I finally get it

[axemeaquestion]

Thanks man..I appreciate it.

no mods...just careful tube selection.

I've got to admit, I find that to be rather humorous.

 

[kasperjensen]

Wow... I never knew that you could simply ignore posts from users by setting them as "foes". This thread is already looking better!

Whoever invented that feature... Thank You!

 

[Zachman]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Don't feed the trolls...

For the troll... nom nom nom!

 

[JonnyXXXMac]

Thanks man..I appreciate it.

no mods...just careful tube selection.

I've got to admit, I find that to be rather humorous.

You still haven't reeled me in, "bro." You only have a few more things in my sig to pick at...make em good.

 

[Zachman]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So many false statements in this reply. I don't even have the energy to argue.

Agreed...

I wonder why they seem to feel the need... It comes across, in my view, like Short guy syndrome--

Some guys may gravitate to one or two sounds and that's fine, but to dismiss the fact that some guys work across multiple genres of musical styles and recognize the value of production choices re: their gear selection and how it's utilized differently-- (to support what the song requires), as opposed to their own personal sound or tone preference, is rather short-sighted, imo.

You certainly won't "sound" better (speaking of tone)-- even if you play well, when using the wrong tools, or inappropriately dialing in sonic colors for the tone goals-- and that is not meant to imply that gear is a supplement for practice. They are separate considerations, as are: Writing, Playing, Engineering, Producing, and Performing. ALL separate facets of Show Business and the Entertainment Industry. To simply dismiss the role gear plays, by stating, "Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into" seems rather one dimensional, and trollish and/or just plain ignorant.

I listen to and play and/or attempt to play various styles from Classical, Jazz standards, Fusion Jazz, Heavy Metal, Classic Rock, Funk, R&B, to the Blues and Pop... and to only have one or 2 sounds would bore the hell out of me, and have me spending way more time searching for paying gigs than landing them.

My $.02

I've heard a bunch of really bad attempts at playing and tone, by guys trying to make a case for plugging straight in, while listening to their lame tone, amplifying their poor playing. A lot like "Pure crap". Not all mind you, but this purist/elitist notion to the exclusion of all other approaches at making music is "Pure crap", imo

Many of the purist types are rather surprised when they find out that I can, with the push of a volume pedal, eliminate the wet sides of the rig all together. This gives me 4 different mono guitar amp rigs that I can choose from, and depending on my mood-- they can be vintage amps or modern or a blend (With or without pedals in front of the selected amps), effectively plugging straight in.

My rig-- is so far from the norm-- that it's rather liberating-- and yes, I realize this, and have for a long time.

Using the example of, "_____ sounds like ______ no matter what gear they play through" is entirely useless and redundant, and does nothing to address tone, rather-- technique/style.

The hands play a HUGE part... because the point of it ALL is-- Making Music, and in our case (MOSTLY) we do that with our hands playing our GEAR.

At the end of the day-- You can either drive like Mario Andretti, or you can't. If you can, you'll get way more performance out of a Ferrari, than the average Joe. Just because someone can afford an Enzo, doesn't mean they can drive like Mario-- But even Mario can't get the same lap times with a mini van, as he can w/ his race car-- and the tone of the exhaust notes vary between the Ferrari and the mini van, even with different guys stepping on the accelerator and reving the motor.

It's BOTH gear and player which make up the total package.

A GREAT song will still "Sound like" a GREAT song, with lame tone, orchestration, etc... BUT being a GREAT song doesn't mean that the performance of that particular song is a GOOD one. Could be- BAD "Tone" or production.

Now that we KNOW that tone is neither in the gear nor the fingers, rather in the brain-- and it gets there via the ears, transmitted through the air, via the gear (in our case-- guitar equipment) being manipulated by (in our case) -- our hands/fingers--- CLEARLY it ALL counts.

I guess I look at it like this:

Tone isn't in the fingers... It starts there, but it doesn't End there.

Of course I sound like me, no matter what... That is sort of a DUH... as I see it. However, the "Me" I sound like when playing an Ovation acoustic, vs a Gibson J200 has different "Tone", same as the "Me" through a Super Reverb vs a Screaming Marshall Super Lead..... -- Different "Tone"

Sounds like= Potential for mis-communication, because it could mean--Tonally OR Stylistically, OR Both and on a Gear Forum... Why one would think to address concepts like Tone being in the fingers, as though they should not be treated as though it's from a gear perspective, seems curious.

