Fryette Pittbull Ultralead II

[RedB4Black]

I'm only seeing about five people on the internet that was interested in actually buying one say they are not buying this version. A few dozen that are buying it immediately.

Count me as one of those 5. I’m disappointed the ULII isn’t what I was hoping for. If it was a real amp head, I’d already have it on order.

Fear not though, I did the next best thing yesterday…. Bought a 2/90/2 and the Synergy UL module.

 

[tvegas99]

I'd like to think I might be one of the five

I get a lot of mileage out of my GPDI/IR plus a Power Station... the PU2 has to offer up something I can't get with that setup, if it does then I won't be happy about the 4k, because that is a lot of money for an amp... but I think I can make it happen if I really feel it's worth it

 

[tvegas99]

One thing to add, I really wish it was just being sold as a preamp, if the form factor was similar to the Soldano X88IR, I think they'd sell a lot more units!!!

 

[stephen sawall]

@stephen sawall that's amazing, those numbers don't really reflect a great business model ... I know you are a big Fryette fan, curious where you stand on the latest PU2 developments??

I generally don't make judgments based on clips. We don't even have clips yet.

I'm okay with the format. if it sounds and feels right in the room is going to be the biggest factor.

I was pretty set on buying one to check till silver crashed on Friday.

I think what he has done is killer in concept.
I have two MIDI rigs I have been meaning to rebuild. This would fit in that. Certainly not what everyone expected.

 

[stephen sawall]

Count me as one of those 5. I’m disappointed the ULII isn’t what I was hoping for. If it was a real amp head, I’d already have it on order.

Fear not though, I did the next best thing yesterday…. Bought a 2/90/2 and the Synergy UL module.

Definitely included you Matt. I'm still on the fence about it.

Supposedly they going to release the specs and details soon.

 

[stephen sawall]

One thing to add, I really wish it was just being sold as a preamp, if the form factor was similar to the Soldano X88IR, I think they'd sell a lot more units!!!

I think he has mentioned doing a preamp a few times. It might happen.

 

[DanTravis62]

One thing to add, I really wish it was just being sold as a preamp, if the form factor was similar to the Soldano X88IR, I think they'd sell a lot more units!!!

See, I told you guys, I'm not the only one who thought this

 

[Greazygeo]

One thing to add, I really wish it was just being sold as a preamp, if the form factor was similar to the Soldano X88IR, I think they'd sell a lot more units!!!

You can turn off the power amp.

If it sounds good, for me someone that gigs, this will be perfect. Preamp only wpuld just mean I have to buy a power amp…now that two space rack just grew toabout a 6 space. Been there done that…

 

[espquade]

I think he has mentioned doing a preamp a few times. It might happen.

Probably in the next 10 years or so that will come out.

 

[stephen sawall]

Probably in the next 10 years or so that will come out.

The GPDI-IR is supposed to be a evolution of the GP-3. So maybe it is already done.

I think people want a three channel version.

 

[Clay K]

Probably in the next 10 years or so that will come out.

they did make a preamp

 

[tvegas99]

 

[thegame]

Are you ready to rock, Detroit?
Yeeeeaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!!! x 10 000
Ok we will, as soon as I remember which submenu my fucking standby switch is in!!!

 

[midnightlaundry]

He revealed it, so I'm sure it will be available soon. I'm waiting for the next Malcontents for a official question and answer..
BTW, it's MIDI if U forgot.. Stored Presets for the win..

 

[DanTravis62]

You can turn off the power amp.

If it sounds good, for me someone that gigs, this will be perfect. Preamp only wpuld just mean I have to buy a power amp…now that two space rack just grew toabout a 6 space. Been there done that…

Yeah I don't think anyone is going to spend 4 grand and use 1/4 of the amps features

 

[Greazygeo]

Yeah I don't think anyone is going to spend 4 grand and use 1/4 of the amps features

Turning off the power amp is 3/4’s of the amp’s features?

