Fryette Pittbull Ultralead II

[OldGtrGuy]

March? Like next month? No way.

Radio shack restocks end of February

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

In all honesty this amp is becoming more appealing to me each day. Referencing the full retard post a few pages back the more I play the more I want to go full tard and get a cortex and frfr.

The lightweight thing is appealing but the fact that it is rackmount is ehhh. Then I want a power conditioner, tuner, pro rack g and a case. Might as well be a full weight tube amp at that point.

Really just want to hear the damn thing like everyone else probably does.

I thought about a fm3 and frfr, but i heard it is disappointing. No air moving. I hae been to a death metal band that used a Kemper, and through front of house, it fucking hit. Was just like an amp. But that would be an expensive setup.

Plus i do better with 50+watts, a 4x12, and 6 non confusing knobs

 

[OldGtrGuy]

I thought about a fm3 and frfr, but i heard it is disappointing. No air moving. I hae been to a death metal band that used a Kemper, and through front of house, it fucking hit. Was just like an amp. But that would be an expensive setup.

Plus i do better with 50+watts, a 4x12, and 6 non confusing knobs

All true but many low end death metal shows have a shit PA with Tommy chong running the board and you cant feel or hear shit regardless

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

All true but many low end death metal shows have a shit PA with Tommy chong running the board and you cant feel or hear shit regardless

The front of house at EMOs is fucking sick. Literally blows my pant legs around

 

[Eazy-ESP]

I think it's different for you American folk who have a history with the brand. Fryette is not well-known down under, and even though I've been an amp obsessive for decades I've never owned one.

We had a PS2A for a bit, but sold it after some issues.

You should at least try a Deliverance man. That is crazy with your wall you’ve never had a VHT/Fryette.

 

[mentoneman]

what’s weird is i talked to my friend who went to NAMM and said he played through the amp but very softly and the show was so noisy he really couldn’t comment on it…?

i can’t imagine SF releasing anything less that great sounding at this point, and kinda approach it like a mostly tube analog amp-like bare bones 3 channel triaxis which certainly did well.
plus i’ve always thought the predominantly digital axe fx would benefit from a tube hybrid integration.
so this is sorta the opposite; mostly tube analog with some digital elements. would love to hear in person.

…still hate cab IRs though…

 

[Eazy-ESP]

what’s weird is i talked to my friend who went to NAMM and said he played through the amp but very softly and the show was so noisy he really couldn’t comment on it…?

i can’t imagine SF releasing anything less that great sounding at this point, and kinda approach it like a mostly tube analog amp-like bare bones 3 channel triaxis which certainly did well.
plus i’ve always thought the predominantly digital axe fx would benefit from a tube hybrid integration.
so this is sorta the opposite; mostly tube analog with some digital elements. would love to hear in person.

…still hate cab IRs though…

He’s probably getting it confused with the VHT Hellhound. Easy mistake to make.

 

[7704A]

March? Like next month? No way.

Perhaps, though over on the Fryette forums they appear to be making arrangements to provide units to bands starting tours in March.

 

[stephen sawall]

No shit?! That is fucking hilarious.

@stephen sawall you have to tell us the real story of why he sold the vht name in the first place

 

[ZEN Amps]

You should at least try a Deliverance man. That is crazy with your wall you’ve never had a VHT/Fryette.

I've played a bunch over the years, but none of them dazzled me enough to hand over the cash.

I had a Deliverance Synergy module for a bit, that was kinda cool but I moved away from those little suckers after reminding myself for the fifth time that the power section is supremely important!

 

[Eazy-ESP]

I've played a bunch over the years, but none of them dazzled me enough to hand over the cash.

I had a Deliverance Synergy module for a bit, that was kinda cool but I moved away from those little suckers after reminding myself for the fifth time that the power section is supremely important!

I've got an OG D120 head and it is incredible. Right amount of familiarity to feel good and uniqueness to be interesting to me at the same time.

 

[stephen sawall]

It's all about the power amp.

 

[nightlight]

I'm amused by the suggestion that "resale value of a product" dictates a purchase decision.

Why would you buy something with the intention of reselling, unless it was a Picasso or something? Have you seen some of the prices for old digital gear, like those Caswells?

I've owned a few pieces of VHT/Fryette gear, and they sound amazing. Take the Sig:X, for example. There's a great John Browne video where he raves about it. The cleans are to die for, and the rhythm and lead channels are excellent. The Deliverance is a model in the Axe FXIII because of how good it sounds.

On the form factor, I quite like it. Rack this up in a rolling case with a power conditioner and an Axe FXIII and it's far easier to move than an amp head by itself.

I personally prefer analog over digital sounds, except when it comes to carting it around. Really good to get a consistent sound night after night as well, your sound guy can set and forget. Rig setup and tear down takes less time too. I'm no pro, but these things matter.

Also, let's not confuse this with a digital device. It has some digital parts, and I personally would have preferred a graphical EQ that was hardware.

But what does that open up? You can have an independent graphical EQ for independent patches, unlike the older one where it was one setting or bust.

It's a trade-off, but we should also consider why a guy like Fryette would do it. It's not just a "oh let me make this digital". It definitely doesn't save money on the manufacturing. I'm guessing this is to enable more functions to be controlled.

 

[Holy-diver]

Yeah… this is retarded

 

[DanTravis62]

I'm amused by the suggestion that "resale value of a product" dictates a purchase decision.

