I finally get it

[axemeaquestion]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

 

[kasperjensen]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

 

[axemeaquestion]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

 

[Motorpud]

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

Yeah, v-picks will change your tone....into scratchy, chirpy dog shit

 

[axemeaquestion]

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

Yeah, v-picks will change your tone....into scratchy, chirpy dog shit

I'm aware of the chirp issue but haven't noticed it myself.

Use a V-pick properly and you won't need your fancy $400 overdrive pedal.

 

[rsm]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

 

[Dr. Swamp]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So many false statements in this reply. I don't even have the energy to argue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

 

[rsm]

Can someone demonstrate how I can get delays, especially reverse delay, echo, reverb (without a special room), pitch shifting, and a few other effects with a V-pick? If so, I can sell all this crap I will no longer be needing. Thanks in advance.

Tremolo too. I don't like them on my guitar, but I dig the sound... V-Pick masters, show us how this can be done.

 

[kasperjensen]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

So an old school Blues lead tone can also be used in a Death Metal context?

Last year I was playing with a heavy metal type band, and this year, I am working in a modern pop band and a blues band. I need nice fat tones, searing leads, synth guitar, wah, harmonizers, thin weird sounds, scooped, slide, the list goes on...
You are suggesting I can just turn up with a plank of wood with good PU's, and whatever amp, and wing it from there?

 

[axemeaquestion]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Color is visual. Guitar tone is auditory.

Big difference there.

 

[Zachman]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Don't feed the trolls...

 

[axemeaquestion]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

So an old school Blues lead tone can also be used in a Death Metal context?

Last year I was playing with a heavy metal type band, and this year, I am working in a modern pop band and a blues band. I need nice fat tones, searing leads, synth guitar, wah, harmonizers, thin weird sounds, scooped, slide, the list goes on...
You are suggesting I can just turn up with a plank of wood with good PU's, and whatever amp, and wing it from there?

Hey, every big name git player and producer always says tone is in the hands. David Gilmore would sound like himself playing thru a Paul. You could plug into Satriani's rig but you wouldn't sound like him. You'd sound like you.

I didn't make those rules up. I am merely conveying them to the forum for everyone's benefit. You are free to spend as much time and money as you wish pursuing your sonic goals.

 

[rsm]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Color is visual. Guitar tone is auditory.

Big difference there.

There are but three notes, only three. You may only use those three. The 3 notes are named A, B and C. They are natural, there are no sharps or flats, there is but one octave per note.

Auditory too. If thre are only Clean, Crunch and Lead tones just as limiting.

Ah, music but within limits. Stay inside the box then.

 

[rsm]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Don't feed the trolls...

For the troll... nom nom nom!

 

[axemeaquestion]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Color is visual. Guitar tone is auditory.

Big difference there.

There are but three notes, only three. You may only use those three. The 3 notes are named A, B and C. They are natural, there are no sharps or flats, there is but one octave per note.

Auditory too. If thre are only Clean, Crunch and Lead tones just as limiting.

Ah, music but within limits. Stay inside the box then.

Sounds like you've pretty much got the blues genre covered with those limitations you've set. And a good chunk of metal, too.

 

[rsm]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Color is visual. Guitar tone is auditory.

Big difference there.

There are but three notes, only three. You may only use those three. The 3 notes are named A, B and C. They are natural, there are no sharps or flats, there is but one octave per note.

Auditory too. If thre are only Clean, Crunch and Lead tones just as limiting.

Ah, music but within limits. Stay inside the box then.

Sounds like you've pretty much got the blues genre covered with those limitations you've set. And a good chunk of metal, too.

Way to go. Enjoy the interior of you blues genre covered metal box. One must set one's limits and maintain one's limitations.

 

[billm408]

Hey, every big name git player and producer always says tone is in the hands. David Gilmore would sound like himself playing thru a Paul. You could plug into Satriani's rig but you wouldn't sound like him. You'd sound like you.

Yes because it's a well known fact that Gilmour and Satch are straight to amp plug 'n play guitarists. Must be the V-Picks.
to the OP... a rig is a rig. Amp, rack or modeler. Doesn't matter in this context.

 

[sinfish]

 

[srinivassa]

There are but three colors in the world. You must be happy with those three colors as that is all there are. These three colors do not have any shades or nuance but one per color. Enjoy your world.

...or am I missing something in my analogy?

Well, you know there actually are only three colors. Red, Blue, and Yellow (Primary for Paint) or Red, Green, and Blue (RGB for light). You pretty much just mix those to get everything else.

I really would say Clean, Crunch, and Lead do act like primary colors for guitar tone. Except you don't mix them so much as you get different flavors of them to fit your style.

 

[kasperjensen]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

So an old school Blues lead tone can also be used in a Death Metal context?

Last year I was playing with a heavy metal type band, and this year, I am working in a modern pop band and a blues band. I need nice fat tones, searing leads, synth guitar, wah, harmonizers, thin weird sounds, scooped, slide, the list goes on...
You are suggesting I can just turn up with a plank of wood with good PU's, and whatever amp, and wing it from there?

Hey, every big name git player and producer always says tone is in the hands. David Gilmore would sound like himself playing thru a Paul. You could plug into Satriani's rig but you wouldn't sound like him. You'd sound like you.

I didn't make those rules up. I am merely conveying them to the forum for everyone's benefit. You are free to spend as much time and money as you wish pursuing your sonic goals.

Are you a politician?