 

[DanTravis62]

Turning off the power amp is 3/4’s of the amp’s features?

That's kind of the point, turning off the power amp is only like 10% of the features - midi programmability, screen/menu diving, IRs, etc

 

[DanTravis62]

@Greazygeo like i think you're missing what my point is - 90% of the people that would be interested in a pittbull just wants the ultra lead high gain sounds and not much else - you're paying a massive premium for menu diving on a digital screen, not to mention cramming into a 2RU space with new trannies and a whole bunch of unproven digital tech that is going to make it impossible to service and make its product lifetime exponentially shorter.

The massive majority of this product's target audience would prefer:

1. If it is going to be 4k, an actual full size amp that takes the classic UL and makes it meaner, badder, more aggressive, more gut-punchy, etc (kind of like the uberschall vs the uber ultra) or...

2. If it has to be a small form factor rack unit (because it helps stevey show off his CrAzY EnGinEeRiNG SkILlZ) would rather have a more simple pittbull rack preamp with an analog GEQ or something without all the bells, whistles, and AIDS - and most importantly, have it cost a whole lot less than 4k. Similar to how the Power station is competitively priced with similar units. Maybe 1500-2000$ or something for a really nice analog preamp.

No one so far in the thread (especially me) has said "it's going to sound bad." Not one.

What I (and a whole bunch of other people) are saying is this is a puzzling decision business wise, because the product is a hammer in search of a nail. Even in the wild west of guitar gear, RT, there are very few people who this is "for" - maybe you, steven sawall, kelly maybe? Out of hundreds of people who all fucking love the tones of the Pittbull and would love to add one to the stable? And how many of you guys are actually going to buy one?

That's not a winning business decision.

 

[hellzington]

@Greazygeo like i think you're missing what my point is - 90% of the people that would be interested in a pittbull just wants the ultra lead high gain sounds and not much else - you're paying a massive premium for menu diving on a digital screen, not to mention cramming into a 2RU space with new trannies and a whole bunch of unproven digital tech that is going to make it impossible to service and make its product lifetime exponentially shorter.

The massive majority of this product's target audience would prefer:

1. If it is going to be 4k, an actual full size amp that takes the classic UL and makes it meaner, badder, more aggressive, more gut-punchy, etc (kind of like the uberschall vs the uber ultra) or...

2. If it has to be a small form factor rack unit (because it helps stevey show off his CrAzY EnGinEeRiNG SkILlZ) would rather have a more simple pittbull rack preamp with an analog GEQ or something without all the bells, whistles, and AIDS - and most importantly, have it cost a whole lot less than 4k. Similar to how the Power station is competitively priced with similar units. Maybe 1500-2000$ or something for a really nice analog preamp.

No one so far in the thread (especially me) has said "it's going to sound bad." Not one.

What I (and a whole bunch of other people) are saying is this is a puzzling decision business wise, because the product is a hammer in search of a nail. Even in the wild west of guitar gear, RT, there are very few people who this is "for" - maybe you, steven sawall, kelly maybe? Out of hundreds of people who all fucking love the tones of the Pittbull and would love to add one to the stable? And how many of you guys are actually going to buy one?

That's not a winning business decision.

I am in the middle of making a YT video with this exact analysis

 

[7704A]

Some interesting new info.

• It sounds like he was talking about a true-to-spec original re-release costing 6-7k. Said it'd be at least 5k, probably closer to 6-7k to do the amp with the same component quality and same execution, with some allusions to regulatory hurdles.
• Said that if the DSP goes poof at a gig you can bypass it to go straight from pre-amp to power amp.
• The ability to mix power tubes is so you can cover both CLX and Ultralead territory.
• He was specifically trying to make a tube amp that competes with the advantages of modelers.
• The power supply is super stiff now and doesn't sag like a linear one would, so he put the GPDI(/GP3)'s sag circuit in there to get that behavior.
• The output transformer was made shorter, but longer.