How did you develop your vibrato?? What's your favorte?

[Gainzilla]

Then you got the rubber band vibrato. Listen close. Sharp, flat, sharp, flat. Thats not bent note vibrato. Thats going flat/sharp. any asshat can do that in 5 minutes. that takes no skill.

https://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... 94170&q=hi

Ralphies vibrato smokes anything that you have to offer garbageman. Its funny how all you have to show after 40 some odd years of playing is whitebread, color by number renditions of other peoples music....

Hows that timing coming along? 10 years of sitting on your ass and playing every day hasnt done dick for ya..

 

[Slaytallica]

Also Pay attention to what Carl said about Trower and west, then disregard he posted after. He doesnt know vibrato...

 

[Gainzilla]

Also Pay attention to what Carl said about Trower and west, then disregard he posted after. He doesnt know vibrato...

Yup, thats real funny, but check any of my clips. I put my playing where my mouth is.

Machine Gun-
https://soundclick.com/share?songid=5971884

Youre a legend in your mind and yours alone, handle it. Who needs to check your clips? Listen to anyone to hear the same rehashed noodling,the same aborted timing, the same whitebread color by number covers, cmon dude, get over yourself...

Fish for more compliments and attention, no one cares and never will

 

[Gainzilla]

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Let me translate, BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... Its the same old story with you, all the time, If you dont like it, its shit. You say the same thing about Alternate picking or anything on the faster side because you cant do it, nothing but excuses...

Of course the guy's you mentioned have great vibrato but so do guys like YJM, Sykes, Demartini, Morse, Lynch, VH, wylde etc, All of them on the wide side....

You aint a legend and never will be, stop acting like youre an authority and just leave it what it is; Personal preference...

 

[Greazygeo]

I personally can barely stand Malmsteen's vibrato, it's just so over the top and exaggerated on every single note. Same goes for Zakk Wylde too to me. However, I love Andy Timmons vibrato so I would say listen to him. Or then someone like Trower as previously mentioned. Also try other vibrato styles, like the old blues take the thumb off of the neck style a la Clapton.

The old blues guys got it right. BB King, Freddie King, Albert King, Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, etc.

The next generation picked it up from those guys...Jimi, Trower, Beck, Page, Clapton, West, Schenker, etc

All the above are masters of what's called bent-note vibrato. Thats bending the note, then applying vibrato to it. These guys never repeated themselves cause the vibrato came natual and it was generated by the FEEL they were trying to convey. There is an old Clapton/ Cream interview where he demonstrates it and says it takes a long time to learn.


Then you got the exaggerated back and forth rubber band vibrato. Zakk, and most other metal guys.
Their vibrato technique is simple play something slick, then throw a warped-record vibrato tacked on the last note.
This , IMO isnt even a controlled vibrato, rather a technique used by guys with no blues backround. They all hear and immitate each other, and the end result is their vibratos sound the same.

You develope your vibrato from what you listen too.
You listen to some blues cats, SRV, Trower, you're going to develope a vibrato that is applied acording to the feel of the music and what you're trying to convey.

If you listen to a bunch of metal caks...well, you're going to sound like the generic vibrato that is used in that type music.

So you are basically saying that only blues has feeling in the playing? I can't believe that people like that old blues stuff.....dreadful.

All types of vibrato have their place....its up to the player to use it tastefully.

 

[Greazygeo]

I thought I was giving an opinion. that's ok, isnt it?

there's good and bad in all styles of music. Your post comes off slamming metal players imo.....

 

[Gainzilla]

I thought I was giving an opinion. that's ok, isnt it?

there's good and bad in all styles of music. Your post comes off slamming metal players imo.....

The guy slams anything and everything thats outside of what he likes and after that, posts his clips saying "this is how its done" give me a friggin break...

 

[Digital Jams]

Not for nothing Carl but on that Rig-Talk jam that you play on you have a pretty wide vibrato happening just after the beginning, sounds pretty good too.

So you do use a wide 80s one now and then.

 

[Meathead]

If you listen to guys like Sykes and Schon, they don't vibrato and shake every note...sometimes laying off is called for.
I always dug Todd Rundgren's vibrato...like on Bat Out Of Hell...he was doing that nice feeling wide vibrato long ago, before the 80's guys. Same with Wagner from the mid 70's Alice Cooper stuff.

Guys like Zakk and such with the wide vibrato on every holding note really gets tired.

 

[King Crimson]

I can't believe that people like that old blues stuff.....dreadful.

Dude, re-read this statement you made! You really are confused; I mean very ?

 

[King Crimson]

I thought I was giving an opinion. that's ok, isnt it?

there's good and bad in all styles of music. Your post comes off slamming metal players imo.....

Let me guess, you only play originals, correct?

 

[Greazygeo]

Let me guess, you only play originals, correct?

Let me guess....you only play covers? What does that have to do with anything? You would be incorrect in your guess.

I can't believe that people like that old blues stuff.....dreadful.

Dude, re-read this statement you made! You really are confused; I mean very ?

I'm not confused at all.....don't like blues sorry. I like music alittle more harmoncally adventurous. Is that ok with you?

 

[King Crimson]

I'm not confused at all.....don't like blues sorry. I like music alittle more harmoncally adventurous. Is that ok with you?

Another word, in a nutshell, you know nothing about musical harmony...

And it's OK that you are comfortable with your lack of harmonic musical ignorance. Like Al Franken, you're special, and that's OK.

Curious - Can you (without google) lay out the harmonic structure of the circle of 5ths and explain its importance to the study of harmony and musical composition?

 

[thegame]

[And it's OK that you are comfortable with your lack of harmonic musical ignorance. Like Al Franken, you're special, and that's OK.

You just said he's lacking in ignorance pertaining to the harmonic structure of music. Therefore he does have knowledge of music harmony, if he's not ignorant of it. Now who's the retard ?

 

[Greazygeo]

I'm not confused at all.....don't like blues sorry. I like music alittle more harmoncally adventurous. Is that ok with you?

Another word, in a nutshell, you know nothing about musical harmony...

And it's OK that you are comfortable with your lack of harmonic musical ignorance. Like Al Franken, you're special, and that's OK.

Curious - Can you (without google) lay out the harmonic structure of the circle of 5ths and explain its importance to the study of harmony and musical composition?

Dont even go there dude......you seem to know so much about me already, explain to me my knowledge that you seem to know that I don't know.....

You may use Google if you like....

 

[wc8485]

Wow... MI grads know nothing of that sort eh?

 

[King Crimson]

[And it's OK that you are comfortable with your lack of harmonic musical ignorance. Like Al Franken, you're special, and that's OK.

You just said he's lacking in ignorance pertaining to the harmonic structure of music. Therefore he does have knowledge of music harmony, if he's not ignorant of it. Now who's the retard ?

Put down the crack pipe.

Look up "comfortable" in the dictionary then complete the sentence, Sparky.

 

[King Crimson]

Dont even go there dude...

I already did dood. Your ignorance of musical harmony precludes you.

I can't believe that people like that old blues stuff.....dreadful.

 

[Greazygeo]

Dont even go there dude...

I already did dood. Your ignorance of musical harmony precludes you.

I can't believe that people like that old blues stuff.....dreadful.

You are obviously much more "schooled" in all things music. I bow down in your presence of greatness.....

Please explain to me your "qualifications" to prejudge me and my musical ignorance.

 

[Greazygeo]

Wow... MI grads know nothing of that sort eh?

Apparently I am on the whipping post because I don't like blues.....wow.