How well/proficiently we play our instruments= Technique, and Technique IS in the hands.

Tone= The Sonic "Colors" and "Textures" of the notes we choose to play

Style and Technique= How we choose to tell the "Story"/ play what we do/Attitude/Soul. (Played on an unplugged electric guitar, the picture would be in Black & White, not "Color")...

The "Picture/Story"= The Song/The Piece/The Music

 

[rupe]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So many false statements in this reply. I don't even have the energy to argue.

Agreed...

I wonder why they seem to feel the need... It comes across, in my view, like Short guy syndrome--

Some guys may gravitate to one or two sounds and that's fine, but to dismiss the fact that some guys work across multiple genres of musical styles and recognize the value of production choices re: their gear selection and how it's utilized differently-- (to support what the song requires), as opposed to their own personal sound or tone preference, is rather short-sighted, imo.

You certainly won't "sound" better (speaking of tone)-- even if you play well, when using the wrong tools, or inappropriately dialing in sonic colors for the tone goals-- and that is not meant to imply that gear is a supplement for practice. They are separate considerations, as are: Writing, Playing, Engineering, Producing, and Performing. ALL separate facets of Show Business and the Entertainment Industry. To simply dismiss the role gear plays, by stating, "Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into" seems rather one dimensional, and trollish and/or just plain ignorant.

I listen to and play and/or attempt to play various styles from Classical, Jazz standards, Fusion Jazz, Heavy Metal, Classic Rock, Funk, R&B, to the Blues and Pop... and to only have one or 2 sounds would bore the hell out of me, and have me spending way more time searching for paying gigs than landing them.

My $.02

I've heard a bunch of really bad attempts at playing and tone, by guys trying to make a case for plugging straight in, while listening to their lame tone, amplifying their poor playing. A lot like "Pure crap". Not all mind you, but this purist/elitist notion to the exclusion of all other approaches at making music is "Pure crap", imo

Many of the purist types are rather surprised when they find out that I can, with the push of a volume pedal, eliminate the wet sides of the rig all together. This gives me 4 different mono guitar amp rigs that I can choose from, and depending on my mood-- they can be vintage amps or modern or a blend (With or without pedals in front of the selected amps), effectively plugging straight in.

My rig-- is so far from the norm-- that it's rather liberating-- and yes, I realize this, and have for a long time.

Using the example of, "_____ sounds like ______ no matter what gear they play through" is entirely useless and redundant, and does nothing to address tone, rather-- technique/style.

The hands play a HUGE part... because the point of it ALL is-- Making Music, and in our case (MOSTLY) we do that with our hands playing our GEAR.

At the end of the day-- You can either drive like Mario Andretti, or you can't. If you can, you'll get way more performance out of a Ferrari, than the average Joe. Just because someone can afford an Enzo, doesn't mean they can drive like Mario-- But even Mario can't get the same lap times with a mini van, as he can w/ his race car-- and the tone of the exhaust notes vary between the Ferrari and the mini van, even with different guys stepping on the accelerator and reving the motor.

It's BOTH gear and player which make up the total package.

A GREAT song will still "Sound like" a GREAT song, with lame tone, orchestration, etc... BUT being a GREAT song doesn't mean that the performance of that particular song is a GOOD one. Could be- BAD "Tone" or production.

Now that we KNOW that tone is neither in the gear nor the fingers, rather in the brain-- and it gets there via the ears, transmitted through the air, via the gear (in our case-- guitar equipment) being manipulated by (in our case) -- our hands/fingers--- CLEARLY it ALL counts.

I guess I look at it like this:

Tone isn't in the fingers... It starts there, but it doesn't End there.

Of course I sound like me, no matter what... That is sort of a DUH... as I see it. However, the "Me" I sound like when playing an Ovation acoustic, vs a Gibson J200 has different "Tone", same as the "Me" through a Super Reverb vs a Screaming Marshall Super Lead..... -- Different "Tone"

Sounds like= Potential for mis-communication, because it could mean--Tonally OR Stylistically, OR Both and on a Gear Forum... Why one would think to address concepts like Tone being in the fingers, as though they should not be treated as though it's from a gear perspective, seems curious.

How well/proficiently we play our instruments= Technique, and Technique IS in the hands.

Tone= The Sonic "Colors" and "Textures" of the notes we choose to play

Style and Technique= How we choose to tell the "Story"/ play what we do/Attitude/Soul. (Played on an unplugged electric guitar, the picture would be in Black & White, not "Color")...

