Geert Wilders - Worry About Demographic Change, Not "Climate Change"

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From the Crusades to the Spanish Inquisition to the 'troubles' in Ireland (yes, I know that was more than religious based) to the Middle East (again) today - with many, many stops in between - I only mentioned something recent as one example. That's not cherry picking.

I don't think I'm intolerant. I have NO problem with you or your religion or with Muslims or Catholics (I was told I was baptized but I was too young to remember), or Wiccans or Buddhists. I find learning about religions interesting and I'm glad you shared a wee bit with me about yours. I was mistaken in thinking it was exclusively Eastern European and didn't know it had a strong following in the Americas.

My only point is this: I don't want to have anyone's religion forced upon me. A trite analogy, and forgive me for it's crudeness, would be second hand smoke. Puff all you want - but I don't want to breathe any of it thank you very much.
I dont think you understand how this works, no version of christianity will ever be forced upon you but if islam takes over it will absolutely be forced on you . If non compliant your head will be removed!
 
I dont think you understand how this works, no version of christianity will ever be forced upon you but if islam takes over it will absolutely be forced on you . If non compliant your head will be removed!
If you truly believe that, millions of North and South Americans, Asians and Africans who had Christianity forced on them might like a word...
 
Charlemagne’s forced Christianization of the Saxons resulted in an estimated 100,000 to 200,000 deaths.

The colonization of the Americas by Christian European powers resulted in millions of deaths due to forced Christianization.

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Torturing and execution of witches in medieval miniature, 14th century. Atrocities like witch hunts were often justified by religious authorities. The list of victims who were tortured or killed in the name of Christianity is long and tragic.

The Crusades (1096–1272)

The Crusades stand as one of the most infamous examples of the Church’s endorsement of violence. Framed as holy wars to reclaim the Holy Land from Muslim control, these campaigns left a devastating toll on all sides. The First Crusade alone resulted in an estimated 1.7 million deaths. The Sack of Jerusalem in 1099, where Crusaders massacred Muslims, Jews, and even Eastern Christians indiscriminately, epitomizes the brutality of these campaigns. Later Crusades, including the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars, further demonstrate the Church’s willingness to sanction violence for religious and political ends.

Death toll: Estimated at 1–3 million overall

Religious wars in Europe (16th–17th centuries)

The Thirty Years’ War, the most devastating of these conflicts, caused approximately 4–8 million deaths, including deaths from violence, famine, and disease. Other religious wars, such as the French Wars of Religion, contributed 2–4 million additional deaths.

Total death toll: 6–12 million.

The Inquisition (12th–19th centuries)

The Inquisition targeted heretics, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, and other dissenters, using torture, imprisonment, and executions to enforce orthodoxy. In Spain alone, it is estimated that 3,000–5,000 people were executed. Beyond the immediate deaths, the Inquisition created a climate of fear that stifled intellectual and cultural progress.

Spain: Estimates vary between 3,000–5,000 executions.
Broader Europe: Including other inquisitorial courts, death tolls reach 15,000–25,000, with many more imprisoned or tortured.

Forced conversions in Africa and Asia

The Spanish and Portuguese conquests in South America resulted in millions of deaths among indigenous peoples through violence, forced labor, and disease. While not solely the Church’s doing, its moral responsibility lies in its role as an enabler and ideological supporter of these atrocities. Missionary campaigns during colonial expansion also led to the forced conversion and displacement of indigenous populations. In many cases, resistance was met with violence, as colonial powers justified their actions through papal decrees like Dum Diversas (1452).

Death toll: 10–15 million indigenous people died, primarily due to forced labor and introduced diseases, although a significant portion resulted from violent campaigns justified by religious rhetoric.

Suppressions of heretical movements

Movements like the Cathars and Huguenots were brutally suppressed, with entire communities massacred under Church orders.

Albigensian Crusade: 200,000–1 million deaths.
Other movements (e.g., Huguenots): Tens of thousands killed, including the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre (1572), where an estimated 5,000–30,000 Huguenots were murdered in France.
 
