Honest question for conservative members here at R-T

jdel77 said:
All things considered, do you still think Trump is the best representative of the Conservative/Republican/GOP demographic in the US?
I mean, if you had a choice of a handful of candidates, why him?

What about him do you truly feel represents the Republican party?

What has he done right?

Which of his values and behaviours truly aligns with your own?

How does he stack up with the way you were raised?

When his 2nd Term ends, what will be his legacy which you’ll point out and tell your kids you were proud to vote for?

* This isn’t about deflecting and stating that he’s better than the alternative. That’s cheap and lazy thinking.
I want to know what his supporters truly believe this guy is doing in the interests of your country in both the near and long term future.
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- not at all. I don’t think anyone was under any delusion he was a conservative or a republican. He just seemed to be the guy who called out all the problems and how he would address them, and we thought he had so much money he wouldn’t be in someone’s pocket. Plus we figured out real fast He was not afraid to call things what they were and we liked that.

I don’t think there is anything about him that is uniquely republican, but he’s totally pro American and republicans love that. BTW I am an Independent who votes republican.
Mostly because I have no choice…

Almost everything he has done has been on the money except the Epstein file bs. It’s funny that every move he makes and every decision is the end of the world or the end of democracy but history shows his actions have had the effect he said they would.
I wish they would release all the Epstein stuff just because they said they would, but I’m not wasting time on that. The democrats had that info for years, if there was anything in there that would affect Trump, they would have had it on every news outlet on the planet.

I think he appreciates loyalty, he’s a fighter and he loves the country he lives in. Beyond that we don’t have a single teeny tiny thing in common

I might as well have been raised on another planet. I can’t see any correlation at all

I can truthfully say I voted for the guy I thought would do best for the country and would never give up trying.
Even when it was hard as hell
Even when they used the entire corrupt machine against him illegally
Even when they tried to kill him
Even while they lie about him 24/7 and half the country is gullible enough to believe it

Meanwhile..
Things are really starting to look up.
I’m glad I voted for him
An Independent guy who doesn’t really even like the guy because he has a big mouth and a huge ego and I usually cannot stand people like that, but I spent a lot of years in competition based sports and saw tons of guys with huge egos because they had money and some talent, and here’s the one thing that every last one I ever knew had in common -

The absolute last thing on earth a person like that wants is to say “I’m gonna do this” and then not be able to pull it off.
I’m counting on the very thing about him that people hate about him to be the very thing that get this thing turned around. And he’s delivering by the metric ton at all levels.
We are past the point of caring about all the naysayers.

Thanks for the unexpected reasonable question, I gave you the most honest answers I could 👍
 
Well one of the reasons is this.
Second reason is he dont back down.

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Findthetone1 said:
He's done nothing but portray himself (her/they/themself?) as an elitist, condescending asshole towards Americans, and NOW it's time to be humble?
Think not.
Maybe he (it/they/she?) should justify the question first if honest answers are what the intent is.
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That’s a typical shitlib. They are ruthless until they lose, then they want to be all friendly. Fuck that and fuck them. I don’t hang around with dudes who like cocks anyway, period. :ROFLMAO:
 
The Blazing Saddle said:
He’s always been a pro-queer, pompous foreign douche. :ROFLMAO:
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Findthetone1 said:
He's done nothing but portray himself (her/they/themself?) as an elitist, condescending asshole towards Americans, and NOW it's time to be humble?
Think not.
Maybe he (it/they/she?) should justify the question first if honest answers are what the intent is.
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Get a room.
 
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So I asked Chat GPT about this:

✅ Fully kept Trump promises made before 2025 inauguration:

1.
Pardons for January 6 Defendants
  • Promise: Pardon individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol riot.
  • Delivery: Within hours of taking office, Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of over 1,500 people tied to the riot, including prominent figures.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

2.
Withdraw from Paris Climate Agreement
  • Promise: Exit the international climate pact.
  • Delivery: Trump formally withdrew the U.S. from the agreement on Day 1 of his presidency.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

3.
Reimpose and Expand Travel Bans
  • Promise: Reinstate and broaden travel bans targeting certain countries, especially with security concerns.
  • Delivery: Travel restrictions were reimposed and expanded to include countries like Nigeria, Eritrea, and Myanmar.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

