I finally get it

[axemeaquestion]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

So an old school Blues lead tone can also be used in a Death Metal context?

Last year I was playing with a heavy metal type band, and this year, I am working in a modern pop band and a blues band. I need nice fat tones, searing leads, synth guitar, wah, harmonizers, thin weird sounds, scooped, slide, the list goes on...
You are suggesting I can just turn up with a plank of wood with good PU's, and whatever amp, and wing it from there?

Hey, every big name git player and producer always says tone is in the hands. David Gilmore would sound like himself playing thru a Paul. You could plug into Satriani's rig but you wouldn't sound like him. You'd sound like you.

I didn't make those rules up. I am merely conveying them to the forum for everyone's benefit. You are free to spend as much time and money as you wish pursuing your sonic goals.

Are you a politician?

Oh, heavens, no. I am merely an individual who believes that others could benefit greatly from my advice...if only they'd listen.

 

[racerevlon]

Go ask TAG... TAG knows tone...

 

[LP Freak]

Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

SRV never had that problem.

 

[JonnyXXXMac]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

So an old school Blues lead tone can also be used in a Death Metal context?

Last year I was playing with a heavy metal type band, and this year, I am working in a modern pop band and a blues band. I need nice fat tones, searing leads, synth guitar, wah, harmonizers, thin weird sounds, scooped, slide, the list goes on...
You are suggesting I can just turn up with a plank of wood with good PU's, and whatever amp, and wing it from there?

Hey, every big name git player and producer always says tone is in the hands. David Gilmore would sound like himself playing thru a Paul. You could plug into Satriani's rig but you wouldn't sound like him. You'd sound like you.

I didn't make those rules up. I am merely conveying them to the forum for everyone's benefit. You are free to spend as much time and money as you wish pursuing your sonic goals.

Are you a politician?

Oh, heavens, no. I am merely an individual who believes that others could benefit greatly from my advice...if only they'd listen.

And I'm an individual who believes you're being a child in arguing for entertainment. I also believe it's unfortunate that no one has seen through that and enabled your "fun". It's also sad..ever seen this?

 

[axemeaquestion]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

Well, things have been a bit slow here of late, glassy. Your statement about wood may have some validity when discussing acoustic gits, but by the time you run your electric thru that massive tone sucking rig of yours, the wood impact will be negligible.

Pickups do make a difference, but again, no need to continually swap out pickups time after time. Pick one and stick with it.

If you want to noticably change your tone, get some V-picks or a Tonestyler.

So you could just buy a pair of PU's that you really like, and put them in whatever guitar is around? It would always sound the same?

Pretty much. Let's put it this way: no one outside of this forum would be able to tell the difference.

You guys are spending all that coinage in your tone quest to impress fellow forumites.

Look kiddo... I know where you are coming from, but it's too extreme.

The extremists are the ones turning over their gear on an annual basis with their pursuit of the perfect tone, which doesn't exist. In that sense, it has much in common with religion.

Let's face it, there are only 3 tones: clean, crunch and lead. How hard is it to come up with a good example of each of those, and then stick with it?

So an old school Blues lead tone can also be used in a Death Metal context?

Last year I was playing with a heavy metal type band, and this year, I am working in a modern pop band and a blues band. I need nice fat tones, searing leads, synth guitar, wah, harmonizers, thin weird sounds, scooped, slide, the list goes on...
You are suggesting I can just turn up with a plank of wood with good PU's, and whatever amp, and wing it from there?

Hey, every big name git player and producer always says tone is in the hands. David Gilmore would sound like himself playing thru a Paul. You could plug into Satriani's rig but you wouldn't sound like him. You'd sound like you.

I didn't make those rules up. I am merely conveying them to the forum for everyone's benefit. You are free to spend as much time and money as you wish pursuing your sonic goals.

Are you a politician?

Oh, heavens, no. I am merely an individual who believes that others could benefit greatly from my advice...if only they'd listen.

And I'm an individual who believes you're being a child in arguing for entertainment. I also believe it's unfortunate that no one has seen through that and enabled your "fun". It's also sad..ever seen this?