Charlemagne’s forced Christianization of the Saxons resulted in an estimated 100,000 to 200,000 deaths.

The colonization of the Americas by Christian European powers resulted in millions of deaths due to forced Christianization.

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Torturing and execution of witches in medieval miniature, 14th century. Atrocities like witch hunts were often justified by religious authorities. The list of victims who were tortured or killed in the name of Christianity is long and tragic.

The Crusades (1096–1272)

The Crusades stand as one of the most infamous examples of the Church’s endorsement of violence. Framed as holy wars to reclaim the Holy Land from Muslim control, these campaigns left a devastating toll on all sides. The First Crusade alone resulted in an estimated 1.7 million deaths. The Sack of Jerusalem in 1099, where Crusaders massacred Muslims, Jews, and even Eastern Christians indiscriminately, epitomizes the brutality of these campaigns. Later Crusades, including the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars, further demonstrate the Church’s willingness to sanction violence for religious and political ends.

Death toll: Estimated at 1–3 million overall

Religious wars in Europe (16th–17th centuries)

The Thirty Years’ War, the most devastating of these conflicts, caused approximately 4–8 million deaths, including deaths from violence, famine, and disease. Other religious wars, such as the French Wars of Religion, contributed 2–4 million additional deaths.

Total death toll: 6–12 million.

The Inquisition (12th–19th centuries)

The Inquisition targeted heretics, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, and other dissenters, using torture, imprisonment, and executions to enforce orthodoxy. In Spain alone, it is estimated that 3,000–5,000 people were executed. Beyond the immediate deaths, the Inquisition created a climate of fear that stifled intellectual and cultural progress.

Spain: Estimates vary between 3,000–5,000 executions.
Broader Europe: Including other inquisitorial courts, death tolls reach 15,000–25,000, with many more imprisoned or tortured.

Forced conversions in Africa and Asia

The Spanish and Portuguese conquests in South America resulted in millions of deaths among indigenous peoples through violence, forced labor, and disease. While not solely the Church’s doing, its moral responsibility lies in its role as an enabler and ideological supporter of these atrocities. Missionary campaigns during colonial expansion also led to the forced conversion and displacement of indigenous populations. In many cases, resistance was met with violence, as colonial powers justified their actions through papal decrees like Dum Diversas (1452).

Death toll: 10–15 million indigenous people died, primarily due to forced labor and introduced diseases, although a significant portion resulted from violent campaigns justified by religious rhetoric.

Suppressions of heretical movements

Movements like the Cathars and Huguenots were brutally suppressed, with entire communities massacred under Church orders.

Albigensian Crusade: 200,000–1 million deaths.
Other movements (e.g., Huguenots): Tens of thousands killed, including the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre (1572), where an estimated 5,000–30,000 Huguenots were murdered in France.
Roman catholocism is not biblical christianity. Its actually luciferian!!
 
And no true follower of Christ would ever try and force Christ on anyone. Its not biblical and it wouldnt be genuine if it was forced.
 
Seems to be splitting hairs to most of us non-believers...similar to how 99% of Christians couldn't tell you the difference between a Sunni and a Shia Muslim.
Well I am not concerned with the difference. However I am concerned with what the quran says to do with those that refuse islam.
 
The crusades were in response to islamic conquest so that is a very poor example IMO.
I think you're reinforcing my point. Which was, religion as a primary cause of war.
As always I appreciate your forthright responses.
Thank you. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf and not be a foul mouthed asshole. I may make an exception for one.
You just want to make religion illegal, but you're not intolerant? C'mon...
Hyperbole. I was being hyperbolic to make a point. I thought I made that clear when I said that could never happen.
Why worry about something that has never happened to you?
It could happen to me or to you or to anyone if you're the wrong religion (or atheist in my case) and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. And has happened to many.

Also I have never been home invaded but I am prepared, you could call it worried, that it could happen. Ditto car insurance, fire insurance, etc.
 
I dont think you understand how this works, no version of christianity will ever be forced upon you but if islam takes over it will absolutely be forced on you . If non compliant your head will be removed!
Just don't be Jewish in Germany in 1939. Or ...

