highest gain ever?

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I have a 5150ll. I know it has less gain than the standard but when I have the gain on 8 it's equal to about 3 on my engl :confused:
 
chunktone":57jqfo13 said:
Deizel Herbert.
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I fully agree. the gain is too much at 11 o clock or so on the gain knob. after that it compresses into oblivion.
 
Fireball 60

Powerball V1.2

ADA MP1 w/ 3TM

Engl Special Ed

having owned a 5150 they sound alot gainier at low volumes than at high volumes. They really open up when you crank them, they are not as high gain as Engls IMHO
 
yeah, get a 5150 past 4.5 or so and it gets really bold.
i would say preamps rocktron ada and so on.
 
Engl (IMO) has the most gain I have ever played personally. Owned a Powerball and an SE and they were so full of saturated gain.
 
bsp01":2kmpllro said:
JimmyDoomsday":2kmpllro said:
when you guys say original 5150, are you referring to the one with the block-lettered EVH initials or script (or are they essentially the same)?

also, how would you compare the original to the 5150 II gain wise?
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The script and block are the exact same amp, as is the 6505.
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Theoretically they are the same but the components that populate the boards are different. Same values, yes, but different manufacture nonetheless.
Having owned a first run 5150 Combo and playing it side by side w/a new 6505 combo there is a definite difference. I do realize that well broken-in speakers, and my tube choice of coin base Sovteks probably contributed to what I was hearing as well, but indeed the components on the boards are noticeably different.

5150 is very saturated and the circuit has a "built in" compressor which adds to the super high gain feel. Definitely the highest gain amp I've ever owned.
 
JimmyDoomsday":1ftiry2o said:
when you guys say original 5150, are you referring to the one with the block-lettered EVH initials or script (or are they essentially the same)?
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They're the same.
 
crankyrayhanky":3md0zlr6 said:
Peavey XXX from my experience. Death metal gain at 9:00 on the crunch channel.
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I'm seeing all this metal love for the XXX & I just don't get it. My bandmate had one for years and it just didn't cut it for metal for me. The orange was not enough chainsaw and the red was too much bee buzz. Could be my ears, tastes, need for fresh tubes...but that amp always had a smoother rock tone on the orange (not metal)

To be fair, I hated playing that amp, but liked it a lot when others (more rock guys) played it :confused:

In module world, the Salvo 1666 has a fierce level of gain! I would like to try a Dragon ;)
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I never said I liked it. Matter of fact, I hated it. But you can't argue that it doesn't have extreme levels of saturated gain.
 
Most usuable gain for me would be the engl savage 120. My favorite so far.
 
I've owned alot of high gainers from Engl and Framus to VHT and Diezel...I gotta say of the ones I've owned it would be the XXX to me. Red Channel was just stupid.

To my ears while the Cobra had alot of gain it's low end was just unbelievable. I've owned a JVM for quite awhile now and the red channel on that is pretty ridiculous as well. Still love the amber/orange channel on it...5 years in and I'm still not bored with it.

I always loved the gain of the original 5150's...like someone said...crank them and they open up nicely...feel the III is just a much more refined version of the original.

Again...from what I've owned...XXX.
 
crankyrayhanky":1u11ll6p said:
Peavey XXX from my experience. Death metal gain at 9:00 on the crunch channel.
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I'm seeing all this metal love for the XXX & I just don't get it. My bandmate had one for years and it just didn't cut it for metal for me. The orange was not enough chainsaw and the red was too much bee buzz. Could be my ears, tastes, need for fresh tubes...but that amp always had a smoother rock tone on the orange (not metal)

To be fair, I hated playing that amp, but liked it a lot when others (more rock guys) played it :confused:

In module world, the Salvo 1666 has a fierce level of gain! I would like to try a Dragon ;)
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i have a 3120(XXX with different shell) and that thing has too much gain in stock form and will sound buzzy on channel 3 with the wrong type of speakers. Just change 2 of the pre-amp tubes and use less efficient speakers and you have yourself some nice tones.
 
i play metal with SOOOO much less gain than a lot of other people, so, i never really had contemplated a "gain, is the cup full, or half empty?" question.

a 5150 with the pregain on either channel at like 12oclock and the post gain at 3 or above is PLENTY for me...anything above that on those amps really, imho changes note definition and the way the tone controls respond.

mesa mark v's have ridicu-tarded amounts of dialable distortion, as the the mark iv's.

line 6 insane amp, doubled with an uberschall model in the vetta was pretty crazy amounts of distortion.
 
the ISP THETA head advertised that it has 126 db of usable gain (believe me, i tried using all of it just for giggles). it has a second switchable preamp you can put in front of the preamp you are using. both preamps have sweepable mids, so in theory you would have a ton of mid control.

i really thought it was the future of solid state (oxymoron or redundant?). didn't like that amp at all.
 
what about the vh140 amps....they're pretty fuckin brutal sounding....im debating picking up a used one to add to my young, yet growing stable of amps!
 
Guess it depends on how much squealing you can stand, how high the noise floor can be and how much clipping you can tolerate. Not many amps can hold together to even attempt it. I will go out on a limb and say it would have to be something custom from the likes of Fortin that could design something that won't come apart and start spitting caps out the ass end and drive you out of the room with pig squeals and dimed out hiss.
 
I'm going to say channel 4 Red mode of the JVM; I have NEVER had the gain higher than 10 O'Clock and it's already too much LOL
 
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