4.
Keystone XL & Dakota Access Pipeline Approvals
  • Promise: Reauthorize and expedite controversial energy pipelines.
  • Delivery: Permits were reinstated and construction resumed on both pipelines.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

5.
“America First” Foreign Policy
  • Promise: Withdraw from global institutions and cut foreign aid.
  • Delivery:
    • U.S. withdrew again from the WHO.
    • Major reductions to USAID.
    • Sanctions placed on ICC and defunding of UNRWA.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

6.
Tariffs on Foreign Imports
  • Promise: Impose tariffs on foreign goods to protect American industry.
  • Delivery: New rounds of tariffs applied to Chinese, Mexican, Canadian, and European imports.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%
7.
Tax Cuts and Deregulation
  • Promise: Pass further tax cuts for individuals and businesses.
  • Delivery: The “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” (2025) made earlier Trump-era tax cuts permanent and expanded them.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

8.
Release of Marc Fogel from Russia
  • Promise: Secure the release of American teacher Marc Fogel imprisoned in Russia.
  • Delivery: Fogel was released in a U.S.–Russia prisoner swap in February 2025.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%


❌ Promises Not Kept or Still Unfulfilled

1.
End the Russia–Ukraine war within 24 hours
  • Promise: Immediately resolve the conflict in Ukraine after inauguration.
  • Outcome: The war continues with no peace agreement. This remains one of the most high-profile unfulfilled pledges.

2.
End the Gaza conflict or reach peace
  • Promise: Quickly broker peace in Gaza.
  • Outcome: No resolution has been achieved; violence and instability persist.

3.
Bring down inflation starting Day 1 / Lower grocery and energy prices
  • Promise: Slash inflation, reduce grocery prices, cut energy bills.
  • Outcome: Inflation has not fallen sustainably; tariffs have likely driven up consumer prices.

4.
Eliminate taxes on tips and overtime pay
  • Promise: Abolish federal taxes on tips and overtime wages.
  • Outcome: No such tax relief has been implemented.

5.
Cut taxes by more than $7 trillion over 10 years
  • Promise: Massive tax cuts across all income levels.
  • Outcome: Legislation remains stalled in Congress, so far unrealized.

6.
Provide free IVF for all who need it
  • Promise: Mandate government or insurance coverage for all in‑vitro fertilization costs.
  • Outcome: Executive orders merely directed studies or recommendations; no free IVF funding enacted.

7.
Close the U.S. Department of Education
  • Promise: Eliminate the Education Department entirely.
  • Outcome: Cuts have been made to staff and functions, but abolishment would require Congress—no complete elimination has occurred.

8.
Conduct the largest mass deportation operation in U.S. history
  • Promise: Launch the largest-ever deportation initiative day one.
  • Outcome: Actions have increased removals and invoked unusual legal authority, but courts have blocked parts and the scale falls short of historic levels.

9.
Overhaul the Affordable Care Act & lower pharmaceutical costs
  • Promise: Fully repeal or replace Obamacare; slash prescription drug prices.
  • Outcome: No significant repeal or replacement; only executive steps toward transparency without measurable price reductions.


10.
Preserve Social Security and Medicare without cuts
  • Promise: Commit to no cuts in Social Security or Medicare.
  • Outcome: Though publicly defended, proposals include cutting administrative staff and potential benefit reductions; no legal safeguard enacted.

Also…

📊
Who Benefits from Trump’s 2025 Tax Cuts?

Income Group​
Share of Total Tax Benefits​
Average Annual Benefit​
% Increase in After-Tax Income​
Top 1%~30-35%~$61,000~3.2%
Top 20% (overall)~60-69%Varies2-3%
Middle 20%~10-15%~$1,500 - $2,900~1.3-1.5%
Lower-Income (<$30K)Small share<$500

Key Takeaways:
  • ✅ The wealthy (top 20%) receive ~2/3 of all benefits.
  • ✅ Top 1% gain ~20x more (in $) than middle-income households.
  • ⚠️ Middle & lower-income earners see modest or small gains.
  • 🔁 No major offsetting benefits like free healthcare or education.

… and finally…

To what degree does a likelihood exist of Trump being guilty of criminal activity, specifically associated with Epstein:

Public Perception (Poll Data)

Economist / YouGov (July 2025):
  • 46% of Americans believe Trump was involved in Epstein crimes.
  • 32% disagree, and 23% are unsure .
  • Disagreement crosses party lines: 80% of Democrats believe involvement; only 11% of Republicans do.