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Charlemagne’s forced Christianization of the Saxons resulted in an estimated 100,000 to 200,000 deaths.

The colonization of the Americas by Christian European powers resulted in millions of deaths due to forced Christianization.

View attachment 456681

Torturing and execution of witches in medieval miniature, 14th century. Atrocities like witch hunts were often justified by religious authorities. The list of victims who were tortured or killed in the name of Christianity is long and tragic.

The Crusades (1096–1272)

The Crusades stand as one of the most infamous examples of the Church’s endorsement of violence. Framed as holy wars to reclaim the Holy Land from Muslim control, these campaigns left a devastating toll on all sides. The First Crusade alone resulted in an estimated 1.7 million deaths. The Sack of Jerusalem in 1099, where Crusaders massacred Muslims, Jews, and even Eastern Christians indiscriminately, epitomizes the brutality of these campaigns. Later Crusades, including the Albigensian Crusade against the Cathars, further demonstrate the Church’s willingness to sanction violence for religious and political ends.

Death toll: Estimated at 1–3 million overall

Religious wars in Europe (16th–17th centuries)

The Thirty Years’ War, the most devastating of these conflicts, caused approximately 4–8 million deaths, including deaths from violence, famine, and disease. Other religious wars, such as the French Wars of Religion, contributed 2–4 million additional deaths.

Total death toll: 6–12 million.

The Inquisition (12th–19th centuries)

The Inquisition targeted heretics, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, and other dissenters, using torture, imprisonment, and executions to enforce orthodoxy. In Spain alone, it is estimated that 3,000–5,000 people were executed. Beyond the immediate deaths, the Inquisition created a climate of fear that stifled intellectual and cultural progress.

Spain: Estimates vary between 3,000–5,000 executions.
Broader Europe: Including other inquisitorial courts, death tolls reach 15,000–25,000, with many more imprisoned or tortured.

Forced conversions in Africa and Asia

The Spanish and Portuguese conquests in South America resulted in millions of deaths among indigenous peoples through violence, forced labor, and disease. While not solely the Church’s doing, its moral responsibility lies in its role as an enabler and ideological supporter of these atrocities. Missionary campaigns during colonial expansion also led to the forced conversion and displacement of indigenous populations. In many cases, resistance was met with violence, as colonial powers justified their actions through papal decrees like Dum Diversas (1452).

Death toll: 10–15 million indigenous people died, primarily due to forced labor and introduced diseases, although a significant portion resulted from violent campaigns justified by religious rhetoric.

Suppressions of heretical movements

Movements like the Cathars and Huguenots were brutally suppressed, with entire communities massacred under Church orders.

Albigensian Crusade: 200,000–1 million deaths.
Other movements (e.g., Huguenots): Tens of thousands killed, including the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre (1572), where an estimated 5,000–30,000 Huguenots were murdered in France.
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The Americas were not colonized by Christians. Christopher Columbus and his pedophile gang were not Christian.
 
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The Americas were not colonized by Christians. Christopher Columbus and his pedophile gang were not Christian.
Christopher Columbus was a devout Roman Catholic who viewed his voyages as a divine mission to spread Christianity. He signed his name Christophorus ("Christ-bearer"), used biblical texts to calculate his routes, and compiled the Book of Prophecies to link his discoveries to the end times.
 
Christopher Columbus was a devout Roman Catholic who viewed his voyages as a divine mission to spread Christianity. He signed his name Christophorus ("Christ-bearer"), used biblical texts to calculate his routes, and compiled the Book of Prophecies to link his discoveries to the end times.
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Christopher Columbus and his pedophile gang came to the America's illegally as a terrorists. They enslaved, murdered, raped and stole from Americans because they were illegal immigrants. Christopher Columbus and his pedophile gang were not born in the Americas. They did not go through American immigration. They did not pass a citizenship test. They were illegal alien terrorists doing what illegal immigrants always do.

Israel owes reparations to Americans. I want my reparations before the African American slaves get any too. They're DEI immigrants or illegals as well. America first. Native Americans first.
 
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