The "Picture/Story"= The Song/The Piece/The Music

Post of the year so far...well stated and I agree 100%

 

[axemeaquestion]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So many false statements in this reply. I don't even have the energy to argue.

Agreed...

I wonder why they seem to feel the need... It comes across, in my view, like Short guy syndrome--

Some guys may gravitate to one or two sounds and that's fine, but to dismiss the fact that some guys work across multiple genres of musical styles and recognize the value of production choices re: their gear selection and how it's utilized differently-- (to support what the song requires), as opposed to their own personal sound or tone preference, is rather short-sighted, imo.

You certainly won't "sound" better (speaking of tone)-- even if you play well, when using the wrong tools, or inappropriately dialing in sonic colors for the tone goals-- and that is not meant to imply that gear is a supplement for practice. They are separate considerations, as are: Writing, Playing, Engineering, Producing, and Performing. ALL separate facets of Show Business and the Entertainment Industry. To simply dismiss the role gear plays, by stating, "Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into" seems rather one dimensional, and trollish and/or just plain ignorant.

I listen to and play and/or attempt to play various styles from Classical, Jazz standards, Fusion Jazz, Heavy Metal, Classic Rock, Funk, R&B, to the Blues and Pop... and to only have one or 2 sounds would bore the hell out of me, and have me spending way more time searching for paying gigs than landing them.

My $.02

I've heard a bunch of really bad attempts at playing and tone, by guys trying to make a case for plugging straight in, while listening to their lame tone, amplifying their poor playing. A lot like "Pure crap". Not all mind you, but this purist/elitist notion to the exclusion of all other approaches at making music is "Pure crap", imo

Many of the purist types are rather surprised when they find out that I can, with the push of a volume pedal, eliminate the wet sides of the rig all together. This gives me 4 different mono guitar amp rigs that I can choose from, and depending on my mood-- they can be vintage amps or modern or a blend (With or without pedals in front of the selected amps), effectively plugging straight in.

My rig-- is so far from the norm-- that it's rather liberating-- and yes, I realize this, and have for a long time.

Using the example of, "_____ sounds like ______ no matter what gear they play through" is entirely useless and redundant, and does nothing to address tone, rather-- technique/style.

The hands play a HUGE part... because the point of it ALL is-- Making Music, and in our case (MOSTLY) we do that with our hands playing our GEAR.

At the end of the day-- You can either drive like Mario Andretti, or you can't. If you can, you'll get way more performance out of a Ferrari, than the average Joe. Just because someone can afford an Enzo, doesn't mean they can drive like Mario-- But even Mario can't get the same lap times with a mini van, as he can w/ his race car-- and the tone of the exhaust notes vary between the Ferrari and the mini van, even with different guys stepping on the accelerator and reving the motor.

It's BOTH gear and player which make up the total package.

A GREAT song will still "Sound like" a GREAT song, with lame tone, orchestration, etc... BUT being a GREAT song doesn't mean that the performance of that particular song is a GOOD one. Could be- BAD "Tone" or production.

Now that we KNOW that tone is neither in the gear nor the fingers, rather in the brain-- and it gets there via the ears, transmitted through the air, via the gear (in our case-- guitar equipment) being manipulated by (in our case) -- our hands/fingers--- CLEARLY it ALL counts.

I guess I look at it like this:

Tone isn't in the fingers... It starts there, but it doesn't End there.

Of course I sound like me, no matter what... That is sort of a DUH... as I see it. However, the "Me" I sound like when playing an Ovation acoustic, vs a Gibson J200 has different "Tone", same as the "Me" through a Super Reverb vs a Screaming Marshall Super Lead..... -- Different "Tone"

Sounds like= Potential for mis-communication, because it could mean--Tonally OR Stylistically, OR Both and on a Gear Forum... Why one would think to address concepts like Tone being in the fingers, as though they should not be treated as though it's from a gear perspective, seems curious.

How well/proficiently we play our instruments= Technique, and Technique IS in the hands.

Tone= The Sonic "Colors" and "Textures" of the notes we choose to play

Style and Technique= How we choose to tell the "Story"/ play what we do/Attitude/Soul. (Played on an unplugged electric guitar, the picture would be in Black & White, not "Color")...

The "Picture/Story"= The Song/The Piece/The Music

Post of the year so far...well stated and I agree 100%

Wow.