No, I haven't. But it's nice of you to make fun of retarded people like that.

No one's been able to see thru my little ruse but you, huh? I've fooled everyone, but you're so clever, you picked it up lickety-split. Eveyone else is stupid. That's essentially what you're saying.

 

[JonnyXXXMac]

I do enjoy making fun of retarded people...makes me feel good about myself. And yes, very stupid..all of them.

 

[kasperjensen]

Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

SRV never had that problem.

SRV actually went through quite a few different amps over his career.
He was obviously searching for something...

 

[Rogue]

I see Heritage Softail's new hero has taken over the thread.

 

[Ventura]

Can someone demonstrate how I can get delays, especially reverse delay, echo, reverb (without a special room), pitch shifting, and a few other effects with a V-pick? If so, I can sell all this crap I will no longer be needing. Thanks in advance.
Tremolo too. I don't like them on my guitar, but I dig the sound... V-Pick masters, show us how this can be done.

Not to be the Devil's Advocate here, but in short....

Very, VERY good acid.

V.

 

[axemeaquestion]

I see Heritage Softail's new hero has taken over the thread.

Rogie, I'd like to be your hero, too, someday. I think that day is getting closer.

 

[axemeaquestion]

I do enjoy making fun of retarded people...makes me feel good about myself. And yes, very stupid..all of them.

Nice job with the X patterns on those cabs, bro. Totally different than the parallel 1's (also called the 11 pattern) that an unenlightened git player would probably have used.

 

[roadifier]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So going by your logic, a Cheap Toy store guitar made out of plastic with metal strings and cheap pickups through a recto will sound no different that a guitar made of Nice wood through a recto?

 

[JonnyXXXMac]

You're obviously more intelligent than I am because I'm not following the sarcasm. I'll say thank you and keep it as a compliment.

^Sarcasm.

 

[Deleted member 10619]

Get to know your troll:

Subject: axemeaquestion

Rank: Troll C+

By reading this troll's posts, you will eventually find out the following:

- It doesn't understand the blues/country, tone woods, racks, gear and lots of pretty common stuff that is usually discussed on this public forum.

- It has a pretty shitty taste regarding band names, guitar players, cartoons, music (in general) and dogs.

Interests: Trolling, calling people "brother", nicknaming other people, disrespecting long time members in this forum, creating pointless controversy, hide, misspell words and loves to beat dead horses.

Favorite topics to discuss: Anything in which he can create confusion, controversy and portray his "opinion" as an absolute in a retarded fashion.

Example:

Random Rig-Talk member: "I love to eat salami."

axemeaquestion: "Brother [insert a childish nickname based on the victim's moniker], your taste regarding animal source foods is that of an inferior being. I suggest you to focus your love on ham, which is by far considered the best source of high quality proteins available in the market today."

(At this point you must simply ignore the troll's post)

You can usually find its majority of posts in the "Off-Topic" section. It constantly lurks the "Rig-Talk" section, ready to start confusion at any given moment.

Also known as: Brother cak, AMAQ, bitch, AH or troll.

Personality: Delusional, arrogant, attention whore and thinks it is smart.

Guitar playing: Unknown. Constantly refers to itself as an "amazing player" with a debut album in the making.

Internet status: Anonymous.

It has a love affair with: Allan Holdsworth

How to bypass this troll: Ignore its posts, use the "foe" button, wait for another guy to feed it or never feed it in the first place.

 

[glpg80]

I just don't understand how having a versatile rig capable of delivering any tone that comes to mind is related to a player's ego. To me, having that versatility is inspiriational and sparks my creativity. Being stuck with one sound is ok, but eventually the inspiration will run dry.

And yes brother axe, the wood that an instrument is crafted from makes a big difference in the tone. The density and type of the wood can vary the instruments weight, brightness (or lack of), resonance and the overall response of the pickups. I think you know that and you're just trying to stir up some shit.

*sigh* that was torture to write and i never want to do it again.

fixed.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Those big racks are overkilling tonesuckers. Nothing but ego inflation. No practical uses. After all, tone is in the fingers, it has nothing to do with the guitar, type of wood the guitar is made from, or what you are plugged into.

