmers Branch - my old 'hood - that it sat in. Who do you think
the "previous owners" who sold it to the Arkansas company were? My dad, Jon Young, and his business partner.
No. I worked "in the building on Valley View Lane" - from May - November 1986 - while Sound-Craft Systems built a new production facility in Arkansas and hired new production workers to make the speakers. Production was begun in Arkansas prior to completing the move from Dallas. I know, because I was in charge of the process. Maybe your dad didn't share that with you, but that's how it happened.Did they go out of business?
Nope. Production was relocated seamlessly.Production was certainly halted
There's apparently quite a lot you don't recall. Perhaps you'd better leave off with the attempts to recall things you weren't present to experience. I was actually present for all this, and we both know you weren't there. How old were you at the time?I don't recall any Frazier employees working for my dad,
I've got some old swim team photos you might enjoy.Randy Van Sykes":7njs1ahf said:Any pics of him topless with lots of suntan oil on?
Prove what? That I worked for Frazier beginning in 1986? It's not a trade secret, nor is it something I ever need to "prove." That would be like saving your receipt when you buy a doughnut.marvcus":1rvqdz0f said:OK, hot shot. Prove it.
Man With Gas":11znytxz said:My .02 cents for all of this.
It's his forum and his moderators (that also make appearances or are moderators on other forums) that creates most of the Fractal shit storm. A clear point of this is Scott Peterson over at TGP spamming all day long about Fractal. Albiet he tries to downplay it but it's as obvious as the nose on your face. I don't see a single soul over on TGP spamming product like he does almost every day and I'm sure if they did it would be stopped very quickly. Almost every post about an AXE FX has SP involved. How can you be a beta tester, Fractal moderator and remain objective with no bias and have no conflict of interest hanging over you whilst moderating another very well known site. It's a joke and a poor one.
Another glaring example of the hypocrisy, audacity and disrespect of its moderators - Scott Peterson comes onto this forum in this post to mention another forum (clearly Fractal's forum) and sounds off at this forum's members yet on TGP where he is a moderator this type of post isn't allowed. I haven't checked Fractal's site but I wouldn't be surprised if it's allowed there either.
Yes, this is my take on it using my words based on my experience.
Jay Mitchell":ns5mnxcq said:Prove what? That I worked for Frazier beginning in 1986? It's not a trade secret, nor is it something I ever need to "prove." That would be like saving your receipt when you buy a doughnut.marvcus":ns5mnxcq said:OK, hot shot. Prove it.
If you're that interested, you could look in back issues of trade magazines - try Sound & Video Contractor or Sound and Communications - for ads and press releases about my coming on board and the move to Arkansas. They may be out there somewhere. Why don't you share with us how old you were at the time, and let the folks here decide whether your memory of the events is credible? Or you could come by the office some day - we've been back in Dallas for 13 years now - and I'll show you some of my archival information.
Bob Savage":2sy6qui6 said:This is a very interesting thread. What's the topic?
Scott Peterson":234dp28t said:Man With Gas":234dp28t said:My .02 cents for all of this.
It's his forum and his moderators (that also make appearances or are moderators on other forums) that creates most of the Fractal shit storm. A clear point of this is Scott Peterson over at TGP spamming all day long about Fractal. Albiet he tries to downplay it but it's as obvious as the nose on your face. I don't see a single soul over on TGP spamming product like he does almost every day and I'm sure if they did it would be stopped very quickly. Almost every post about an AXE FX has SP involved. How can you be a beta tester, Fractal moderator and remain objective with no bias and have no conflict of interest hanging over you whilst moderating another very well known site. It's a joke and a poor one.
Another glaring example of the hypocrisy, audacity and disrespect of its moderators - Scott Peterson comes onto this forum in this post to mention another forum (clearly Fractal's forum) and sounds off at this forum's members yet on TGP where he is a moderator this type of post isn't allowed. I haven't checked Fractal's site but I wouldn't be surprised if it's allowed there either.
Yes, this is my take on it using my words based on my experience.
I've been a member of this forum far longer than you.
I am co-owner of TGP; am clearly open with my status as it goes with Fractal and forthcoming with disclosure when i do post. I am not selling anything, nor am I 'spamming'. Perhaps you should explain your definition of that to me, because it's not how it goes with me.
This isn't TGP; the rules here are different and I talk squarely and plainly no matter what forum. If you don't agree with me, or like me, so be it. I've no issue with that, nor with being corrected, or wrong. But in this case, you are talking BS.
I don't represent Fractal in any way. I don't 'downplay' anything. I only post about what I know and only from first hand experience. I don't start posts/threads talking shit about people I don't know.
Do what you do; believe what you must. But don't expect me to to just take your shit. Be a big boy and use your real name and give us full disclosure of who you are and your affiliations and credentials to spout off in the manner you do. Everyone's a critic on the Internet, nothing new. But at least back it up with your real name and context of why your opinion is worth anything.
Bob Savage":bg44bgrh said:This is a very interesting thread. What's the topic?