I was the inspiration for the post of the year, Rupert.

Thanks, man.

 

[Ventura]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So many false statements in this reply. I don't even have the energy to argue.

Agreed...

I wonder why they seem to feel the need... It comes across, in my view, like Short guy syndrome--

Some guys may gravitate to one or two sounds and that's fine, but to dismiss the fact that some guys work across multiple genres of musical styles and recognize the value of production choices re: their gear selection and how it's utilized differently-- (to support what the song requires), as opposed to their own personal sound or tone preference, is rather short-sighted, imo.

You certainly won't "sound" better (speaking of tone)-- even if you play well, when using the wrong tools, or inappropriately dialing in sonic colors for the tone goals-- and that is not meant to imply that gear is a supplement for practice. They are separate considerations, as are: Writing, Playing, Engineering, Producing, and Performing. ALL separate facets of Show Business and the Entertainment Industry. To simply dismiss the role gear plays, by stating, "Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into" seems rather one dimensional, and trollish and/or just plain ignorant.

I listen to and play and/or attempt to play various styles from Classical, Jazz standards, Fusion Jazz, Heavy Metal, Classic Rock, Funk, R&B, to the Blues and Pop... and to only have one or 2 sounds would bore the hell out of me, and have me spending way more time searching for paying gigs than landing them.

My $.02

I've heard a bunch of really bad attempts at playing and tone, by guys trying to make a case for plugging straight in, while listening to their lame tone, amplifying their poor playing. A lot like "Pure crap". Not all mind you, but this purist/elitist notion to the exclusion of all other approaches at making music is "Pure crap", imo

Many of the purist types are rather surprised when they find out that I can, with the push of a volume pedal, eliminate the wet sides of the rig all together. This gives me 4 different mono guitar amp rigs that I can choose from, and depending on my mood-- they can be vintage amps or modern or a blend (With or without pedals in front of the selected amps), effectively plugging straight in.

My rig-- is so far from the norm-- that it's rather liberating-- and yes, I realize this, and have for a long time.

Using the example of, "_____ sounds like ______ no matter what gear they play through" is entirely useless and redundant, and does nothing to address tone, rather-- technique/style.

The hands play a HUGE part... because the point of it ALL is-- Making Music, and in our case (MOSTLY) we do that with our hands playing our GEAR.

At the end of the day-- You can either drive like Mario Andretti, or you can't. If you can, you'll get way more performance out of a Ferrari, than the average Joe. Just because someone can afford an Enzo, doesn't mean they can drive like Mario-- But even Mario can't get the same lap times with a mini van, as he can w/ his race car-- and the tone of the exhaust notes vary between the Ferrari and the mini van, even with different guys stepping on the accelerator and reving the motor.

It's BOTH gear and player which make up the total package.

A GREAT song will still "Sound like" a GREAT song, with lame tone, orchestration, etc... BUT being a GREAT song doesn't mean that the performance of that particular song is a GOOD one. Could be- BAD "Tone" or production.

Now that we KNOW that tone is neither in the gear nor the fingers, rather in the brain-- and it gets there via the ears, transmitted through the air, via the gear (in our case-- guitar equipment) being manipulated by (in our case) -- our hands/fingers--- CLEARLY it ALL counts.

I guess I look at it like this:

Tone isn't in the fingers... It starts there, but it doesn't End there.

Of course I sound like me, no matter what... That is sort of a DUH... as I see it. However, the "Me" I sound like when playing an Ovation acoustic, vs a Gibson J200 has different "Tone", same as the "Me" through a Super Reverb vs a Screaming Marshall Super Lead..... -- Different "Tone"

Sounds like= Potential for mis-communication, because it could mean--Tonally OR Stylistically, OR Both and on a Gear Forum... Why one would think to address concepts like Tone being in the fingers, as though they should not be treated as though it's from a gear perspective, seems curious.

How well/proficiently we play our instruments= Technique, and Technique IS in the hands.

Tone= The Sonic "Colors" and "Textures" of the notes we choose to play

Style and Technique= How we choose to tell the "Story"/ play what we do/Attitude/Soul. (Played on an unplugged electric guitar, the picture would be in Black & White, not "Color")...

The "Picture/Story"= The Song/The Piece/The Music

Post of the year so far...well stated and I agree 100%

Wow.

I was the inspiration for the post of the year, Rupert.

Thanks, man.