Reuters / Ipsos and Rasmussen:
  • Just 17% of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the Epstein matter .
  • 67–69% believe the government is withholding evidence or documents, fueling suspicions of cover-up .

📈 Estimated Likelihood of Criminal Guilt


Source / Basis​
Estimated Likelihood​
Actual legal evidence or indictments~0-5%

Media and expert analysis (interpreting closeness and behavior)		~10-20%

Public opinion believing Trump involvement		~40-50% (per polls)


How intelligent people still think he’s the best representative of Republican government policy is beyond me.
 
jdel77 said:
So I asked Chat GPT about this:

✅ Fully kept Trump promises made before 2025 inauguration:

1.
Pardons for January 6 Defendants
  • Promise: Pardon individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol riot.
  • Delivery: Within hours of taking office, Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of over 1,500 people tied to the riot, including prominent figures.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

2.
Withdraw from Paris Climate Agreement
  • Promise: Exit the international climate pact.
  • Delivery: Trump formally withdrew the U.S. from the agreement on Day 1 of his presidency.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

3.
Reimpose and Expand Travel Bans
  • Promise: Reinstate and broaden travel bans targeting certain countries, especially with security concerns.
  • Delivery: Travel restrictions were reimposed and expanded to include countries like Nigeria, Eritrea, and Myanmar.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

4.
Keystone XL & Dakota Access Pipeline Approvals
  • Promise: Reauthorize and expedite controversial energy pipelines.
  • Delivery: Permits were reinstated and construction resumed on both pipelines.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

5.
“America First” Foreign Policy
  • Promise: Withdraw from global institutions and cut foreign aid.
  • Delivery:
    • U.S. withdrew again from the WHO.
    • Major reductions to USAID.
    • Sanctions placed on ICC and defunding of UNRWA.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

6.
Tariffs on Foreign Imports
  • Promise: Impose tariffs on foreign goods to protect American industry.
  • Delivery: New rounds of tariffs applied to Chinese, Mexican, Canadian, and European imports.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%
7.
Tax Cuts and Deregulation
  • Promise: Pass further tax cuts for individuals and businesses.
  • Delivery: The “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” (2025) made earlier Trump-era tax cuts permanent and expanded them.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

8.
Release of Marc Fogel from Russia
  • Promise: Secure the release of American teacher Marc Fogel imprisoned in Russia.
  • Delivery: Fogel was released in a U.S.–Russia prisoner swap in February 2025.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%


❌ Promises Not Kept or Still Unfulfilled

1.
End the Russia–Ukraine war within 24 hours
  • Promise: Immediately resolve the conflict in Ukraine after inauguration.
  • Outcome: The war continues with no peace agreement. This remains one of the most high-profile unfulfilled pledges.

2.
End the Gaza conflict or reach peace
  • Promise: Quickly broker peace in Gaza.
  • Outcome: No resolution has been achieved; violence and instability persist.

3.
Bring down inflation starting Day 1 / Lower grocery and energy prices
  • Promise: Slash inflation, reduce grocery prices, cut energy bills.
  • Outcome: Inflation has not fallen sustainably; tariffs have likely driven up consumer prices.

4.
Eliminate taxes on tips and overtime pay
  • Promise: Abolish federal taxes on tips and overtime wages.
  • Outcome: No such tax relief has been implemented.

5.
Cut taxes by more than $7 trillion over 10 years
  • Promise: Massive tax cuts across all income levels.
  • Outcome: Legislation remains stalled in Congress, so far unrealized.

6.
Provide free IVF for all who need it
  • Promise: Mandate government or insurance coverage for all in‑vitro fertilization costs.
  • Outcome: Executive orders merely directed studies or recommendations; no free IVF funding enacted.

7.
Close the U.S. Department of Education
  • Promise: Eliminate the Education Department entirely.
  • Outcome: Cuts have been made to staff and functions, but abolishment would require Congress—no complete elimination has occurred.

8.
Conduct the largest mass deportation operation in U.S. history
  • Promise: Launch the largest-ever deportation initiative day one.
  • Outcome: Actions have increased removals and invoked unusual legal authority, but courts have blocked parts and the scale falls short of historic levels.

9.
Overhaul the Affordable Care Act & lower pharmaceutical costs
  • Promise: Fully repeal or replace Obamacare; slash prescription drug prices.
  • Outcome: No significant repeal or replacement; only executive steps toward transparency without measurable price reductions.