That's hilarious man, have you heard of Gibson and Fender guitars? Do you think they are the number one and number two sellers of guitars because they are the best designed, best playing. and most functional?

 

[OldGtrGuy]

That's hilarious man, have you heard of Gibson and Fender guitars? Do you think they are the number one and number two sellers of guitars because they are the best designed, best playing. and most functional?

I couldn't tell you how many times I passed on a product because it was such a no name brand that id never be able to resell it.

 

[DanTravis62]

I couldn't tell you how many times I passed on a product because it was such a no name brand that id never be able to resell it.

Right? I thought that was a very common opinion to have in the guitar world, but maybe im crazy

That's part of why so much gear moves hands - especially a tube amp - it retains its value, used, because everyone knows it can be repaired and it can be maintained and if you do, it will last forever - unlike all of the digital stuff that ends up in the dumpster eventually, especially digital amps. That's why it's so difficult to find some of that stuff.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I'm amused by the suggestion that "resale value of a product" dictates a purchase decision.

Why would you buy something with the intention of reselling, unless it was a Picasso or something? Have you seen some of the prices for old digital gear, like those Caswells?

I understand what you are saying. I also don't really do this. I didn't communicate out my thought process. It isn't that I buy things for reselling. It is more of a value retention/pricepoint.

It is why i think the car market is crazy. You buy a car new and it depreciates the entire time you have it. You buy it used and it does the same thing, but you take less of a hit.

 

[nightlight]

That's hilarious man, have you heard of Gibson and Fender guitars? Do you think they are the number one and number two sellers of guitars because they are the best designed, best playing. and most functional?

It's a sound thing. Believe me, the guys who picked them up in the '60s didn't think, "In 40 years, I can hock this for much more." Indeed, the net is full of tales of guys who undersold their products and then kicked themselves when prices picked up! Myself included!

I couldn't tell you how many times I passed on a product because it was such a no name brand that id never be able to resell it.

At some point of time, everything is a no-name brand. Look at Dumbles. The early adopters didn't think of reselling. In fact, many of the original owners or their kin are not selling at any price point.

Being a kid out of India, my first guitar was a "Gibtone", which was hilariously enough a ripoff of a Fender Strat.

And, even funnier, I've never owned or played a "real" Fender or Gibson. Just third world issues, I guess.

But I sure am glad I got to try out a lot of stuff. I was one of the early adopters of the Kemper, and really loved the hell out of that thing until I moved on. It proved to be my gateway to real amps, however, after I traded it for a Mark V:25 and an EVH5150 along with a Suhr RL. Believe me, I knew nothing about those brands at the time. But I'm glad I took the plunge.

I understand what you are saying. I also don't really do this. I didn't communicate out my thought process. It isn't that I buy things for reselling. It is more of a value retention/pricepoint.

It is why i think the car market is crazy. You buy a car new and it depreciates the entire time you have it. You buy it used and it does the same thing, but you take less of a hit.

With cars, they say that the minute you drive out of the showroom, the price depreciates by 10%. Then, as each year passes, we depreciate it by 10% until the value is nil in real terms.

But like guitars, the value is dictated by the market. And in that regard, how is any of us to predict whether some major artist or artists pick the UL2 as their weapon of choice and the prices appreciate in the future.

In a way, I agree with everyone's viewpoint here. I don't think I'm right, and I don't think they're wrong.

Let's at least hear the damn thing, though! This is like one of those circlejerk YT videos where the influencer watches the video of a product and then starts shilling for it in anticipation of being sent one for free haha

 

[OldGtrGuy]

It's a sound thing. Believe me, the guys who picked them up in the '60s didn't think, "In 40 years, I can hock this for much more." Indeed, the net is full of tales of guys who undersold their products and then kicked themselves when prices picked up! Myself included!



At some point of time, everything is a no-name brand. Look at Dumbles. The early adopters didn't think of reselling. In fact, many of the original owners or their kin are not selling at any price point.

Being a kid out of India, my first guitar was a "Gibtone", which was hilariously enough a ripoff of a Fender Strat.

And, even funnier, I've never owned or played a "real" Fender or Gibson. Just third world issues, I guess.

But I sure am glad I got to try out a lot of stuff. I was one of the early adopters of the Kemper, and really loved the hell out of that thing until I moved on. It proved to be my gateway to real amps, however, after I traded it for a Mark V:25 and an EVH5150 along with a Suhr RL. Believe me, I knew nothing about those brands at the time. But I'm glad I took the plunge.




With cars, they say that the minute you drive out of the showroom, the price depreciates by 10%. Then, as each year passes, we depreciate it by 10% until the value is nil in real terms.

But like guitars, the value is dictated by the market. And in that regard, how is any of us to predict whether some major artist or artists pick the UL2 as their weapon of choice and the prices appreciate in the future.

In a way, I agree with everyone's viewpoint here. I don't think I'm right, and I don't think they're wrong.

Let's at least hear the damn thing, though! This is like one of those circlejerk YT videos where the influencer watches the video of a product and then starts shilling for it in anticipation of being sent one for free haha

The problem is everything sounds amazing online with the right production but a lot of them sound like shit.

Or for myself personally, im extremely picky about guitar necks and you cant really walk into a GC and play an unknown brand. So you buy it, it doesnt work then you're stuck with it or will take a major loss.

I have no intention on keeping anything i dont jive with but that's just me. At least with a well known brand you can resell without losing your ass too much.