Got to try the Axe FX II today

[Jay Mitchell]

There is more than one way to be complete douchebag.

And, as we can see, you're constantly inventing new ones.

 

[Jay Mitchell]

AH, has it still not dawned on you that the person to whom you gave monitor advice (which was ill-informed) was not asking for that advice? He wanted to know whether the KPA or Axe-Fx would be better for low-volume use. I didn't promote anything, nor did I give speaker advice. All I did was to correct your BS. Obviously it got under your skin, but maybe your skin is just too damn thin. Just sayin'....

 

[Rogue]

There is more than one way to be complete douchebag.

And, as we can see, you're constantly inventing new ones.

I would be an expert, and it takes one to know one.

 

[Audioholic]

AH, has it still not dawned on you that the person to whom you gave moniitor advice (which was ill-informed) was not asking for that advice? He wanted to know whether the KPA or Axe-Fx would be better for low-volume use. I didn't promote anything, nor did I give speaker advice. All I did was to correct your BS. Obviously it got under your skin, but maybe your skin is just too damn thin. Just sayin'....

OK Jay, Seeming how I was not the only one suggesting that he look at different monitoring solutions rather then different modellers as the difference in low volume satisfaction, your right, my BS was so uncalled for. I will never suggest anything other the the amazing CLR designed by Jay mitchell, that not only sounds friggen amazing at low volumes, it won't bother the neighbors, won't be over kill, even though its in mono, will be better then a stereo set of studio monitors, (even though your CLR IS better then most studio monitors). your right. I will stop my BS and only suggest the CLR for anything and anything. Maybe YOU will understand that it is a discussion forum, and different ideas are shared, and maybe the original question wasn't the right question, so in regards of truly helping, not being self serving arrogant asshat, I will offer some ideas, based on what I think is best. But clearly anything other the your CLR is pure crap and shouldn't even be considered. For ANY use, the CLR IS THE ONLY AND BEST solution on the planet for anyone and everyone... friggen asshat

keep talking Jay, I am sure you are selling a ton more of CLR's with your salesmanship...

yes let me trade in my studio monitors and sit in front of this..... great idea Jay... ( I will hear things in the mix I have never heard before....." )

 

[Rogue]

OK Jay, Seeming how I was not the only one suggesting that he look at different monitoring solutions rather then different modellers as the difference in low volume satisfaction, your right, my BS was so uncalled for. I will never suggest anything other the the amazing CLR designed by Jay mitchell, that not only sounds friggen amazing at low volumes, it won't bother the neighbors, won't be over kill, even though its in mono, will be better then a stereo set of studio monitors, (even though your CLR IS better then most studio monitors). your right. I will stop my BS and only suggest the CLR for anything and anything. Maybe YOU will understand that it is a discussion forum, and different ideas are shared, and maybe the original question wasn't the right question, so in regards of truly helping, not being self serving arrogant asshat, I will offer some ideas, based on what I think is best. But clearly anything other the your CLR is pure crap and shouldn't even be considered. Not for ANY use, the CLR IS THE ONLY AND BEST solution on the planet for anyone and everyone... friggen asshat

There was nothing wrong with your response, dude. Quite a reasonable reply to the OP. Jay gets his rocks off on being the biggest dickhead in the world, so he saw the opening and jumped. Call him a dickhead and be done with it.

 

[Jay Mitchell]

You haven't heard 'em, AH. You should be prepared to accept that the things you think you know about acoustics and sources of sound may not all turn out to be correct. Just in case....

 

[ejecta]

OK Jay, Seeming how I was not the only one suggesting that he look at different monitoring solutions rather then different modellers as the difference in low volume satisfaction, your right, my BS was so uncalled for. I will never suggest anything other the the amazing CLR designed by Jay mitchell, that not only sounds friggen amazing at low volumes, it won't bother the neighbors, won't be over kill, even though its in mono, will be better then a stereo set of studio monitors, (even though your CLR IS better then most studio monitors). your right. I will stop my BS and only suggest the CLR for anything and anything. Maybe YOU will understand that it is a discussion forum, and different ideas are shared, and maybe the original question wasn't the right question, so in regards of truly helping, not being self serving arrogant asshat, I will offer some ideas, based on what I think is best. But clearly anything other the your CLR is pure crap and shouldn't even be considered. Not for ANY use, the CLR IS THE ONLY AND BEST solution on the planet for anyone and everyone... friggen asshat

There was nothing wrong with your response, dude. Quite a reasonable reply to the OP. Jay gets his rocks off on being the biggest dickhead in the world, so he saw the opening and jumped. Call him a dickhead and be done with it.