10.
Preserve Social Security and Medicare without cuts
  • Promise: Commit to no cuts in Social Security or Medicare.
  • Outcome: Though publicly defended, proposals include cutting administrative staff and potential benefit reductions; no legal safeguard enacted.

Also…

📊
Who Benefits from Trump’s 2025 Tax Cuts?

Income Group​
Share of Total Tax Benefits​
Average Annual Benefit​
% Increase in After-Tax Income​
Top 1%~30-35%~$61,000~3.2%
Top 20% (overall)~60-69%Varies2-3%
Middle 20%~10-15%~$1,500 - $2,900~1.3-1.5%
Lower-Income (<$30K)Small share<$500

Key Takeaways:
  • ✅ The wealthy (top 20%) receive ~2/3 of all benefits.
  • ✅ Top 1% gain ~20x more (in $) than middle-income households.
  • ⚠️ Middle & lower-income earners see modest or small gains.
  • 🔁 No major offsetting benefits like free healthcare or education.

… and finally…

To what degree does a likelihood exist of Trump being guilty of criminal activity, specifically associated with Epstein:

Public Perception (Poll Data)

Economist / YouGov (July 2025):
  • 46% of Americans believe Trump was involved in Epstein crimes.
  • 32% disagree, and 23% are unsure .
  • Disagreement crosses party lines: 80% of Democrats believe involvement; only 11% of Republicans do.

Reuters / Ipsos and Rasmussen:
  • Just 17% of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the Epstein matter .
  • 67–69% believe the government is withholding evidence or documents, fueling suspicions of cover-up .

📈 Estimated Likelihood of Criminal Guilt


Source / Basis​
Estimated Likelihood​
Actual legal evidence or indictments~0-5%

Media and expert analysis (interpreting closeness and behavior)		~10-20%

Public opinion believing Trump involvement		~40-50% (per polls)


How intelligent people still think he’s the best representative of Republican government policy is beyond me.
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Still not understanding how he operates because you are too blinded by your hatred.

The man makes statements that are way out in the ball park and negotiates the best outcome.

It's a tactic, and it works him which means it works for the American people.

Get a clue lib.
 
It’s telling that the chat GDP thing utterly fails to mention securing the border and says “unusual “ legal authority was used when it was not.
Also calls the deportations scale nothing historic when they are nowhere near a point of having that to a point they would call resolved. I guarantee before this is over those numbers will indeed be historic..
Chat GDP is incorrect about not passing the no tax on tips and overtime, it is section 70201 and 70202 in the BB bill which indeed passed..
For everyone who thinks chat GDP is accurate. It is not.
It just proved it to us..
Just saying
 
jdel77 said:
So I asked Chat GPT about this:

✅ Fully kept Trump promises made before 2025 inauguration:

1.
Pardons for January 6 Defendants
  • Promise: Pardon individuals involved in the January 6 Capitol riot.
  • Delivery: Within hours of taking office, Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of over 1,500 people tied to the riot, including prominent figures.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

2.
Withdraw from Paris Climate Agreement
  • Promise: Exit the international climate pact.
  • Delivery: Trump formally withdrew the U.S. from the agreement on Day 1 of his presidency.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

3.
Reimpose and Expand Travel Bans
  • Promise: Reinstate and broaden travel bans targeting certain countries, especially with security concerns.
  • Delivery: Travel restrictions were reimposed and expanded to include countries like Nigeria, Eritrea, and Myanmar.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

4.
Keystone XL & Dakota Access Pipeline Approvals
  • Promise: Reauthorize and expedite controversial energy pipelines.
  • Delivery: Permits were reinstated and construction resumed on both pipelines.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

5.
“America First” Foreign Policy
  • Promise: Withdraw from global institutions and cut foreign aid.
  • Delivery:
    • U.S. withdrew again from the WHO.
    • Major reductions to USAID.
    • Sanctions placed on ICC and defunding of UNRWA.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

6.
Tariffs on Foreign Imports
  • Promise: Impose tariffs on foreign goods to protect American industry.
  • Delivery: New rounds of tariffs applied to Chinese, Mexican, Canadian, and European imports.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%
7.
Tax Cuts and Deregulation
  • Promise: Pass further tax cuts for individuals and businesses.
  • Delivery: The “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” (2025) made earlier Trump-era tax cuts permanent and expanded them.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%

8.
Release of Marc Fogel from Russia
  • Promise: Secure the release of American teacher Marc Fogel imprisoned in Russia.
  • Delivery: Fogel was released in a U.S.–Russia prisoner swap in February 2025.
  • Status: Fulfilled 100%


❌ Promises Not Kept or Still Unfulfilled

1.
End the Russia–Ukraine war within 24 hours
  • Promise: Immediately resolve the conflict in Ukraine after inauguration.
  • Outcome: The war continues with no peace agreement. This remains one of the most high-profile unfulfilled pledges.