 

[Zachman]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So many false statements in this reply. I don't even have the energy to argue.

Agreed...

I wonder why they seem to feel the need... It comes across, in my view, like Short guy syndrome--

Some guys may gravitate to one or two sounds and that's fine, but to dismiss the fact that some guys work across multiple genres of musical styles and recognize the value of production choices re: their gear selection and how it's utilized differently-- (to support what the song requires), as opposed to their own personal sound or tone preference, is rather short-sighted, imo.

You certainly won't "sound" better (speaking of tone)-- even if you play well, when using the wrong tools, or inappropriately dialing in sonic colors for the tone goals-- and that is not meant to imply that gear is a supplement for practice. They are separate considerations, as are: Writing, Playing, Engineering, Producing, and Performing. ALL separate facets of Show Business and the Entertainment Industry. To simply dismiss the role gear plays, by stating, "Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into" seems rather one dimensional, and trollish and/or just plain ignorant.

I listen to and play and/or attempt to play various styles from Classical, Jazz standards, Fusion Jazz, Heavy Metal, Classic Rock, Funk, R&B, to the Blues and Pop... and to only have one or 2 sounds would bore the hell out of me, and have me spending way more time searching for paying gigs than landing them.

My $.02

I've heard a bunch of really bad attempts at playing and tone, by guys trying to make a case for plugging straight in, while listening to their lame tone, amplifying their poor playing. A lot like "Pure crap". Not all mind you, but this purist/elitist notion to the exclusion of all other approaches at making music is "Pure crap", imo

Many of the purist types are rather surprised when they find out that I can, with the push of a volume pedal, eliminate the wet sides of the rig all together. This gives me 4 different mono guitar amp rigs that I can choose from, and depending on my mood-- they can be vintage amps or modern or a blend (With or without pedals in front of the selected amps), effectively plugging straight in.

My rig-- is so far from the norm-- that it's rather liberating-- and yes, I realize this, and have for a long time.

Using the example of, "_____ sounds like ______ no matter what gear they play through" is entirely useless and redundant, and does nothing to address tone, rather-- technique/style.

The hands play a HUGE part... because the point of it ALL is-- Making Music, and in our case (MOSTLY) we do that with our hands playing our GEAR.

At the end of the day-- You can either drive like Mario Andretti, or you can't. If you can, you'll get way more performance out of a Ferrari, than the average Joe. Just because someone can afford an Enzo, doesn't mean they can drive like Mario-- But even Mario can't get the same lap times with a mini van, as he can w/ his race car-- and the tone of the exhaust notes vary between the Ferrari and the mini van, even with different guys stepping on the accelerator and reving the motor.

It's BOTH gear and player which make up the total package.

A GREAT song will still "Sound like" a GREAT song, with lame tone, orchestration, etc... BUT being a GREAT song doesn't mean that the performance of that particular song is a GOOD one. Could be- BAD "Tone" or production.

Now that we KNOW that tone is neither in the gear nor the fingers, rather in the brain-- and it gets there via the ears, transmitted through the air, via the gear (in our case-- guitar equipment) being manipulated by (in our case) -- our hands/fingers--- CLEARLY it ALL counts.

I guess I look at it like this:

Tone isn't in the fingers... It starts there, but it doesn't End there.

Of course I sound like me, no matter what... That is sort of a DUH... as I see it. However, the "Me" I sound like when playing an Ovation acoustic, vs a Gibson J200 has different "Tone", same as the "Me" through a Super Reverb vs a Screaming Marshall Super Lead..... -- Different "Tone"

Sounds like= Potential for mis-communication, because it could mean--Tonally OR Stylistically, OR Both and on a Gear Forum... Why one would think to address concepts like Tone being in the fingers, as though they should not be treated as though it's from a gear perspective, seems curious.

How well/proficiently we play our instruments= Technique, and Technique IS in the hands.

Tone= The Sonic "Colors" and "Textures" of the notes we choose to play

Style and Technique= How we choose to tell the "Story"/ play what we do/Attitude/Soul. (Played on an unplugged electric guitar, the picture would be in Black & White, not "Color")...

The "Picture/Story"= The Song/The Piece/The Music

Post of the year so far...well stated and I agree 100%

Wow.

I was the inspiration for the post of the year, Rupert.

Thanks, man.

You give yourself too much credit, yet again.

Most of that was copy/pasted from another post of mine, at another forum while discussing a similar troll's elitist douche bag post... another no class hack, such as yourself, with misguided views and ideas.