Plug straight into your amp and become one with your amp. In a sense, you are an instrument. It's harmonic convergence, man.

So going by your logic, a Cheap Toy store guitar made out of plastic with metal strings and cheap pickups through a recto will sound no different that a guitar made of Nice wood through a recto?

No, you're taking it to an extreme that was not implied by my original post.

 

[axemeaquestion]

You're obviously more intelligent than I am because I'm not following the sarcasm. I'll say thank you and keep it as a compliment.

^Sarcasm.

Don't worry, bro. I won't state that you're retarded.

 

[kasperjensen]

Get to know your troll:

Subject: axemeaquestion

Rank: Troll C+

By reading this troll's posts, you will eventually find out the following:

- It doesn't understand the blues/country, tone woods, racks, gear and lots of pretty common stuff that is usually discussed on this public forum.

- It has a pretty shitty taste regarding band names, guitar players, cartoons, music (in general) and dogs.

Interests: Trolling, calling people "brother", nicknaming other people, disrespecting long time members in this forum, creating pointless controversy, hide, misspell words and loves to beat dead horses.

Favorite topics to discuss: Anything in which he can create confusion, controversy and portray his "opinion" as an absolute in a retarded fashion.

Example:

Random Rig-Talk member: "I love to eat salami."

axemeaquestion: "Brother [insert a childish nickname based on the victim's moniker], your taste regarding animal source foods is that of an inferior being. I suggest you to focus your love on ham, which is by far considered the best source of high quality proteins available in the market today."

(At this point you must simply ignore the troll's post)

You can usually find its majority of posts in the "Off-Topic" section. It constantly lurks the "Rig-Talk" section, ready to start confusion at any given moment.

Also known as: Brother cak, AMAQ, bitch, AH or troll.

Personality: Delusional, arrogant, attention whore and thinks it is smart.

Guitar playing: Unknown. Constantly refers to itself as an "amazing player" with a debut album in the making.

Internet status: Anonymous.

It has a love affair with: Allan Holdsworth

How to bypass this troll: Ignore its posts, use the "foe" button, wait for another guy to feed it or never feed it in the first place.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Get to know your troll:

Subject: axemeaquestion

Rank: Troll C+

By reading this troll's posts, you will eventually find out the following:

- It doesn't understand the blues/country, tone woods, racks, gear and lots of pretty common stuff that is usually discussed on this public forum.

- It has a pretty shitty taste regarding band names, guitar players, cartoons, music (in general) and dogs.

Interests: Trolling, calling people "brother", nicknaming other people, disrespecting long time members in this forum, creating pointless controversy, hide, misspell words and loves to beat dead horses.

Favorite topics to discuss: Anything in which he can create confusion, controversy and portray his "opinion" as an absolute in a retarded fashion.

Example:

Random Rig-Talk member: "I love to eat salami."

axemeaquestion: "Brother [insert a childish nickname based on the victim's moniker], your taste regarding animal source foods is that of an inferior being. I suggest you to focus your love on ham, which is by far considered the best source of high quality proteins available in the market today."

(At this point you must simply ignore the troll's post)

You can usually find its majority of posts in the "Off-Topic" section. It constantly lurks the "Rig-Talk" section, ready to start confusion at any given moment.

Also known as: Brother cak, AMAQ, bitch, AH or troll.

Personality: Delusional, arrogant, attention whore and thinks it is smart.

Guitar playing: Unknown. Constantly refers to itself as an "amazing player" with a debut album in the making.

Internet status: Anonymous.

It has a love affair with: Allan Holdsworth

How to bypass this troll: Ignore its posts, use the "foe" button, wait for another guy to feed it or never feed it in the first place.

I appreciate the time you took to put that together, brother.

I have never referred to myself as an amazing player, merely an advanced intermediate player. My playing is far from unknown, squire. I have posted two clips of my playing.

I'm curious as to why you feel I've created controversy of any type. I've simply stated my opinion about genres of music, certain players, etc.

I've declared all types of tonewood to be essentially equal. If only society would take such an enlightened view of her fellow man...

 

[JonnyXXXMac]

Thanks man..I appreciate it.