Evidently has a booger fetish too.

 

[Audioholic]

You haven't heard 'em, AH. You should be prepared to accept that the things you think you know about acoustics and sources of sound may not all turn out to be correct. Just in case....

what size speaker is the CLR? 12 inch? I am sitting in front of a 6.5 inch speaker, stereo, sounds friggen amazing. Clear as I need and as detailed. When I plug into my 12 in speaker, guess what? it moves more air, has more low end, and travels further and I bother people at what seems like the same volume. No way I am gonna want to sit right in front of a 12 inch speaker to reference my mixes either, just in 13 years in studio, not what I would want. so when someone is talking about keeping volume down to not disturb neighbors, sure a 12 inch speaker design probably could sound great at low volumes, but as the advertising suggests on your product, made to ROCK SPL. now, I may not be as edumacated in acoustics as you, and have mostly hands on and real world experience and credits, but I am thinking if someone is asking what to use for low volume satisfaction and not disturb neighbors only, different monitoring solutions should be the topic of discussion when talking about a digital piece of gear that does not require volume differences to sound optimal. While you say either does your CLR, clearly it is designed for some volume, or maybe that is just all advertising talk and it really is designed for whisper quite apartment use.... I am confused... Still, a decent pair of studio monitors will do plenty fine for low volume use, probably even better to the OP, can hear all his stuff in stereo, and probably won't feel the need to crank up the volume as much as someone may find themselves doing with a larger speaker. And this is really all because I suggested a different route then the CLR for quiet guitar playing operation. unreal. all the best Jay... PAt yourself on the back a few times...

 

[Shark Diver]

You haven't heard 'em, AH. You should be prepared to accept that the things you think you know about acoustics and sources of sound may not all turn out to be correct. Just in case....

Looking forward to Mo's take on these. I like the traditional look of a cab and it would be nice if the 90 degree spread sound is consistent. Possibly a mini stack behind with a wedge as a monitor up front?

All personalities aside, Tom is good people and if the product is as good as advertised it should do well.

Even though derailed - the OP has made me gas more to try the Axe II.

 

[Ventura]

Gentlemen...

In hopes that a little humor may get us back on track, and perhaps disband this current theme of insults, backhandedness, and overall, not helpful banter:

We're all entitled to opinions - and as I've said before, opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one and if it ain't yours, it typically stinks.

I'm sorry my query with respect to why Mr. Mitchell was being dissed a few posts up resulted in this thread's direction. I have NO dog in this fight; just hoping to keep RT a "cool" place for "cool" cats.

Said in earnest,
Mo

 

[Audioholic]

Gentlemen...

In hopes that a little humor may get us back on track, and perhaps disband this current theme of insults, backhandedness, and overall, not helpful banter:

We're all entitled to opinions - and as I've said before, opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one and if it ain't yours, it typically stinks.

I'm sorry my query with respect to why Mr. Mitchell was being dissed a few posts up resulted in this thread's direction. I have NO dog in this fight; just hoping to keep RT a "cool" place for "cool" cats.

Said in earnest,
Mo

True story, sorry to derail. Axe is bad ass. Glad you like it man.

 

[Ventura]

You haven't heard 'em, AH. You should be prepared to accept that the things you think you know about acoustics and sources of sound may not all turn out to be correct. Just in case....

Looking forward to Mo's take on these.