Like you, they were reaching out for attention by making provocative and inflammatory statements, and missing the mark w/ their narcissism, and elitism, by sport trolling-- only to show the world the depth of their ignorance and loneliness.

Sort of makes you a bit less than 2nd class troll-- who sports Short guy syndrome, as I see it.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Brother Zachman, if you believe my views and beliefs are misguided and yours aren't, who's the elitist in the equation?

I'm only too pleased to listen to someone else's opinion on a given subject.

 

[Rogue]

You give yourself too much credit, yet again.

Most of that was copy/pasted from another post of mine, at another forum while discussing a similar troll's elitist douche bag post... another no class hack, such as yourself, with misguided views and ideas.

Like you, they were reaching out for attention by making provocative and inflammatory statements, and missing the mark w/ their narcissism, and elitism, by sport trolling-- only to show the world the depth of their ignorance and loneliness.

Sort of makes you a bit less than 2nd class troll-- who sports Short guy syndrome, as I see it.

It is much easier to just call him a troll and be done with it. If he responds, tell him to "shut up, troll".

Much more than that just gets him excited.

 

[axemeaquestion]

You give yourself too much credit, yet again.

Most of that was copy/pasted from another post of mine, at another forum while discussing a similar troll's elitist douche bag post... another no class hack, such as yourself, with misguided views and ideas.

Like you, they were reaching out for attention by making provocative and inflammatory statements, and missing the mark w/ their narcissism, and elitism, by sport trolling-- only to show the world the depth of their ignorance and loneliness.

Sort of makes you a bit less than 2nd class troll-- who sports Short guy syndrome, as I see it.

It is much easier to just call him a troll and be done with it. If he responds, tell him to "shut up, troll".

Much more than that just gets him excited.

Oh, hey, Rogie. It's not polite to go around telling posters to shut up.

I'm jes sayin'.

 

[glassjaw7]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

Axe, my rig is quite minimal and not tone sucking at all. Guitar, cable, a couple pedals, into my amp.
And yes the type of wood would still make a difference even if you were playing through a monster rig with eq/compression and time based effects. Every part of the signal chain affects the tone in some way, be it big or small. I actually agree with some of your logic, but to argue the effectiveness of one's rig based on its size is ridiculous. If a one-channel amp is all you need to enjoy playing your guitar, well then that's great. If you enjoy using lots of stomps and it makes you happy and inspires then do it. If you just want a Variax plugged straight into a modeler, FOH, or an interface then do it and just create music. Why does it matter? To say "get some V-picks or a Tonestyler" but not consider the alternative is just stupid. Why should someone explore the tonal possibilities of those pieces of gear, but not employ the same idea with a large rack setup or a multiple amp/effects setup? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IF IT MAKES THEM HAPPY WITH THEIR TONE?

I've had the same two amps for many years; my Carvin head for 12+ years and my rectifier for 6 or so. They are useful tools for me to create, but I still would like to add more gear to my collection. Arguing that a minimalist setup is better than flipping or whoring lots of gear is just as arrogant as someone who constantly flips gear or tone-searches and states that that's the right way. I know guys that like gear more than actually writing music or playing gigs and that's fine if it's what they enjoy. Just play your gear and be happy, or search for the gear that will make you create music or whatever it is you enjoy doing musically.

This isn't some long-winded attempt to try and tell you off and shove my opinion in your face. I'm just stating that by you negating and disregarding the opinions or actions of one type of player, but then in the same breath saying "you should do this or that" you are coming off as just as much of a douche as the guy you're directing your comments at.

 

[Zachman]

Brother Zachman, if you believe my views and beliefs are misguided and yours aren't, who's the elitist in the equation?

You

 

[Rogue]

Oh, hey, Rogie. It's not polite to go around telling posters to shut up.

I'm jes sayin'.

Shut up, troll.

 

[Zachman]

Oh, hey, Rogie. It's not polite to go around telling posters to shut up.

I'm jes sayin'.

Shut up, troll.

 

[srinivassa]

According to my profile, this is my most successful thread. I thought I'd go ahead and bump it, so those that don't know me too well can see what great work I do. See if you can find my posts! I can't say that I've read the whole thing yet, but I am content to punish the board for ignoring me. ...and for paying any attention to axemeaquestion. Did he finally get banned or what? 966 posts. Sad.

 

[bravedude2]