LP Freak
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Change the title of the thread to " Mesa MKII 2C++ clip" and everyone will love it. 
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acalaf
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The scooped Eq settings are what make is sound "processed'. Same thing happens with the a real Mark amp.
Elric
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If you had just posted the sound clips and said, "Doodz! I just found a MKIIC+ in pawn shop! Holy sh*t! Now I understand what all the fuss is about!!" the d*ckheads +1ing this would be like "Sounds AMAZEBALLS! Score!" there is so much psychology with this stuff. You always get this stuff when someone posts a modeler clip no matter how incredible it sounds. Tons of tube amp tones sound 'processed' in a mix but no one complains because it is 'real'...155":24rwa4vf said:
I hear raw amp clips that sound like hammered a** here all the time but everyone forms a NAD circle jerk because it is some amp brand of the month. To their credit, though, they don't sound processed.
In fact one thing listening to clips has really hammered home to me is how hard it is to do a good job recording a live amp properly.
aizenx
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Elric":jmfxjsea said:If you had just posted the sound clips and said, "Doodz! I just found a MKIIC+ in pawn shop! Holy sh*t! Now I understand what all the fuss is about!!" the d*ckheads +1ing this would be like "Sounds AMAZEBALLS! Score!" there is so much psychology with this stuff. You always get this stuff when someone posts a modeler clip no matter how incredible it sounds. Tons of tube amp tones sound 'processed' in a mix but no one complains because it is 'real'...155":jmfxjsea said:
I hear raw amp clips that sound like hammered a** here all the time but everyone forms a NAD circle jerk because it is some amp brand of the month. To their credit, though, they don't sound processed.
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Steinmetzify
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This model is fun as fuck to mess around with. Still dialing it. Short chug clip:
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A% ... 70nfjv3ipl
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A% ... 70nfjv3ipl
BYTOR
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Rezamatix":2adcj2wj said:
So it's kinda like most amp clips on here
BYTOR
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Steinmetzify":tpzru16g said:
That sounds good & it's mixed with the track well....
What IR are you using with it?
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Fuego
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It does not sound like an amp. They're getting better though. Digital will never replace tubes and sound as good.
Steinmetzify
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BYTOR":112k88q6 said:
Thanks man. This is actually a converted Kemper profile cab, from one of the Tills stuff. Can send if you want it. It's one of my go to's for metal in general and Mesas in particular, cause I dig saturation and it's got a good low end. I use it a lot for practice.
thiswaythatway
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155":23zc9f5w said:
I agree somewhat. It sounds decent on it's own but sounds a bit mushy to be a Mark series tone. Maybe it's the way the guy is playing. There is a kinda plastic thing about the tone.....
I know I know. 
thiswaythatway
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Elric":1miqyg2l said:If you had just posted the sound clips and said, "Doodz! I just found a MKIIC+ in pawn shop! Holy sh*t! Now I understand what all the fuss is about!!" the d*ckheads +1ing this would be like "Sounds AMAZEBALLS! Score!" there is so much psychology with this stuff. You always get this stuff when someone posts a modeler clip no matter how incredible it sounds. Tons of tube amp tones sound 'processed' in a mix but no one complains because it is 'real'...155":1miqyg2l said:
I hear raw amp clips that sound like hammered a** here all the time but everyone forms a NAD circle jerk because it is some amp brand of the month. To their credit, though, they don't sound processed.
No, not always. Some people here will actually give an honest opinion. Some guys here are friends so they won't give negative views on clips though.
Steinmetzify
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Rezamatix":1zha1m3o said:I didn't think that sounded good at all. just goes to show, some people have different...ears...
Sorry man...I just loaded it up real quick and spun some stuff while in between clients. All good, just because I like your clips doesn't mean you have to like mine.
Steinmetzify
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Rezamatix":130cim9h said:
Was none taken man, no worries. Thanks for the honesty.
PBGas
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Is there such a thing as "modelling cork sniffers"?
Mailman1971
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Well I think you have legs and an ass that just wont quit....Steinmetzify":8p121hk8 said:Rezamatix":8p121hk8 said:
Was none taken man, no worries. Thanks for the honesty.
Sorry Scotty....just being honest.
Steinmetzify
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Mailman1971":3bsgvago said:Well I think you have legs and an ass that just wont quit....Steinmetzify":3bsgvago said:Rezamatix":3bsgvago said:
Was none taken man, no worries. Thanks for the honesty.
Sorry Scotty....just being honest.
God dammit Dan, send those pics back and stop sending ME pics of what you're doing with them!
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borninwinter
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BYTOR":2rdjklvc said:Blitzie":2rdjklvc said:
Yeah, so did some others on here until the tube only cork sniffers came a callin'
The tone in the vid was dialed in by Mikko to sound great in the mix like it does at 1:20 of the first vid.
Take any of the isolated guitar tracks from any holy grail recorded tube amp tone from a song & it sounds "totally processed dude"
I didn't think it sounded bad by any mean...but the isolated black album tones sound pretty fantastic imo and it's not quite there.
BYTOR
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borninwinter":11sh3tob said:
Yeah, but if an isolated track of multiple amps/tracks mixed together & professionally recorded/eq'd/mixed by Bob Rock & played by Hetfield, does not sound better than some guy recording a clip of a new amp model that he quickly dialed in to his taste & played through a cab IR of his choice.............then we got a headline!
In other words.....it's ridiculous to judge the merits of an amp model based on someones clip, just like it would be crazy to judge a particular tube amp based on a posted clip by someone.
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borninwinter
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BYTOR":33tlz16i said:
Agreed for the most part, but the comment I was thinking of mostly was "Take any of the isolated guitar tracks from any holy grail recorded tube amp tone from a song & it sounds "totally processed dude""
On the Metallica tracks, you can hear the individual tracks come in and out in places and definitely the effect of the layers, but the whole thing is in another league start to finish. In terms of the average person's ability to get a pretty good sound in a cost effective way without having to involve a Bob Rock or whoever, it's a no-brainer that the Axe is a great way to go. It's also the way I would go if I were in a touring band. But I doubt Bob could sit down with the Axe and an engineer and re-create the tones to sound as good as the original if he were inclined to try. Maybe he could, but I doubt it.
Steinmetzify
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Rezamatix":stexutdt said:Steinmetzify":stexutdt said:Mailman1971":stexutdt said:Well I think you have legs and an ass that just wont quit....Steinmetzify":stexutdt said:Rezamatix":stexutdt said:
Was none taken man, no worries. Thanks for the honesty.
Sorry Scotty....just being honest.
God dammit Dan, send those pics back and stop sending ME pics of what you're doing with them!
try this conversation on TGP. please
RT rules.
True story. I get some what exasperated by the guys on forums that take shit personal. So someone doesn't like an amp you like or album or guitar or whatever and you're a grown man and get butthurt about it? Time to get off the internet. Thankfully I don't see a ton of that here. Some, but goddamn....some of these places you get banned for saying you don't like something.
Thanks RT.