Thanks man!! Me too

I oughta be getting "the call" fairly soon. I'm going full hog on getting two rather than one, so I can just get into the entire stereo panning, megasonic vibe. For the record, there's a fair bit riding on how these will work for me. I made the decision a couple months back to really reassess whether or not having the number of stadium sized heads and 4x12 backline and 20 some odd boutique stomps and a host of other related periphery is really necessary or even practically being utilized in my life right now at this time. The things you own end up owning you. And between tubes and biasing and moving [f*ckin!!] mics all over hell's half acre, and not playing when the kids are asleep or what not, has just made me think "okay, look, there are tremendous musicians out there and bedroom rockstars all the same, who are clocking mega time on this unit and LOVING the tone". I want that freedom. I want that productivity. But running things as I have through my DAW monitors or, worse, my headphones, has made me dislike what I'm experiencing. So I wanna give it my all, learn the fundamentals, work with the technology, listen with open ears, and really "do it".

This won't be an out-of-the-box review. No. This will be a "the CLRs showed up tonight in this condition" review met with a month's worth of playing, experimenting, and not flicking the switch on one tube driven amp so help me gawd!!

There ya have it. This is why I'm really eager to get these CLRs and really eager to know if I'll be able to lessen my load of otherwise emotionally attached "stuff". And for the record - yes - I'm objective enough to make the call and pull the cord if it's all that and a bag of chips.

Peace,
Mo

 

[ejecta]

Gentlemen...

In hopes that a little humor may get us back on track, and perhaps disband this current theme of insults, backhandedness, and overall, not helpful banter:

We're all entitled to opinions - and as I've said before, opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one and if it ain't yours, it typically stinks.

I'm sorry my query with respect to why Mr. Mitchell was being dissed a few posts up resulted in this thread's direction. I have NO dog in this fight; just hoping to keep RT a "cool" place for "cool" cats.

Said in earnest,
Mo

I see your humor and raise you this.

 

[Mailman1971]

Gentlemen...

In hopes that a little humor may get us back on track, and perhaps disband this current theme of insults, backhandedness, and overall, not helpful banter:

We're all entitled to opinions - and as I've said before, opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one and if it ain't yours, it typically stinks.

I'm sorry my query with respect to why Mr. Mitchell was being dissed a few posts up resulted in this thread's direction. I have NO dog in this fight; just hoping to keep RT a "cool" place for "cool" cats.

Said in earnest,
Mo

I see your humor and raise you this.

Oh man.........

 

[Rogue]

Sorry OP, the axe is cool. But I had to laugh.

 

[Jay Mitchell]

I'm going full hog on getting two rather than one,

Point of order: that's "two thirds hog." "Full hog" is three of 'em puppies in W/D/W. That's what I demo'ed in January 2012 at the Dallas Axe-Fx users get-together.

I made the decision a couple months back to really reassess whether or not having the number of stadium sized heads and 4x12 backline and 20 some odd boutique stomps and a host of other related periphery is really necessary or even practically being utilized in my life right now at this time.

I hope it all works out for you. I still own a few amps, but I haven't played them very much over the past 5 years. But I have never recommended the Axe-Fx - of either generation - for everyone. It works for some folks, not so much for others.

This is why I'm really eager to get these CLRs and really eager to know if I'll be able to lessen my load of otherwise emotionally attached "stuff".

I've made this point before, and I'll make it again here: if you feel like there's "something missing" from the Axe-Fx, I would not necessarily expect a change of monitor to fix that. It might, but I wouldn't bet on it. A CLR will enable you to hear exactly what's coming out of the Axe-Fx, but you may still not like what you hear. I've never gotten anywhere close to the sounds I wanted with Cliff's default advanced amp block parameters. My AFX II is on firmware 7, so I can't speak to how the current (9 something) firmware works. But IME, I've always had to dial what I wanted. It was never there "out of the box." That never bothered me (although repeating the process after every freaking firmware revision has really gotten old), but it can drive some people crazy.

 

[Jay Mitchell]

I see your humor and raise you this.

Hey, I'm not a crackhead.

 

[Mailman1971]

I see your humor and raise you this.

Hey, I'm not a crackhead.

I dont know you....but seems some argument has been going on with you and a few members for a minute or 2...

But KUDOS TO YOU for laughing at yourself on this!
I am the 1st one to laugh at myself. All in good fun. And man that pic was funny.

Wonder if I can make one of myself.

 

[Shark Diver]

I spoke to someone I trust who has a CLR and now I want one like yesterday...

 

[Shark Diver]

I am the 1st one to laugh at myself.

But in all fairness you have so much to laugh about...

(I'm probably not going to get my mail anymore now )