2.
End the Gaza conflict or reach peace
  • Promise: Quickly broker peace in Gaza.
  • Outcome: No resolution has been achieved; violence and instability persist.

3.
Bring down inflation starting Day 1 / Lower grocery and energy prices
  • Promise: Slash inflation, reduce grocery prices, cut energy bills.
  • Outcome: Inflation has not fallen sustainably; tariffs have likely driven up consumer prices.

4.
Eliminate taxes on tips and overtime pay
  • Promise: Abolish federal taxes on tips and overtime wages.
  • Outcome: No such tax relief has been implemented.

5.
Cut taxes by more than $7 trillion over 10 years
  • Promise: Massive tax cuts across all income levels.
  • Outcome: Legislation remains stalled in Congress, so far unrealized.

6.
Provide free IVF for all who need it
  • Promise: Mandate government or insurance coverage for all in‑vitro fertilization costs.
  • Outcome: Executive orders merely directed studies or recommendations; no free IVF funding enacted.

7.
Close the U.S. Department of Education
  • Promise: Eliminate the Education Department entirely.
  • Outcome: Cuts have been made to staff and functions, but abolishment would require Congress—no complete elimination has occurred.

8.
Conduct the largest mass deportation operation in U.S. history
  • Promise: Launch the largest-ever deportation initiative day one.
  • Outcome: Actions have increased removals and invoked unusual legal authority, but courts have blocked parts and the scale falls short of historic levels.

9.
Overhaul the Affordable Care Act & lower pharmaceutical costs
  • Promise: Fully repeal or replace Obamacare; slash prescription drug prices.
  • Outcome: No significant repeal or replacement; only executive steps toward transparency without measurable price reductions.


10.
Preserve Social Security and Medicare without cuts
  • Promise: Commit to no cuts in Social Security or Medicare.
  • Outcome: Though publicly defended, proposals include cutting administrative staff and potential benefit reductions; no legal safeguard enacted.

Also…

📊
Who Benefits from Trump’s 2025 Tax Cuts?

Income Group​
Share of Total Tax Benefits​
Average Annual Benefit​
% Increase in After-Tax Income​
Top 1%~30-35%~$61,000~3.2%
Top 20% (overall)~60-69%Varies2-3%
Middle 20%~10-15%~$1,500 - $2,900~1.3-1.5%
Lower-Income (<$30K)Small share<$500

Key Takeaways:
  • ✅ The wealthy (top 20%) receive ~2/3 of all benefits.
  • ✅ Top 1% gain ~20x more (in $) than middle-income households.
  • ⚠️ Middle & lower-income earners see modest or small gains.
  • 🔁 No major offsetting benefits like free healthcare or education.

… and finally…

To what degree does a likelihood exist of Trump being guilty of criminal activity, specifically associated with Epstein:

Public Perception (Poll Data)

Economist / YouGov (July 2025):
  • 46% of Americans believe Trump was involved in Epstein crimes.
  • 32% disagree, and 23% are unsure .
  • Disagreement crosses party lines: 80% of Democrats believe involvement; only 11% of Republicans do.

Reuters / Ipsos and Rasmussen:
  • Just 17% of Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the Epstein matter .
  • 67–69% believe the government is withholding evidence or documents, fueling suspicions of cover-up .

📈 Estimated Likelihood of Criminal Guilt


Source / Basis​
Estimated Likelihood​
Actual legal evidence or indictments~0-5%

Media and expert analysis (interpreting closeness and behavior)		~10-20%

Public opinion believing Trump involvement		~40-50% (per polls)


How intelligent people still think he’s the best representative of Republican government policy is beyond me.
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These morons don't care about facts. If he OwNz the LiBz that's all they care about. Nice work though.
 
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